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02-04-2024, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by thumper
If CWD was as bad as we’ve been led to believe, there would be no deer east of Highway 22 by now, and the deer west of 22 would be in free-fall. We’re told that there’s no cure, the life expectancy from contracting the disease is only 2 years, and it’s present throughout the environment - unavoidable.
So how come we aren’t seeing emaciated deer falling over in our fields? How come we’re still seeing lots of deer in the eastern parts of the province - even along the major river valleys which we’re told are the biggest entry corridors? (Granted not as many as 10 years ago - but could that be the result of a combination of factors - more hunters, culls and dramatic increases in tags ?) How come we’re still seeing mature mulie bucks - shouldn’t they ALL be dead from CWD?
Here in Canmore, we were inundated with feral rabbits for decades. Even with expensive ‘control’ efforts (costing on average $265 per rabbit ‘removed’), we had thousands of them 2 years ago. Then a rabbit virus swept through town, and we’ve had ZERO rabbits for the past year. If CWD is all it’s touted to be, then why haven’t we seen the same result with deer?
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There is no doubt that tag allocation “culling” kills more deer than CWD. And……Have we found it in a humanoid yet?
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02-04-2024, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by densa44
You all may be correct that the disease has been here forever and is not dangerous to humans.On the other hand https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creutz...3Jakob_disease is a terrible lethal illness, and we don't want humans to get it.
It has been mentioned before that we could all bennefit from more research in some of these areas, it takes both money and students/proffessors interested in the topic.
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No lack of research being done on CWD. The US is far ahead of us on this and has invested more than Canada ever will.
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02-04-2024, 08:58 AM
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Researchers getting rent money always worries me.
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02-04-2024, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Pathfinder76
Researchers getting rent money always worries me.
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Lots of useless ones for sure
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02-06-2024, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Smoky buck
There is a prioun disease similar to CWD that humans can get but it is not the CWD found in ungulates
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Yes and no. There is a largely non contagious human disease CJD. However, over 200 people got vCJD from BSE (mad cow) infected beef. Prion diseases HAVE jumped from ungulates to humans before, so it's not paranoia for researchers to be concerned it could again.
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02-06-2024, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by GuloGal
Yes and no. There is a largely non contagious human disease CJD. However, over 200 people got vCJD from BSE (mad cow) infected beef. Prion diseases HAVE jumped from ungulates to humans before, so it's not paranoia for researchers to be concerned it could again.
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Never said it will never mutate and cross over to humans but the fact of the matter is CWD has not crossed over to humans at present time
My statement is still true
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02-06-2024, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Smoky buck
Never said it will never mutate and cross over to humans but the fact of the matter is CWD has not crossed over to humans at present time
My statement is still true
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Have they ever tested a human who has died with “dementia “ for CWD?
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02-06-2024, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by dgl1948
Have they ever tested a human who has died with “dementia “ for CWD?
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Doubtful. CJD though? Yes
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02-06-2024, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by dgl1948
Have they ever tested a human who has died with “dementia “ for CWD?
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With the level of research and ongoing studies regarding dementia if there was a link to CWD I am pretty confident it would be documented by now
So coming from my wife who works with people with dementia and knows more about the subject. Along with a decent understanding of piron dease in humans this is here response. The only similarity between the two is you will experience symptoms like dementia as you deteriorate but dementia it self effects the brain differently
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02-07-2024, 08:39 AM
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Cwd
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Have they ever tested a human who has died with “dementia “ for CWD?
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Yale University did autopsies on 44 Alzheimer patients.
13% had CJD.
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02-07-2024, 11:45 AM
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True, there are no confirmed cases of CWD transferring to humans.
But lets not stick our heads in the sand.
If CWD becomes transmittable to humans,
it would make the Covid scare seem like a stubbed toe.
CWD becoming transmittable to humans is a nightmare scenario.
"We" are completely unprepared to deal with the consequences as CWD is not found just in Unguates, but now it is in the water, soil and plants.
Eating a slice of bread could lead to a horrible brain wasting disease.
"We" must be very vigilant with CWD for the sake of society.
Trophy bucks are the least of the concerns.
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02-07-2024, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by walking buffalo
True, there are no confirmed cases of CWD transferring to humans.
But lets not stick our heads in the sand.
If CWD becomes transmittable to humans,
it would make the Covid scare seem like a stubbed toe.
CWD becoming transmittable to humans is a nightmare scenario.
"We" are completely unprepared to deal with the consequences as CWD is not found just in Unguates, but now it is in the water, soil and plants.
Eating a slice of bread could lead to a horrible brain wasting disease.
"We" must be very vigilant with CWD for the sake of society.
Trophy bucks are the least of the concerns.
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Brain wasting disease? It’s already in full force here, just look at all the voters for NDP and Libtards!
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