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06-23-2015, 06:29 PM
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New rifle for the Rangers.
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06-23-2015, 06:41 PM
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I like it. Looks like a metal 10 round mag? 22" barrel?
I wonder if they'll be available to the public
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06-23-2015, 06:59 PM
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Looks like a ruger scout rifle maybe should have looked in that direction too
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06-23-2015, 07:03 PM
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Looks good.
Just wish they would sell the old enfields. I assume they'll melt them.
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06-23-2015, 07:15 PM
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If Colt Canada is to produce the barrel, bolt & receiver under licence are they a separate entity from Colt in the US which is undergoing receivership? It would be hard to get those made if the machinery is currently on the auction block.......
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06-23-2015, 07:18 PM
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plastic bolt shroud, I guess they don't know the effect of -50 on plastic
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06-23-2015, 07:58 PM
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I'll bet one of those will cost twice as much as a C7 but I guess the gubby doesn't want our first line of defence toting scary army guns.
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06-23-2015, 08:58 PM
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little weird looking for me, but its good that they wont have to use those old rifles anymore!
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06-23-2015, 09:01 PM
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It looks like a T-3 to me. Apparently it's being built under license from Sako by Colt Canada.
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06-23-2015, 09:01 PM
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Looks like a cross between tikka, and rugers scout rifle. They would sell a dump load if they hit the market.
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06-23-2015, 09:06 PM
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Nice.
Probably about time they upgraded from the Lee Enfield No. 4
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06-23-2015, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by st99
plastic bolt shroud, I guess they don't know the effect of -50 on plastic
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i bet they do know and you dont
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06-23-2015, 09:21 PM
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Well, at least they didn't decide to saddle them with a danged semi something or other!!
Well protected irons, I could hunt with that puppy!
Too much fluff in that pelican , IMO, they could simply have gone with a quality drag bag and be done with it!
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06-23-2015, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott N
It looks like a T-3 to me. Apparently it's being built under license from Sako by Colt Canada.
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sure appears that way. it looks like they are just making a modified version of the new tikka CTR that just came out this year.
http://www.tikka.fi/rifles/tikka-t3/...tactical-rifle
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06-23-2015, 09:23 PM
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Different stock and barrel, but that's it for sure as far as the action goes.
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06-23-2015, 09:37 PM
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I'll bet one of those will cost twice as much as a C7 but I guess the gubby doesn't want our first line of defence toting scary army guns.
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You might want to educate yourself more on the operational requirements of the rifle.
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06-23-2015, 09:52 PM
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06-23-2015, 09:53 PM
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bolt action rifle us more reliable than gas operated weapons in extreme conditions. plus this rifle is to be used for hunting . 308 round
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06-23-2015, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 58thecat
Looks like a ruger scout rifle maybe should have looked in that direction too
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They did. Ruger wouldn't release their data to Colt Canada to build them here.
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06-23-2015, 10:10 PM
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No one good enough in this country to build a gun or maybe there is no maker that can fill that order?sako is a very fine gun maker but it would be nice to make our own stuff.
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06-23-2015, 10:17 PM
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No one good enough in this country to build a gun or maybe there is no maker that can fill that order?sako is a very fine gun maker but it would be nice to make our own stuff.
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The design is by Sako/Tikka, production rights are to Colt Canada.
So in essence the rifle is being made in Canada.
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06-23-2015, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dick284
The design is by Sako/Tikka, production rights are to Colt Canada.
So in essence the rifle is being made in Canada.
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THANKS Right on.
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06-23-2015, 11:10 PM
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I think they are really nice but then again I'm a tika/sako fan.
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06-24-2015, 05:18 AM
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Artic armies don't carry bolt guns any more, why should the rangers. Armalite was .308 originally and many are sold that way today. Canada could buy SKS rifles at $50 a pop and they would be way ahead as many of the issued rifles are damaged beyond repair due to the harsh usage. Sako? Hah!
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06-24-2015, 05:26 AM
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I'll bet one of those will cost twice as much as a C7 but I guess the gubby doesn't want our first line of defence toting scary army guns.
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Never mind doesn't want- they aren't allowed! The C7/C8 family are prohibited weapons in Canada because they are assault rifles and have an automatic station on the selector lever. The Rangers are NOT members of the Canadian Forces. The rifles that they are being given are non-restricted for a reason- so they can take them home with them and wherever they go. Military weaponry are bound by a strict set of storage regulations by the CF. ALL weapons must be locked inside an alarmed, coded vault. Inside the vault the weapons are locked inside steel racks with abloy locks. The bolts have to be locked inside a separate locker behind another abloy lock. The keys for the racks are held either at the duty center or MP shack and those keys are inside another container locked with an abloy lock. Those regs defeat the purpose of having the Rangers with a rifle they can use whenever they want.
Second, 5.56mm is NOT a round that these guys want. The rifle is mainly used for hunting and defence from Polar Bears. The .308 is more than adequate for those purposes. 5.56mm- not so much
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06-24-2015, 05:30 AM
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Artic armies don't carry bolt guns any more, why should the rangers. Armalite was .308 originally and many are sold that way today. Canada could buy SKS rifles at $50 a pop and they would be way ahead as many of the issued rifles are damaged beyond repair due to the harsh usage. Sako? Hah!
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The Rangers aren't the Army!! Oh and the trials for these rifles were conducted by professional full time Infantry soldiers with input and participation from the Rangers in Arctic conditions so are you saying you know better than them?
Oh, and every professional army in the world still uses bolt guns! The Rangers mandate is NOT defence! It is presence, nothing more.
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06-24-2015, 05:31 AM
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plastic bolt shroud, I guess they don't know the effect of -50 on plastic
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I'm sure they do! The rifles was trialed in the arctic by the military with the rangers and is the one selected with input from both groups.
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06-24-2015, 06:47 AM
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Looks like a ruger scout rifle maybe should have looked in that direction too
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I thought the same thing - both good looking guns. Like Okotokian said, I thought Colt was in receivership, so not sure how this impacts the order/contract.
Question for the military guys - do these get a scope as well? How are they chosen?
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06-24-2015, 06:50 AM
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I'll bet one of those will cost twice as much as a C7 but I guess the gubby doesn't want our first line of defence toting scary army guns.
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Originally Posted by recce43
bolt action rifle us more reliable than gas operated weapons in extreme conditions. plus this rifle is to be used for hunting . 308 round
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And for defense against four legged and if need be two legged critters. Very capeable for the application.
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