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07-06-2018, 08:37 PM
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Beaver fever
Anyone ever hear of a parasite called beaver fever ? I’ve had diarrhea now for 7 days straight , finally went to the hospital . They took blood , made me poop diarrhea into a cardboard container then pour it into 3 individual vials . Doctor calls me 3 days later to tell me I have a parasite called beaver fever . Antibiotics for 5 days I was prescribed .
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07-06-2018, 08:44 PM
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Beaver love has its' risks.
Get well soon!
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07-06-2018, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Canmarksman
Anyone ever hear of a parasite called beaver fever ? I’ve had diarrhea now for 7 days straight , finally went to the hospital . They took blood , made me poop diarrhea into a cardboard container then pour it into 3 individual vials . Doctor calls me 3 days later to tell me I have a parasite called beaver fever . Antibiotics for 5 days I was prescribed .
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Yes I've seen it in action.. ex-wife got it in Late 1980's ... it was gross..
North Sask river was fueling that dose..Can't remember what caused exactly ..but it was not good
Giardiasis, popularly known as beaver fever, is a parasitic disease caused by Giardia lamblia. About 10% of those infected have no symptoms. When symptoms occur they may include diarrhea, abdominal pain, and weight loss. Vomiting, blood in the stool, and fever are less common.
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07-06-2018, 08:58 PM
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Yup. Had it in Banff many years ago. Real fun! Mine just ran it’s course though. RAN being the operative word!
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07-06-2018, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by vinny
Yup. Had it in Banff many years ago. Real fun! Mine just ran it’s course though. RAN being the operative word!
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Yeah I got the antibiotics today but before I even took any I’m feeling less cramps and no diarrhea today . 7 days of diarrhea was horrible I tell ya .
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07-06-2018, 09:12 PM
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Try to get Brown Recluse spider bite. I am fighting it for three years now.
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07-06-2018, 09:13 PM
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Yup. Had it in Banff many years ago. Real fun! Mine just ran it’s course though. RAN being the operative word!
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Same here.
I was working in Banff around 80, 81 when it was in the town water.
I got a mild case of it.
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07-06-2018, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Iskra
Try to get Brown Recluse spider bite. I am fighting it for three years now.
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What are the long term symptoms or effects of a recluse bite ?? How did you positively identify it as being a spider bite ??
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07-06-2018, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Battle Rat
Same here.
I was working in Banff around 80, 81 when it was in the town water.
I got a mild case of it.
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I was probably the same time period! Didn’t know it was in the town water. And yeah I definitely didn’t have it full blown (no pun intended) for seven days. Thank god!
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07-06-2018, 10:09 PM
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Had it once from taking a drink from a waterfall on the side of a mountain while snowmobiling. 3 days of chocolate foam. No more, and too bad was the best drink I ever had.
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07-06-2018, 10:15 PM
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Try being stuck on a rig site in Mexico with no way to get to the hospital to get the ring piece looked at because the farmers in the area had closed down the roads with automatic weapons, forcing the oil companies to fix the roads. 14 days of threading the needle with all the over the counter meds not helping. The only thing I had left in my kit was shaving cream. Worked like magic! Stopped the burning enough so I could sit down. Longest 14 days of my life!!!
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07-06-2018, 10:23 PM
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Not sure if It was a recluse or not but I got a spider bite that left a hole I could stick my finger in about half an inch. It was on my ribcage and the most painful grossest infection I ever had. The skin grew over but there's still a fair bit of meat missing. Sorry I don't mean to derail but there are things in our beloved alberta that will put the hurt on a guy.
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07-06-2018, 10:40 PM
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My old man had it for over 6 months, tested for all sorts of cancers, told to make sure his will was up to date. Lost 80lbs... took a while for his doctor to pin point beaver fever. Week or two of antibiotics he was good as gold. Glad you got onto it fast.
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07-06-2018, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by vinny
I was probably the same time period! Didn’t know it was in the town water. And yeah I definitely didn’t have it full blown (no pun intended) for seven days. Thank god!
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They had warnings out that it was in the town water system so we we brough water with us from Calgary.
I probably picked it up from the drinking in the bar at night.LOL
I filter even good clean spring water now cause giardia can sure screw up your hunt.
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07-06-2018, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bassett
My old man had it for over 6 months, tested for all sorts of cancers, told to make sure his will was up to date. Lost 80lbs... took a while for his doctor to pin point beaver fever. Week or two of antibiotics he was good as gold. Glad you got onto it fast.
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Wow 😮
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07-06-2018, 11:48 PM
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I read that beaver fever has a very high resistance to chlorine. If i remember corrrectly les strouds wife lost a baby due to beaver fever. In their year in tne wild documentary solitude and snowshoes.
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07-07-2018, 12:31 AM
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Many animals carry it in there feces ,some even in there blood stream.You can be sick for a long time if not treated up to 2 or 3 years maybe more.Some people show no effects from it,but most folks know something stinks in Denmark when they get infected with it.
I knew a guy who had one stick to his liver and it grew and got as hard as a rock about the size of a tonnie.He was in the big H for 2 months with iv's in both arms.The parasite never grew ,but the infection spread out.
I don't drink any water from any lake ,period unless it's boiled.I diamond drill for few years when I was young and seen two guys get sick to where they wished they would die from beaver fever from a bad lake.
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07-07-2018, 06:56 AM
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Beaver fever is caused by a parasite called Giardia... disease is known as Giardiasis... like someone said, spread by fecal contamination of water from infected / carrier mammals
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07-07-2018, 07:13 AM
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On the t.v. show Mike Dodge he got beaver fever and used the old country cure of cold water therapy to break the infection. He found a glacier river and spent the day in and out of the water stimulating his immune system. So if you do not have high blood pressure and get caught out in the back woods give it a try.
I used to think some of these old cures were garbage but that's what they used before antibiotics.
How many of you are old enough to remember that if you got sick with a fever your grandparents would put you to bed and cover you with a thick feather comforter and let you sweat out the infection. They had a special name for the feather comforter but I forget it. ( old age)
Yes years ago I got Beaver Fever at the hut in the Bugaboos. I swear it was from the cold water they brought into the hut with a hose but it could be from something else. I remember we did not do a good job of washing ourselves in some of these climbing camps. The alpine club used to put out a steel bowl of bleach water to wash your hands after using the latrine until someone pointed out that the steel neutralized the bleach so they switched to a plastic bowl
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07-07-2018, 07:17 AM
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I remember a magazine ad......
"The next time you dip your mug into that crystal clear mountain stream just remember, the average Canadian moose spends 70% of it's life knee deep in water and urinates around 2 gallons a day..."
I don't remember what was being advertised and those statistics should not be trusted, but the jist of that sentence has stuck with me for many years.
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07-07-2018, 07:31 AM
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Yep. A buddy got it when taking a drink while flyfishing a mountain stream. You never know what is upstream, even if it looks crystal clean. Dead elk rotting into the water and you would never know. I always either pack tap water or a water filtration system.
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07-07-2018, 07:40 AM
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At least they gave you the cardboard container and not just the vials.
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07-07-2018, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by WillyOneStyle
I remember a magazine ad......
"The next time you dip your mug into that crystal clear mountain stream just remember, the average Canadian moose spends 70% of it's life knee deep in water and urinates around 2 gallons a day..."
I don't remember what was being advertised and those statistics should not be trusted, but the jist of that sentence has stuck with me for many years.
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As kids we drank out of streams all the time....we were skinny with the runs
Now most are fat and bunged up....
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07-07-2018, 09:16 AM
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During survival training in the 90's I specifically remember being warned about Beaver Fever. An instructor caught me not boiling my water.
Boil your ****ing water! he bellowed.
It has stuck with me to this day.
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07-07-2018, 09:49 AM
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What are the long term symptoms or effects of a recluse bite ?? How did you positively identify it as being a spider bite ??
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Two small dots about 1/4 inch a part that did not fit any other insect. After a year of "treatment" by family doctor and dermatologist I ended up in a hospital with a hole in my leg, size of a golf ball and almost 1/2 inch deep. After tests I was told it was recluse or black widow. 6 weeks on iv antibiotics last year. It started to come back. I am going to the hospital on Monday.
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07-07-2018, 10:28 AM
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I was told never drink the lake or stream water when I was up in Alaska. Boy am I glad I followed instructions.
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07-07-2018, 10:41 AM
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I got the squirts on a Wheeler river fishing trip, we were filtering river water with an approved filter, one of the water bottles was filled straight out of the river by a guy that thought the filter was a "pansy snowflake device" fortunately he got it too.
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07-07-2018, 07:45 PM
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Hey iskra I can't believe that you still dealing with it a year later. I got the knife out and lanced that thing myself cuz I couldn't stand the pain. There's an old boy that's been in the hospital for a couple years in this area that has the symptom of flesh eating disease because he let it go too long. It was literally eating a hole in me. The old timer has a leg about as big around as your wrist with no meat left on it.
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07-07-2018, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Canmarksman
Yeah I got the antibiotics today but before I even took any I’m feeling less cramps and no diarrhea today . 7 days of diarrhea was horrible I tell ya .
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Be thankful I say! In the fall of ‘04 I went to the Doc after 7 days, got a ‘scrip
and after another week no improvement...another month and 30lbs shed, I was diagnosed with UC.
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07-07-2018, 09:14 PM
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In Alberta every year around 400 people are treated for giardia, and around 100 people for an infection caused by cryptosporidium.
Aside from these water borne diseases any stream or river that is fed by glacial water has other contaminants. Turns out airborne things like DDT, PBC's and other bad things in the air get chilled over the glaciers and drop out of the air. Then are released in glacial ice melt waters.
The Bow Lake at the head waters of the Bow river looks so pristine with it's turquoise waters. Bow Lake has high concentrations of organochlorine contaminants which include organochlorine pesticides(OC's) and PCBs. This water flows into the Bow river's headwaters. Then the river flows through Banff and Canmore, which contribute more contaminants, before it even gets to Calgary. A quote from a study on the Bow... "Research in 1993 determined that trout from Bow Lake have higher levels of organochlorines (OC) than any other trout in western Canadian lakes."
It was determined that the OC's and other contaminants were in the glacier ice melt runoff. The north Saskatchewan and Athabasca rivers are fed by glaciers too. So not all that looks good is good. Boil that water even in pristine back country locations.
* An interesting footnote is that oldtimers thought Pigeon lake water made the best coffee. Right up until the 1940's they got water for coffee straight from the lake.
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