Archery Mule Deer Draw for 2013 Season?

[eggo]

5 years to get a draw in a zone for rifle hunter. Bow hunter gets a tag every year can hunt 40 days a year that's 200 days even a poor to average bow hunter is killing a deer before the average rifle hunters even gets a chance. Not bashing bow hunters just even it out one weapon should not have more opportunities than the other.

[The Bit Runner.]

Originally Posted by eggo

5 years to get a draw in a zone for rifle hunter. Bow hunter gets a tag every year can hunt 40 days a year that's 200 days even a poor to average bow hunter is killing a deer before the average rifle hunters even gets a chance. Not bashing bow hunters just even it out one weapon should not have more opportunities than the other.

You are one funny dude!!!!!

[Dan Boone]

Originally Posted by eggo

5 years to get a draw in a zone for rifle hunter. Bow hunter gets a tag every year can hunt 40 days a year that's 200 days even a poor to average bow hunter is killing a deer before the average rifle hunters even gets a chance. Not bashing bow hunters just even it out one weapon should not have more opportunities than the other.

Very good point!

[The Bit Runner.]

Originally Posted by Dan Boone

Very good point!

What point is that exactly, You two are a real pair a cards,but each to there own. Nothing stopping either one of you from picking up a bow.

[Dan Boone]

I own 3 bows, a Mathews lx, a pse g-force and a Fred bear recurve from the 60s or 70s.

I have harvested a caribou, 4 moose, countless grouse, ptarmigan and rabbits.

Believe me my bows have been in my hand and will continue to be there.

By has stated, 200+ days in 5 years compared to 30 for most of the population.

Where is the fairness? Explain

[Zuludog]

Originally Posted by Dan Boone

I own 3 bows, a Mathews lx, a pse g-force and a Fred bear recurve from the 60s or 70s.

I have harvested a caribou, 4 moose, countless grouse, ptarmigan and rabbits.

Believe me my bows have been in my hand and will continue to be there.

By has stated, 200+ days in 5 years compared to 30 for most of the population.

Where is the fairness? Explain

So that's the logic you're going with??
I'm pretty sure every zone isn't a five year wait for rifle hunters, considering there ARE zones with general Mulie tags right now. Besides anyone could be part of the "oh so priveleged" bow hunter group anytime they choose.

[eggo]

Originally Posted by Zuludog

So that's the logic you're going with??
I'm pretty sure every zone isn't a five year wait for rifle hunters, considering there ARE zones with general Mulie tags right now. Besides anyone could be part of the "oh so priveleged" bow hunter group anytime they choose.

Like I said not bashing bow hunters and yes it does take 4 to 5 years in some zones. Why should I be penalized because I don't bow hunt.

[slough shark]

This whole thing imho is a silly excuse to eliminate the a lot of the bow season for a lot of guys. With this 15% of the harvest being taken with a bow I would love to see some of those numbers. 1- what percentage of these were non-residents guided (they are generally only shooting bucks and larger ones at that) 2-what percentage of these 15% were already draws? just my perception but it seems to me many of the deer that are taken with a bow are does THAT ARE BEING TAGGED WITH THE DRAW TAG
I hunt with a number of guys in one of the zones mentioned and have been far more successful on numbers and size of deer taken with the bow I have taken primarily my doe draws over the years and a decent 4x4 whitetail and a forkhorn buck when I was 19 I believe, those are the biggest bow kills in the group for antlers... (we wait for larger ones but it either hasn't worked out or we haven't had the opportunity) don't feel sorry for us we do pretty good with the rifle I have also never seen anyone other than a guide take out a buck...
Just saying all that you're going to take away by doing this is taking away the license revenue of a number of guys just hoping for the opportunity at the big one (rarely happens) If you want to take away the number of bow kills on large bucks make it a draw for NR hunters or eliminate the licenses completely or do something kinda like sheep hunting, register a bowkill and take a year off for the guys that pound them every year (although doing that would just make people jealous when instead of chasing mules they turn their attention to some poor animal of another species that would be in a lot of trouble as these guys are successful for a reason).

[elkmakemecrazy]

Originally Posted by Dan Boone

I own 3 bows, a Mathews lx, a pse g-force and a Fred bear recurve from the 60s or 70s.

I have harvested a caribou, 4 moose, countless grouse, ptarmigan and rabbits.

Believe me my bows have been in my hand and will continue to be there.

By has stated, 200+ days in 5 years compared to 30 for most of the population.

Where is the fairness? Explain

The fairness is in the fact that every hunter has the opportunity to hunt those 200+ days. If they choose not to use this opportunity so be it but don't take it away from the hunters that do based on fairness or equality. This type of attitude drives me nuts.

If the numbers and data support bowhunting going on a draw then so be it but I agree with some on here lets see some concrete information before we start taking opportunities away.

[Lefty-Canuck]

Originally Posted by elkmakemecrazy

The fairness is in the fact that every hunter has the opportunity to hunt those 200+ days. If they choose not to use this opportunity so be it but don't take it away from the hunters that do based on fairness or equality. This type of attitude drives me nuts.

If the numbers and data support bowhunting going on a draw then so be it but I agree with some on here lets see some concrete information before we start taking opportunities away.

X2.....

Some people seem to equate a tag in the pocket like "money in the bank" or a "buck in the truck".....reality is not that way.

Just because you have a tag doesn't mean you are going to fill it....and that more so applies with the bow than the rifle.

LC

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

Everyone seems to equate a tag in the pocket like "money in the bank" or a "buck in the truck".....reality is not that way.

Just because you have a tag doesn't mean you are going to fill it....and that more so applies with the bow than the rifle.

LC

Everyone is a lot of people......

[BuckCuller]

Hey since you are all arguing about seasons we might as well include crossbows and what about a muzzle loader season in every zone, we can just split the tags with the draw system equal opportunity right.

[Lefty-Canuck]

Originally Posted by Dan Boone

I own 3 bows, a Mathews lx, a pse g-force and a Fred bear recurve from the 60s or 70s.

I have harvested a caribou, 4 moose, countless grouse, ptarmigan and rabbits.

Believe me my bows have been in my hand and will continue to be there.

By has stated, 200+ days in 5 years compared to 30 for most of the population.

Where is the fairness? Explain

This is just a joke.... but your comments remind me of a joke....

LOL....thats like the guy who is rascist saying....I am not rascist, I eat chinese food all the time

LC

[Dan Boone]

Bowhunters or any hunters that can not see both sides of an argument are the true jokes.
Some of you guys with your whole hearted sense of entitlement is the true joke.

If you truly are as hardcore, bad to the bone bow hunters as you all pretend to be!

Then why would you not be fighting for a bow only season?
So that if you bow hunt for a particular species, then you cant hunt with any other weapon during any other season for that one species?

Maybe your only pretending to be hardcore bow hunters. And rights be known you only use the bow season waiting for boom stick to open.


I know if I was as hardcore into bowhunting as I was a fee years back, I would happily embrace a bow only season like this for 3 reasons.

1, It would eleminate 90 percent of the so called bow hunters in the woods
2, chances are most every animal would be draw free
3, it would be a lifetime before we ever saw bow draws for mule deer.


Just because you choose to hunt mule deer with a bow, would not mean you could not still apply or buy rifle tags for other species.
But you would forfeit your mule deer draw for that year if you stated you will be bowhunting mule deer that fall.

Jeez, the greed of some amazes me!

[Dan Boone]

Plus you would prob eleminate 100% of the guys throwing arrows at anything that moves. Regardless of distance or circumstance.
Thus eliminating the threads here of lost animals that make all archers look bad.

[BuckCuller]

My self I'm not hardcore anything I'm a bow hunter, a rifle hunter, a crossbow hunter, a muzzle loader hunter and a shot gunner. I personally could have a different weapon in my hands every day of the week depending on seasons, weather and what I feel like shooting that day. I think there is a differnt challenge for every weapon and I love them all. I don't think you should have to be a hard core bow hunter to bow hunt.

[elkmakemecrazy]

Originally Posted by Dan Boone

Bowhunters or any hunters that can not see both sides of an argument are the true jokes.
Some of you guys with your whole hearted sense of entitlement is the true joke.

If you truly are as hardcore, bad to the bone bow hunters as you all pretend to be!

Then why would you not be fighting for a bow only season?
So that if you bow hunt for a particular species, then you cant hunt with any other weapon during any other season for that one species?

Maybe your only pretending to be hardcore bow hunters. And rights be known you only use the bow season waiting for boom stick to open.


I know if I was as hardcore into bowhunting as I was a fee years back, I would happily embrace a bow only season like this for 3 reasons.

1, It would eleminate 90 percent of the so called bow hunters in the woods
2, chances are most every animal would be draw free
3, it would be a lifetime before we ever saw bow draws for mule deer.


Just because you choose to hunt mule deer with a bow, would not mean you could not still apply or buy rifle tags for other species.
But you would forfeit your mule deer draw for that year if you stated you will be bowhunting mule deer that fall.

Jeez, the greed of some amazes me!

So I am a little confused. Can you please explain this to me?

You are saying that bowhunters should be happy to have a bow only season? Pretty sure there already is one.

Then you are saying if you decide to hunt mule deer with a bow then you can't hunt it with a rifle. Isn't this how it is already? Well at least for 4-5 years it is I think. So theoretically your plan is to have bowhunters declare to hunt with a bow until they have built up enough priority until they can draw a rifle tag. Isn't this exactly what we have now?

I guess I need a little more explanation as I can't see how your plan is any different than what we have now and I certainly can't see how this plan is going to help mule deer numbers.

I can see how this plan would work for species on a general tag like elk or whitetail. If you hunt elk in bow season you can't hunt them in rifle and vice versa but for the life of me I can't figure out how this helps mule deer hunting.