New MLAs - Page 2

Walleyes · #31 03-04-2008, 10:44 AM

The problem is it may go to caucus but with the majority they they got in on they have to answer to no one unfortunately they can do what they please... It doesn't seem to matter what they do they will be re- elected... Oh sure we will see a couple guys stick up and make a show for their constituents but in the end they will do what they are told..

I beleive this thing will go through on the trial basis with a few minor changes but it will go through...

Some opposition would sure be nice in this province !!!

Neil Waugh · #32 03-04-2008, 10:58 AM

I guess I must have got out of the owly side of the bed this morning and went a little too hard on ole TJ. Sorry Bud, I know that you truly have the best interests of Alberta Outdoorsmen and women at heart.

The reason why Morton is the best tool for the job?
Because he's one of us for starters. No learning curve for Ted.
And he's said many times is a crock he'll "can" it.

If you want to see the Deseret Ranch hunting regs google Deseret Land and Cattle. It's an eye opener.

Let the debate continue.

#33 03-04-2008, 11:01 AM

Sorry Neil Bad timing on my part.

Try and stay focused Sheep you brought up some good points, take your little spat with Neil to the PM's plus I'm sure you have his number Neil is a stand up guy and I'm sure he'll be around to explain himself later. As well your position on OS is going to be interpreted by your posts, if you don't state yor position any clearer than you have we'll do the interpretation, we get it some people stand up and say what's on there minds (Bubba and Duffy4 come to mind) and some got A's in English and Philosophy in school and like to play the dark deep secretive role. Fine.

Delburndave stated it we have more letter's to write. It was interesting that at some point in the last week there must have been enough letters coming from various places to reach a critical level that is when Ed decided to start addressing OS. The same thing can happen now. Influence your candidate and get them involved in this issue. It took Barry MacFarland quite some time to realize that his role in this might not have been the right way to deal with it, but he is also on record saying he'll try and help. Good enough now send him a message.

ARHJ

brownbomber · #34 03-04-2008, 11:22 AM

seriously neil you think ted is one of us? last time i checked most of us weren't very much like ted. i think most of us were born in canada unlike ted, i think most of us are against open spaces, i think most of us support our troops and haven't been venhement anti war protestors, i think most of us aren't elitists that subscribe to the "calgary school" of thought when it comes to social programs being a bare bones type of thing and the more you pay the better service you get.
but mabye you were just speaking for yourself and yes like you ted is a writer. i fully realize that you are a writer and will be able to talk circles around me and prove your point of what a great guy ted is and all he cares about is hunting and has no love for big business but just had to express myself. oh and last thing was i didn't quite get the thing about the crock? was it meant that if open spaces or any issue in particular turns out to be a crock he'll can it? sorry if i'm being grumpy but just don't like being compared with people like that.

Jamie · #35 03-04-2008, 11:38 AM

Easy now boys.. Ted isnt the devil. I just think he is extremly misguided on this issue.
I like ted.. I just hate this O/S idea. Surely we can come up with a better solution.
Ted is the Best SRD minister we have ever had. Unfortunatly he has come up with the second worst idea in history.. #1 being game farming.

Jamie

Loper · #36 03-04-2008, 12:04 PM

Was interested to notice on the APOS website a Bill Morton running Ridge country Outfitters out of Cardston. If this is a relation of Teds I would see his involvement in OS as a clear conflict of interest.

lazy ike · #37 03-04-2008, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Loper

Was interested to notice on the APOS website a Bill Morton running Ridge country Outfitters out of Cardston. If this is a relation of Teds I would see his involvement in OS as a clear conflict of interest.

Good question, I notice they are listed on the outdoor quest website so perhaps TJ and or Rich could save me a couple of phone calls?

#38 03-04-2008, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Loper

Was interested to notice on the APOS website a Bill Morton running Ridge country Outfitters out of Cardston. If this is a relation of Teds I would see his involvement in OS as a clear conflict of interest.

Nice catch loper. Worth looking into.

#39 03-04-2008, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by lazy ike

Good question, I notice they are listed on the outdoor quest website so perhaps TJ and or Rich could save me a couple of phone calls?

We hunted waterfowl with Bill a number of years ago......I think 2004 was the last time..... He runs a great goose camp but there's where my knowledge of Bill ends. Sorry I can't shed any light on your other concerns...I guess it's off to the phone for you.....let us know what you find out.

lazy ike · #40 03-04-2008, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sheephunter

We hunted waterfowl will Bill a number of years ago......I think 2004 was the last time..... He runs a great goose camp but there's where my knowledge of Bill ends. Sorry In can't shed any light on your other concerns...I guess it's off to the phone for you.....let us know what you find out.

Thanks anyway.

Copidosoma · #41 03-04-2008, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie

Ted is the Best SRD minister we have ever had. Unfortunatly he has come up with the second worst idea in history.. #1 being game farming.

Jamie

Not a difficult thing to do. We've had some real duds in the past.

Jamie · #42 03-04-2008, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Copidosoma

Not a difficult thing to do. We've had some real duds in the past.

Perhaps it is not dificult.. But at least he is doing it.

Jamie

Copidosoma · #43 03-04-2008, 01:35 PM

I guess... If you want to be a "glass is half full" sort of guy.

sonny · #44 03-04-2008, 01:59 PM

Yes Ted Morton is related to Bill Morton from Cardston.
One other point,at the meeting in Cardston, Ted Morton said he has harvested 7 mule deer bucks, in the 180 class, in zone 108,since 1998.
So that means 7 mule bucks in 9 years, Is ted morton also an archerer,or does he have a dual-citizenship.
In zone 108 it takes a resident 8 to 10 years to get a draw for an antlered
mule deer.

slopeshunter · #45 03-04-2008, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sonny

Yes Ted Morton is related to Bill Morton from Cardston.
One other point,at the meeting in Cardston, Ted Morton said he has harvested 7 mule deer bucks, in the 180 class, in zone 108,since 1998.
So that means 7 mule bucks in 9 years, Is ted morton also an archerer,or does he have a dual-citizenship.
In zone 108 it takes a resident 8 to 10 years to get a draw for an antlered
mule deer.

Interesting, is he a landowner in 108 using landowner tags???

MathewsArcher · #46 03-04-2008, 02:21 PM

According to newsarticles Ted is a dual Canadian/US citizen.

Could he then hire a guide outfitter and hunt this zone every year as a non-resident and also apply in the resident draw?

Can someone hold two WIN numbers one as a resident and one as a non-resident?

#47 03-04-2008, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sonny

Yes Ted Morton is related to Bill Morton from Cardston.
One other point,at the meeting in Cardston, Ted Morton said he has harvested 7 mule deer bucks, in the 180 class, in zone 108,since 1998.
So that means 7 mule bucks in 9 years, Is ted morton also an archerer,or does he have a dual-citizenship.
In zone 108 it takes a resident 8 to 10 years to get a draw for an antlered
mule deer.

How is Bill and Ted related? This may turn out to be an excellent adventure

Walleyes · #48 03-04-2008, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SNIPER

How is Bill and Ted related? This may turn out to be an excellent adventure

Ahhhaaa thats a good one dude

Waxy · #49 03-04-2008, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SNIPER

How is Bill and Ted related? This may turn out to be an excellent adventure

Waxy

TheClash · #50 03-04-2008, 02:50 PM

lots of mortons down this way to sneak in on some landowner tags......

#51 03-04-2008, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MathewsArcher

According to newsarticles Ted is a dual Canadian/US citizen.

Could he then hire a guide outfitter and hunt this zone every year as a non-resident and also apply in the resident draw?

Can someone hold two WIN numbers one as a resident and one as a non-resident?

Wow...do you stay up at night dreaming this stuff up or does it just come to you in a blinding flash? No wonder people have trouble taking hunters seriously.

#52 03-04-2008, 03:07 PM

Is anyone allowed to ask question or just certain people?

#53 03-04-2008, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sonny

Yes Ted Morton is related to Bill Morton from Cardston.
One other point,at the meeting in Cardston, Ted Morton said he has harvested 7 mule deer bucks, in the 180 class, in zone 108,since 1998.
So that means 7 mule bucks in 9 years, Is ted morton also an archerer,or does he have a dual-citizenship.
In zone 108 it takes a resident 8 to 10 years to get a draw for an antlered
mule deer.

32.79% of priority 4 and 100% of priority 5 were drawn in WMU108 for antlered mule deer in 2006 I don't recall him saying 7 bucks in his address at conference but I could be wrong.

#54 03-04-2008, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sheephunter

Funny that 32.79% of priority 4 and 100% of priority 5 were drawn in WMU108 for antlered mule deer in 2006 but never let the facts get in the way of a good conspiracy.

Math is a wonderful thing. Even if he got drawn at priority 4 every time that still only adds up to 2.25 tags. Don't let math get in the way.

#55 03-04-2008, 03:24 PM

Actually three tags but you are right it doesn't equal 7 but I don't remember him citing that number...do you? Guess he could be an archer as well....not really sure. Maybe priority requirements were lower 10 years ago as well....I never looked.

MathewsArcher · #56 03-04-2008, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sheephunter

Wow...do you stay up at night dreaming this stuff up or does it just come to you in a blinding flash? No wonder people have trouble taking hunters seriously.

Sheep - Not sure what your problem is.

I am actually a dual citizen as well and have always applied for and hunted as a resident. The post made me wonder if it was possible to do so.

Could I purchase a hunt as a non-resident from and outfitter (as an american citizen) and still hold a valid win as a resident. What the hell is wrong with questioning that?

Pathfinder76 · #57 03-04-2008, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by sheephunter:

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I don't remember him citing that number

Where you at the Cardston meeting?

#58 03-04-2008, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by chuck

Originally posted by sheephunter:

Where you at the Cardston meeting?

No sorry I misread that...I thought it refered to his minister's address at conference...I know in that speech he spoke about killing mule deer in 108 as well but the number wasn't close to seven.

Pathfinder76 · #59 03-04-2008, 04:01 PM

He spoke about it in Pincher Creek as well. As I recall it was 7 animals total over that time frame in 108 and 300. Mule Deer in 108, and Elk in 300. When he gave the numbers, they didn't seem out of line anyway.

LongDraw · #60 03-04-2008, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MathewsArcher

I am actually a dual citizen as well and have always applied for and hunted as a resident. The post made me wonder if it was possible to do so.

I beleive the way the regulations read is where you reside, not where you are a citizen. They are two seperate items.

You could be a US citizen, but reside in Alberta and hunt as a resident.