I have some questions for you guys

[LKILR]

is it legal for a landowner to post his land NO HUNTING and then himself hunt on that land? Is it legal for the same landowner to hunt from his haystack? Is this considered baiting? Last question if some one shoots an animal and it take several days to recover the animal and the meat has spoiled can they legally recover the antlers and leave the meat behind or throw it away?

[billie]

1. He can post it as he wishes and can hunt it if he chooses.
2. Baiting is defined by intent. Hay storage is normal farm activity. Hunting on a farm is normal hunting activity.
3. You would have to file a "found dead wildlife" claim to retain the antlers.

IMO.

[cjhouben]

X2 What billie said.

[paul1964]

you can post no hunting signs. but with permision you can hunt on it. but if he posts no shooting signs no one can discharge a firearm unless he is protecting his live stock .

[justforkicks]

A land owner can post his land no hunting and no trespassing and still hunt since the land owner is the only one who can press charges. The land owner can even let friends/family on posted lands.

I do not know for sure about your other questions but I think it is legal to hunt from a bale stack since stacking hay is a common agricultural practice and not baiting. Now wih finding the deer several days later I believe it is only illegal to let editable meat go to waste and after say 3 or 4 days I doubt it would still be editable any more but I could be wrong.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by paul1964

you can post no hunting signs. but with permision you can hunt on it. but if he posts no shooting signs no one can discharge a firearm unless he is protecting his live stock .

The landowner can post what he pleases, and still shoot on his land. That also applies to anyone that has the landowner's permission.

[j m]

Your first 2 questions are well covered by the previous posters, but the last one about the found dead permit isn't applicable. For that permit you need to swear a statement saying you know nothing of how the animal expired. You could keep the horns if you seal your tag.

[H380]

If he is hunting from his stack , he may very well be trying to keep animals out of it . I shot a mule deer a few years ago that had previously been wounded and was inedible . I contacted the warden and he told me I could tag the animal and keep the horns and dump the meat "OR " surrender the horns and keep hunting .I kept the horns . If someone recovers "his" animal after meat is inedible I would think he should use his tag instead of getting the found dead permit , afterall , he is responsible for it being dead .IMO.

[honda450]

Originally Posted by j m

Your first 2 questions are well covered by the previous posters, but the last one about the found dead permit isn't applicable. For that permit you need to swear a statement saying you know nothing of how the animal expired. You could keep the horns if you seal your tag.

I would agree.

If he told FW he shot it but did not find it for several days. I think they would make him tag it just for the rack. Even if the meat was a waste. My opinon only.

Dang you guys type fast. One finger guy myself. hehe

[livinstone]

l think he has made the commitment to buy the the land and the table is wide open for everyone to do the same if you are willing to give up some things if they would like to have somewhere hussale free.

[drake]

this is alberta where ownership and title mean something....not novascotia

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by paul1964

you can post no hunting signs. but with permision you can hunt on it. but if he posts no shooting signs no one can discharge a firearm unless he is protecting his live stock .

LOL And where did you get this from? An owner can do anything legal he wants on his land, regardless of how he posts it, and he can extend the privilege (where legal) to any other person he chooses.

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by billie

2. Baiting is defined by intent. Hay storage is normal farm activity. Hunting on a farm is normal hunting activity.
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I can't imagine you could or would ever be charged. However, if you took all the bales of your land save one, right near that rub (and there were no cattle on the land to eat it), and put a decoy right by it, a really ambitions F&W fellow might try to make a case.

[Sooner]

Originally Posted by Okotokian

LOL And where did you get this from? An owner can do anything legal he wants on his land, regardless of how he posts it, and he can extend the privilege (where legal) to any other person he chooses.

X2 on what Oki said, one of the best wives tales around. Post no hunting on your land and even the owner cant hunt or shoot. Been hearing this one for many years.

[H380]

Originally Posted by Okotokian

I can't imagine you could or would ever be charged. However, if you took all the bales of your land save one, right near that rub (and there were no cattle on the land to eat it), and put a decoy right by it, a really ambitions F&W fellow might try to make a case.

Should take a picture as I saw one such setup yesterday . If F&W officers don't see it , they aren't looking .

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by Sooner

X2 on what Oki said, one of the best wives tales around. Post no hunting on your land and even the owner cant hunt or shoot. Been hearing this one for many years.

Where do people come up with such nonsense?

[Big Daddy Badger]

Originally Posted by LKILR

is it legal for a landowner to post his land NO HUNTING and then himself hunt on that land? Is it legal for the same landowner to hunt from his haystack? Is this considered baiting? Last question if some one shoots an animal and it take several days to recover the animal and the meat has spoiled can they legally recover the antlers and leave the meat behind or throw it away?

What everyone else said...

But... I'd like to add...quite often what you don't see on a No Hunting sign is the small print...without permission.
Sometimes that is left off the sign altogether.

Ask the guy if you can hunt there...he might say yes.
I know a couple landowners that put the signs up to keep people from just wandering on without permission but will allow those who are considerate enough to ask...access.

[Big Daddy Badger]

Originally Posted by Sooner

X2 on what Oki said, one of the best wives tales around. Post no hunting on your land and even the owner cant hunt or shoot. Been hearing this one for many years.

Perhaps in other provinces or at one time but...not here and now?

The reason I suspect that is that my father, his father and grandfather and so on back to the mid 1800's was a landowner here up until the 1950s.... and that was something that he used to say as well.

Who knows how the law was enforced 50 or 60 years ago?
The fish cops might have had their way with folks until someone got their Irish up and decided to challenge it way back when.

Its not like we don't still see the province trying nibble at landowner rights from time to time.

[Hotwheels81]

I'm told that if you post no hunting signs and don't hunt or allow hunting on your farm land then making an insurance claim for wildlife damaged items such as hay and grain stores can be tricky...

[Sneeze]

The real question is if I post a sign on my land that says "No ugly chics" - can I still bring home a pig dog lady with out being in trouble from my buddies?



On cereal - its private property. He can post it however he likes. However - the land can't be purchased and managed for the sole purposes of hunting. That would be contrary to the wildlife act!

[Okotokian]

I always think "No Hunting Without Permission" or "No Trespassing" signs on fenced land are funny. Who are they for? Honest people don't need to be told, and crooks and poachers by definition ignore them.

[JRsMav]

Originally Posted by Sneeze

The real question is if I post a sign on my land that says "No ugly chics" - can I still bring home a pig dog lady with out being in trouble from my buddies?



On cereal - its private property. He can post it however he likes. However - the land can't be purchased and managed for the sole purposes of hunting. That would be contrary to the wildlife act!

Im not being a smart -*****. Wondering where in the wildlife act it says you cant purchase land solely to hunt on?

Im fairly confident that if I go out and buy a section of land with nothing but bush on it. Let it sit year after year only go out during hunting season theres not a single bleeping thing anyone can do about it.

[CBintheNorth]

Originally Posted by Okotokian

I always think "No Hunting Without Permission" or "No Trespassing" signs on fenced land are funny. Who are they for? Honest people don't need to be told, and crooks and poachers by definition ignore them.

They're for the insurance company. At least lately anyhow.

[Big Daddy Badger]

Originally Posted by Sneeze

The real question is if I post a sign on my land that says "No ugly chics" - can I still bring home a pig dog lady with out being in trouble from my buddies?



On cereal - its private property. He can post it however he likes. However - the land can't be purchased and managed for the sole purposes of hunting. That would be contrary to the wildlife act!

No.
Your real friends will always give you a hard time when you make poor choices.
If they have pictures... they will also...rightly... demand beer.

[LKILR]

So the reason I ask these questions is a local rancher has his land posted no hunting but he and his family hunt there. this year there was a very large bull elk that was coming around the hay stack so the rancher went and got his very first bow hunting permit ever went to the hay stack and sent an arrow through the guts of this elk and recovered it a few days later. the meat was not edible. seems unfair that the landowner gets exclusive hunting rights for this bull when someone more experinced might have had a chance to harvest him and maybe recover the meat.

[elkhunter11]

So the reason I ask these questions is a local rancher has his land posted no hunting but he and his family hunt there. this year there was a very large bull elk that was coming around the hay stack so the rancher went and got his very first bow hunting permit ever went to the hay stack and sent an arrow through the guts of this elk and recovered it a few days later. the meat was not edible. seems unfair that the landowner gets exclusive hunting rights for this bull when someone more experinced might have had a chance to harvest him and maybe recover the meat.

He pays the taxes, and makes his living off the land, so it's only fair that he get's to decide who can hunt on that land. If you don't like it, buy some land of your own.

[Bushrat]

Those rights come with the luxury of owing your own land. That's why people buy land. Anybody know of some cheap hunting land??

[Eze]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

He pays the taxes, and makes his living off the land, so it's only fair that he get's to decide who can hunt on that land. If you don't like it, buy some land of your own.

i agree and yes youy can buy land just to hunt on. Its private and yours so enjoy

[flyguyd]

Originally Posted by Bushrat

Those rights come with the luxury of owing your own land. That's why people buy land. Anybody know of some cheap hunting land??

Yup

But you'll have to hunt in Saskatchewan LOL

[bobalong]

Originally Posted by LKILR

So the reason I ask these questions is a local rancher has his land posted no hunting but he and his family hunt there. this year there was a very large bull elk that was coming around the hay stack so the rancher went and got his very first bow hunting permit ever went to the hay stack and sent an arrow through the guts of this elk and recovered it a few days later. the meat was not edible. seems unfair that the landowner gets exclusive hunting rights for this bull when someone more experinced might have had a chance to harvest him and maybe recover the meat.

So you think it is unfair that the landowner gets exclusive hunting rights for hunting his own land?????????