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"A brainless moron" quote.

The guy battled thru treachery from the highest levels of our government system because we the people elected him.
I'd have a bit of a chip on my shoulder as well.
He had given us the lowest overall unemployment in decades.
Lowest unemployment for minorities and illegals.
Personal incomes rose.
Closed up our borders more to illegals.
Brought China to the table and tamped them down.
Brought out the strongest economy in the world, despite his predecessor saying the doldrums were the new norm.
Supports our gun rights.
All this and much more in barely three years while both sides were against him, and a non stop negative media assault.
There has been more.

We didn't elect him for his table manners nor did we elect him for "party". ( Having a beautiful and classy First Lady for a change is a plus)
No surprises, no paybacks, no butt kissing, not much change of policy once so called "facts were later discovered. For us as a people he does what he says.
I'll take this "brainless moron" over any other option at the moment.
I'm glad to know that makes me of lower intelligence. I will now be able to reorganize my life according to incredible intelligence of those on the highest of self aggrandizing pedestals.

Osky
I feel embarrassed by the lack of respect shown the POTUS in this country. Our media jumps right on the CNN band wagon. They will often lead with 10 minutes of anti Trump BS before even addressing our own news headlines.

People like EZM and Zip-in-Z are too ignorant to realize why the media bash Trump and how support of the "Fake News" plays right into the hands of our leftist puppet master Trudeau.

Trudeau, more socialist than Bernie and just slightly less demented than Joe, pays off the entire mainstream media in Canada via funding. They in turn support his idiotic ideology by constantly repeating his message which of course is exactly the opposite of Trump's agenda. Bashing Trump allows them to viciously attack the conservative right without actually throwing the mud in our direction. We are bombarded with hatred from the left like the "brainless moron" comment from EZM and Memes from Zip-in-Z. They know they can't change an intelligent person's mind without facts so they name call like children hoping to influence the sheep to follow. Sad part is, it's working.

It is exactly the same shell game they use to remove our rights and freedoms regarding hunting and shooting. Name calling and fear mongering where facts are lacking is unchecked in this country's media.
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Old 05-27-2020, 09:02 AM
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And.... since when are we supposed to"pick a team" or a side in politics?

and only listen to YOUR side?

Sounds like an effective way to take power by either side.

Pick our team... hate the other... divide....

I just wonder who's conquering here...?
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Seems to me your feelings are the ones that seem to hurt anytime anyone says something negative about Trump. Get over it. The guy is a narcissistic idiot, compulsive liar and brainless moron - and he proves it every time he opens his mouth. There is no disputing that - no intelligent person would attempt to argue otherwise.

To your point ...........

To even suggest you MUST support Trump otherwise you are somehow not a conservative is nonsense - utter nonsense.
What part of his policy don’t you like?
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Figured it may fly over your head.
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"A brainless moron" quote.

The guy battled thru treachery from the highest levels of our government system because we the people elected him.
I'd have a bit of a chip on my shoulder as well.
He had given us the lowest overall unemployment in decades.
Lowest unemployment for minorities and illegals.
Personal incomes rose.
Closed up our borders more to illegals.
Brought China to the table and tamped them down.
Brought out the strongest economy in the world, despite his predecessor saying the doldrums were the new norm.
Supports our gun rights.
All this and much more in barely three years while both sides were against him, and a non stop negative media assault.
There has been more.

We didn't elect him for his table manners nor did we elect him for "party". ( Having a beautiful and classy First Lady for a change is a plus)
No surprises, no paybacks, no butt kissing, not much change of policy once so called "facts were later discovered. For us as a people he does what he says.
I'll take this "brainless moron" over any other option at the moment.
I'm glad to know that makes me of lower intelligence. I will now be able to reorganize my life according to incredible intelligence of those on the highest of self aggrandizing pedestals.

Osky
Spot on!!! and very well said. I must be one of the low intelligence guys too.
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Old 05-27-2020, 09:09 AM
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And.... since when are we supposed to"pick a team" or a side in politics?

and only listen to YOUR side?

Sounds like an effective way to take power by either side.

Pick our team... hate the other... divide....

I just wonder who's conquering here...?
Your side is winning in this country. We will soon be bankrupt and control of the masses is well underway.

Down south they are clinging to rights and freedoms in spite of the constant bombardment from your leftist leaders and media mob.
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Old 05-27-2020, 09:15 AM
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If we had someone like Trump running our country, we wouldn’t be giving all our money to other countries, the govt wouldn’t be trying to take all our guns away and our economy would be in a lot better shape. Doubt we’d be giving millions to terrorists or welcoming isis fighters back in the country either
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Old 05-27-2020, 09:16 AM
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And.... since when are we supposed to"pick a team" or a side in politics?

and only listen to YOUR side?

Sounds like an effective way to take power by either side.

Pick our team... hate the other... divide....

I just wonder who's conquering here...?
Reminds me of the political spectrum and we all know what the extremes are if we aren’t allowed to choose a place in between.
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Old 05-27-2020, 09:18 AM
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If we had someone like Trump running our country, we wouldn’t be giving all our money to other countries, the govt wouldn’t be trying to take all our guns away and our economy would be in a lot better shape. Doubt we’d be giving millions to terrorists or welcoming isis fighters back in the country either
Absolutely. But where do you think Trumps money was going before he became president? Living one life while preaching another. Sounds like our leader and most politicians in general.
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Old 05-27-2020, 09:19 AM
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If we had someone like Trump running our country, we wouldn’t be giving all our money to other countries, the govt wouldn’t be trying to take all our guns away and our economy would be in a lot better shape. Doubt we’d be giving millions to terrorists or welcoming isis fighters back in the country either
Agreed. There is a very good reason why last year 40,000 Canadians moved to the states permanently and only 7,000 Americans moved to Canada. I have said before, if I had kids I would be doing everything possible to get them to the States, get them permanent residency, then citizenship. Canada will survive my lifetime but the future for our children and grandchildren is in serious jeopardy.
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Agreed. There is a very good reason why last year 40,000 Canadians moved to the states permanently and only 7,000 Americans moved to Canada. I have said before, if I had kids I would be doing everything possible to get them to the States, get them permanent residency, then citizenship. Canada will survive my lifetime but the future for our children and grandchildren is in serious jeopardy.
Illegals must count for more than 7000 coming here? Lol
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Reminds me of the political spectrum and we all know what the extremes are if we aren’t allowed to choose a place in between.
OH NO! Not the extremes! Thank God we have a hung Parliament with a bunch of designer socialists, environmentalists and Quebecers pulling the strings instead of the dreaded extremes.
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Old 05-27-2020, 09:23 AM
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Your side is winning in this country. We will soon be bankrupt and control of the masses is well underway.

Down south they are clinging to fights and freedoms in spite of the constant bombardment from your leftist leaders and media mob.
My side....

I'm a canadian. Politicians are like tools to be used. Churchill was an ass... but he was the best tool for the job. FDR was the best tool for the 30's..... Harper was the best tool for 2008 recession. Martin and (ugh..cause i despise him) Chretien were the best tools for the early 90's (but then they sucked big time)

You love to assume your perceived enemies. Keep barking when they whistle.

Both sides do it.... so really.. how are you better than 'the other side"



Here's one for ya..... "they are winning"....

does that not seriously sound like.."times change, stuff changes"

and we're sitting around grumbling "kids these days"?

just spitballing. I could be wrong.



ps.... "the debt story" isn't as straight forward as you think... its not like a household finance spreadsheet... bit more to that.

before you jump all around pointing.... no.. I m not for more 'quanitiative easing' (I'd rather free up the trapped liquidity that's just sitting)

anyone thats actually met me knows me as a non spendy.


but you keep slappin dat lable now... it makes ya feel good



BTW... you are correct.. they are still hanging on to their "fights and freedoms"

them chubbies runnin around in Michigan with sure look like their rights are affected.
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Old 05-27-2020, 09:26 AM
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I feel more like it the taxpayers in this country that are being used
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Old 05-27-2020, 09:26 AM
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Agreed. There is a very good reason why last year 40,000 Canadians moved to the states permanently and only 7,000 Americans moved to Canada. I have said before, if I had kids I would be doing everything possible to get them to the States, get them permanent residency, then citizenship. Canada will survive my lifetime but the future for our children and grandchildren is in serious jeopardy.
AND it is our best and brightest taking off while we import refugees that are years adjusting to society all paid for by us.
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My side....

I'm a canadian. Politicians are like tools to be used. Churchill was an ass... but he was the best tool for the job. FDR was the best tool for the 30's..... Harper was the best tool for 2008 recession. Martin and (ugh..cause i despise him) Chretien were the best tools for the early 90's (but then they sucked big time)

You love to assume your perceived enemies. Keep barking when they whistle.

Both sides do it.... so really.. how are you better than 'the other side"



Here's one for ya..... "they are winning"....

does that not seriously sound like.."times change, stuff changes"

and we're sitting around grumbling "kids these days"?

just spitballing. I could be wrong.



ps.... "the debt story" isn't as straight forward as you think... its not like a household finance spreadsheet... bit more to that.

before you jump all around pointing.... no.. I m not for more 'quanitiative easing' (I'd rather free up the trapped liquidity that's just sitting)

anyone thats actually met me knows me as a non spendy.


but you keep slappin dat lable now... it makes ya feel good
I know your story. I heard all about it going though our educational system that is as left wing as the media. Why don't you just go ahead and tell us simpletons how to spend your way to prosperity and how the budget will balance itself?
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This is a very interesting and even entertaining thread. Am I even allowed to play, not being firmly strangled by the grips of either "team"? Are we even allowed to think that maybe neither option is that great? Politics remind me of religion.

Serious ? though. Why is our added debt under Trudeau a death sentence for our grandkids but the added debt under Trump across the border never mentioned? If there is a reason, someone please point it out, I honestly get bogged down mentally every time I try to sift through economic articles pertaining to our respective debts.

P.S. From a debate standpoint, I think there are too many "emotional responses" on the thread as opposed to facts.
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This is a very interesting and even entertaining thread. Am I even allowed to play, not being firmly strangled by the grips of either "team"? Are we even allowed to think that maybe neither option is that great? Politics remind me of religion.

Serious ? though. Why is our added debt under Trudeau a death sentence for our grandkids but the added debt under Trump across the border never mentioned? If there is a reason, someone please point it out, I honestly get bogged down mentally every time I try to sift through economic articles pertaining to our respective debts.

P.S. From a debate standpoint, I think there are too many "emotional responses" on the thread as opposed to facts.
Great post. Ironic part is that the extreme right wing is arguing with the moderate right wing claiming they must be left as they aren’t right wing enough. Keep isolating the middle people and conservatives will never win another election.
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I know your story. I heard all about it going though our educational system that is as left wing as the media. Why don't you just go ahead and tell us simpletons how to spend your way to prosperity and how the budget will balance itself?



ah yes you know me..... that says it all right there.


thank you


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Agreed. There is a very good reason why last year 40,000 Canadians moved to the states permanently and only 7,000 Americans moved to Canada.
Is there a link for this? I'm not saying it is incorrect, but I'm a guy that questions a lot of stuff. I've looked for an hour now and the numbers I find are 10800 Americans coming here and roughly 16000 Canadians heading there. I also bet weather plays a greater role in people going south than politics. Anyways, I'd love to see the link to 7000vs40000 because those numbers are nowhere near the numbers I've found in respective immigration by country data bases.
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Is there a link for this? I'm not saying it is incorrect, but I'm a guy that questions a lot of stuff. I've looked for an hour now and the numbers I find are 10800 Americans coming here and roughly 16000 Canadians heading there. I also bet weather plays a greater role in people going south than politics. Anyways, I'd love to see the link to 7000vs40000 because those numbers are nowhere near the numbers I've found in respective immigration by country data bases.
Lots of oil industry people heading south for jobs out of desperation.
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This is a very interesting and even entertaining thread. Am I even allowed to play, not being firmly strangled by the grips of either "team"? Are we even allowed to think that maybe neither option is that great? Politics remind me of religion.

Serious ? though. Why is our added debt under Trudeau a death sentence for our grandkids but the added debt under Trump across the border never mentioned? If there is a reason, someone please point it out, I honestly get bogged down mentally every time I try to sift through economic articles pertaining to our respective debts.

P.S. From a debate standpoint, I think there are too many "emotional responses" on the thread as opposed to facts.
The vast amount of US debt was accumulated playing God and chasing oil. If people would bother to listen to Trump and study his policies, they would find he is pulling back on that and concentrating on what is best for the American people.

Much of the present debt that is being accumulated is going to poorly managed blue states that were in financial trouble long before the pandemic. NY for example lays the highest tax burden on it's citizens yet was in financial ruin due to mismanagement from the left. The same wingnuts that tried to impeach Trump are demanding and receiving bailouts for mismanagement in spite of the pandemic crisis.
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How many hundreds of millions has Trudeau given to other countries in the last year? How does any of it benefit Canadian taxpayers? Why are we still giving China money?
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So you're telling me that the 3 trillion Trump added to the national debt before this pandemic ever showed up is the fault of the left and blue? I do know that Obama added a trillion more during the same stretch but Clinton didn't even add a trillion so surely it isn't as cut and dried as right/left, red/blue.

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To say there is NO benefit is simply incorrect although it sure does not seem as beneficial as a bunch more fun money in my pocket that's for certain.
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Is there a link for this? I'm not saying it is incorrect, but I'm a guy that questions a lot of stuff. I've looked for an hour now and the numbers I find are 10800 Americans coming here and roughly 16000 Canadians heading there. I also bet weather plays a greater role in people going south than politics. Anyways, I'd love to see the link to 7000vs40000 because those numbers are nowhere near the numbers I've found in respective immigration by country data bases.
I was actually being conservative because the info I read actually looks like over 75,000 per year if you take the average over ten years.

https://www.quora.com/What-percent-o...ove-to-the-USA

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Canadian Immigrants in the United States

Per the article, about 10 percent of the total US immigrant population are from Canada. Around 750,000 to 800,000 Canadians per decade immigrate to the USA. Fluctuates a bit but has remained pretty constant over the past several decades. Upswings, such as the Canadian “brain drain” in the 1990s, are offset over time.

Percentage-wise of the Canadian population, around 2–3% of the total population of Canada emigrates to the USA at any given time.
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So you're telling me that the 3 trillion Trump added to the national debt before this pandemic ever showed up is the fault of the left and blue? I do know that Obama added a trillion more during the same stretch but Clinton didn't even add a trillion so surely it isn't as cut and dried as right/left, red/blue.


Too many.


To say there is NO benefit is simply incorrect although it sure does not seem as beneficial as a bunch more fun money in my pocket that's for certain.
Spending is not completely controlled by the President in the US. Canada is actually more of a dictatorship than the US. He is most certainly influential but he does not control the house which is strongly democratic left.
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