Marijuana to be legalized in July next year...

[silverdoctor]

Originally Posted by nekred

Just to dispel a myth, You can overdose on THC and die.

Would love to read some research on that...


Other than that, you may think you're going to die - like the cop who confiscated/stole weed, made brownies for he and his wife and called 911

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnZb5wi_jsU

[DevilsAdvocate]

Originally Posted by Fur

They are not losing their number one industry, they are just able to collect taxes from it! Highly doubt those dealers were filing tax returns...

The money flowed eventually into legal/taxable hands when spent.
So they can now tax it directly...but BC had an large % of the industry and cash flow in from outside the province. In the new world order, the legal competition is going to be set up all over the country.......so BC's advantage is now gone and this industry will probably be dominated by big corporate dollars where its most economical.

And I can't see each province not wanting their own cut.....and that means they need their own producers to apply their own provincial taxes on it. BC will loose market share extremely fast with this change. What the balance of cashflows will show for BC is interesting....but I doubt it will be a true positive when considering the secondary spinoffs and spending and therefore taxes.

[BackPackHunter]

Originally Posted by Hooter

This is really my concern and viewpoint as well. Well said!!! As a parent I worry that my kids will want to try it (and it will be easy because it will be legal) and end up in a less fortunate spot than otherwise could have been. I worry for them and I'm not ashamed to admit it.

Do you have the same fear of beer or rum?

As parents I think the population relies on others to teach their kids

How many of you have had REAL talks about drugs, alcohol or sex?
Not just drugs are bad & reefer madness and not just illegal drugs but over the counter drugs also...
This is something that needs to happen at an earlier and earlier age.
It's not the same world you grew up in.

A huge problem lies in not being forthcoming, if you fill your kids head with information about how weed (or anything)will turn you into a drug feen whatever etc. then when they are older at a high school party and someone offers them a puff or a pill etc. some will just say no. Some will say the info you put into there head. Now we all have felt peer pressure.
"Don't be crazy this isn't going to turn you into a drug feen , just try it"
Now if they try it and hey nothing bad happened.
Now their wondering what else have my parents taught me that isn't 100%?
Doors start opening

Legal Weed isn't going to turn the next gen into a bunch of losers
Seems to me that was happening well before any legalization talk started.

The problem with weed and youth is that it makes being board ok, it gives them something to do when there not a lot happening. And without education about it and addiction it can snowball fast. When kids are board this is when the parents need to be involved, get them into sport or music or hunting , fishing , etc
Find there passion and grow it. Maybe they need detection because they're lost.

Ask them where they want their future to lead them , then figure out how to get there , I bet smoking pot everyday won't lead them there and they will see this .

Rant over

[HyperMOA]

Originally Posted by silverdoctor

Question for you, given a choice between your teen choosing weed or another street drug like meth, which would you prefer? No parent can stop their child from doing drugs, all you can do is educate and hope they make the right choices.


That said. how many parents are treating their ADHD children (for example) with strong pharma drugs? Adderall and Ritalin are good examples, both are now street drugs with an increasing addiction rate. Again, out of Isreal, it's looking like weed is an effective treatment.

But yet, weed is a terrible thing.

That depends, is the weed laced with something? In that case I'd rather they sat down and drank a box of beer.

I agree with you on Ritalin and the like. Its called parenting not medicating.

You missed the point of my post however. When I grew up more kids tried cigarettes than weed. If weed was legal I would wager the users would be a lot closer. That exposes more population to it. With increased exposure, is there increased risks?

Smoke all the weed you want, I don't care. Whether it is better than alcohol or not is not my concern. My concern is, now it makes it much easier, to start down that road while one is young and their mind is overly malleable and prone to pressures.

Others posting that dope is easier to get than beer or cigarettes is way off base. Somebody who says that, has a supply and knows where to get it. If I dropped you off in a random town, I bet I could acquire a pack of smokes and a case of beer quicker than you can score dope. I have never used weed and I know I can go get beer easier than it would be for me to go find some in Edmonton right now. If its legal, its easier to obtain. There is no debating that.

[HyperMOA]

Originally Posted by BackPackHunter

Do you have the same fear of beer or rum?

As parents I think the population relies on others to teach their kids

How many of you have had REAL talks about drugs, alcohol or sex?
Not just drugs are bad & reefer madness and not just illegal drugs but over the counter drugs also...
This is something that needs to happen at an earlier and earlier age.
It's not the same world you grew up in.

A huge problem lies in not being forthcoming, if you fill your kids head with information about how weed (or anything)will turn you into a drug feen whatever etc. then when they are older at a high school party and someone offers them a puff or a pill etc. some will just say no. Some will say the info you put into there head. Now we all have felt peer pressure.
"Don't be crazy this isn't going to turn you into a drug feen , just try it"
Now if they try it and hey nothing bad happened.
Now their wondering what else have my parents taught me that isn't 100%?
Doors start opening

Legal Weed isn't going to turn the next gen into a bunch of losers
Seems to me that was happening well before any legalization talk started.

The problem with weed and youth is that it makes being board ok, it gives them something to do when there not a lot happening. And without education about it and addiction it can snowball fast. When kids are board this is when the parents need to be involved, get them into sport or music or hunting , fishing , etc
Find there passion and grow it. Maybe they need detection because they're lost.

Ask them where they want their future to lead them , then figure out how to get there , I bet smoking pot everyday won't lead them there and they will see this .

Rant over

I agree with your post wholeheartedly. The problem is, I can't be fishing with them every minute, and as teens they will want independence and time with friends. At this age they just aren't ready to be making such decisions that have such lasting effects. So, in my opinion, the less exposure and risky chances they take, the better. That includes, alcohol, sex, weed, whatever. Weed is just one more ball to dodge if you will. Or one more of many obstacles to overcome.

As I have stated, I'm not opposed to legalizing it. I just have reservations about it. I truly believe the number of users will rise as a result. Do I think that will burn out the population, no. Do I think the population that has tried or used it will increase, yes.

[silverdoctor]

Originally Posted by HyperMOA

You missed the point of my post however. When I grew up more kids tried cigarettes than weed. If weed was legal I would wager the users would be a lot closer.

Yep, missed the point - and I fully agree with it.

There wasn't a whole lot of weed floating around when I was a teen - legal or not, we would have smoked it. Would it have kept me away from cigarettes? I really don't know... had access to oil and hash, but that was cut to heck anyway and we always rolled oil and hash with tobacco anyhow. Or knifed it.

I started smoking at 15 and kept at it for 30 years. Personally, I would rather a kid pick up a joint any day than try smoking cigarettes. It's the number one regret in my life, and it's on me, nobody else to blame but me.


Unfortunately, kids today have access to a much wider variety of drugs than we did - and the danger level is beyond what I would have been able to comprehend 30 or so years ago.

I don't remember anyone my age being addicted to anything, other than cigarettes - and there was no shortage of that. Drank alot of booze in those years, but was never an alcoholic.

[juancarlos]

Seems to me, that the ones who are scared or against it being legalized are the ones who obviously have never tried it.

Gateway drug ?
Yes, it is a gateway to the fridge and pantry.

Gateway to other drugs ?
No way,
As someone who, unfortunately can admit to doing other "hard drugs"
I've made those decisions when I was drunk,
If anything alcohol is more of a gateway drug than a little bit of the devils lettuce.

Your worrying about your kids trying it, then maybe instead of beating the point of drugs are bad they'll ruin your life, go with the education route,

Cause last I checked teens don't care about their parents opinions on what's good for them or not,
So don't make it an opinion, give them LEGITIMATE information, cause they'll be able to check up on it and trust their judgment to make the right choice.

Will they try it,
Probably,
Does it make it more accessible that it's legal?
Barely.
If they want to try it they'll try it no matter what

Just my 2¢

[silverdoctor]

I see stuff like this, and it breaks my heart. Dead at 16 years old, started using drugs at 12. Regular user of heroin and fentanyl.

The B.C. Coroners Service has confirmed 16-year-old Gwyn Kenny-Staddon died in a Port Moody Starbucks washroom from an accidental overdose of heroin and fentanyl.

Coroner Adele Lambert says toxicology tests found heroin, a lethal level of fentanyl and the anti-anxiety drug alprazolam, also known as Xanax.

The syringe located near her body was found to contain heroin, fentanyl, caffeine and trace amounts of cocaine.

In her report, Lambert outlines how school staff first became concerned about Kenny-Staddon in 2012 and contacted the Ministry of Children and Family Development about the girl's behaviour.

It was around the same time the then-12-year-old had started experimenting with drugs according to the report. By 2015, she was a regular user of heroin and fentanyl.

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/b...anyl-1.4038654

[JD848]

Originally Posted by BackPackHunter

Do you have the same fear of beer or rum?

As parents I think the population relies on others to teach their kids

How many of you have had REAL talks about drugs, alcohol or sex?
Not just drugs are bad & reefer madness and not just illegal drugs but over the counter drugs also...
This is something that needs to happen at an earlier and earlier age.
It's not the same world you grew up in.

A huge problem lies in not being forthcoming, if you fill your kids head with information about how weed (or anything)will turn you into a drug feen whatever etc. then when they are older at a high school party and someone offers them a puff or a pill etc. some will just say no. Some will say the info you put into there head. Now we all have felt peer pressure.
"Don't be crazy this isn't going to turn you into a drug feen , just try it"
Now if they try it and hey nothing bad happened.
Now their wondering what else have my parents taught me that isn't 100%?
Doors start opening

Legal Weed isn't going to turn the next gen into a bunch of losers
Seems to me that was happening well before any legalization talk started.

The problem with weed and youth is that it makes being board ok, it gives them something to do when there not a lot happening. And without education about it and addiction it can snowball fast. When kids are board this is when the parents need to be involved, get them into sport or music or hunting , fishing , etc
Find there passion and grow it. Maybe they need detection because they're lost.

Ask them where they want their future to lead them , then figure out how to get there , I bet smoking pot everyday won't lead them there and they will see this .

Rant over

What happens if his parents are to stoned to figure this out or the kid hides it till there's bigger proplems,not everyone can handle drugs and the ones that think they can most of the time try something harder to get high on,these ones all going down on fentanyl and on other crap started with a joint ,not that this will happen to all,but I work around stoned guys all day long and when they come down they need it or there day is mush in there head and we have urine testing and all,but buying some straight urine is easier than buying pot .
Why would you want your child to smoke up,there are other health issues involved ,like his lungs,accidents on the road,plus not all children have parents that get them involved in sports and hunting and such about 70 percent of parents can't afford all these things for there kids .
The the biggest question is why the need to get high if everyone is so in control because your and addict just like any other addict,gambling,booze hard drugs and many others forms of addiction,so legal or not that isn't the bottom line,addiction for your childis oka to you,really.rant over.

[Sundancefisher]

Originally Posted by silverdoctor

Question for you, given a choice between your teen choosing weed or another street drug like meth, which would you prefer? No parent can stop their child from doing drugs, all you can do is educate and hope they make the right choices.


That said. how many parents are treating their ADHD children (for example) with strong pharma drugs? Adderall and Ritalin are good examples, both are now street drugs with an increasing addiction rate. Again, out of Isreal, it's looking like weed is an effective treatment.

But yet, weed is a terrible thing.

Israel using CBD or THC?

That is the real difference. I absolutely don't see CBD and THC the same way. While you can use THC for some medical purposes...CBD doesn't make one high so is a no brainer.

One of the problems medical professionals are saying about current pot is that unlike in the 60's/70's you had pot with low concentrations of equal CBD and THC...today's pot is very high to extremely high (ie shatter) in THC and almost non existent for CBD in most common varieties.

[silverdoctor]

Originally Posted by JD848

What happens if his parents are to stoned to figure this out or the kid hides it till there's bigger proplems,not everyone can handle drugs and the ones that think they can most of the time try something harder to get high on,these ones all going down on fentanyl and on other crap started with a joint ,not that this will happen to all,but I work around stoned guys all day long and when they come down they need it or there day is mush in there head and we have urine testing and all,but buying some straight urine is easier than buying pot .
Why would you want your child to smoke up,there are other health issues involved ,like his lungs,accidents on the road,plus not all children have parents that get them involved in sports and hunting and such about 70 percent of parents can't afford all these things for there kids .
The the biggest question is why the need to get high if everyone is so in control because your and addict just like any other addict,gambling,booze hard drugs and many others forms of addiction,so legal or not that isn't the bottom line,addiction for your childis oka to you,really.rant over.

Is riding a bicycle a gateway to becoming a hells angel?

Have to agree with juancarlos, alcohol has caused more stupidity over the years than weed ever would. Back in the day if I was drunk and a toke was being passed around, I likely wouldn't care what was in it.

[silverdoctor]

Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

Israel using CBD or THC?

That is the real difference. I absolutely don't see CBD and THC the same way. While you can use THC for some medical purposes...CBD doesn't make one high so is a no brainer.

One of the problems medical professionals are saying about current pot is that unlike in the 60's/70's you had pot with low concentrations of equal CBD and THC...today's pot is very high to extremely high (ie shatter) in THC and almost non existent for CBD in most common varieties.

Bit of both actually... Do you not have access to google or any other search engine? There is some wonderful information out there, I love researching, really opens the mind.

They are also trying to treat autism with cannabis. You should check that out.

[BackPackHunter]

Originally Posted by JD848

What happens if his parents are to stoned to figure this out or the kid hides it till there's bigger proplems,not everyone can handle drugs and the ones that think they can most of the time try something harder to get high on,these ones all going down on fentanyl and on other crap started with a joint ,not that this will happen to all,but I work around stoned guys all day long and when they come down they need it or there day is mush in there head and we have urine testing and all,but buying some straight urine is easier than buying pot .
Why would you want your child to smoke up,there are other health issues involved ,like his lungs,accidents on the road,plus not all children have parents that get them involved in sports and hunting and such about 70 percent of parents can't afford all these things for there kids .
The the biggest question is why the need to get high if everyone is so in control because your and addict just like any other addict,gambling,booze hard drugs and many others forms of addiction,so legal or not that isn't the bottom line,addiction for your childis oka to you,really.rant over.

I'm not talk what if's . I'm saying look at yourself not about what others are doing
If the parent is to stoned to be involved, well we need people to work at wall mart too...
If the parents can't afford this stuff , then maybe some quiet reflecting on themselves is in order?
Did you have kids at an early age? Where you out smoking pot then and don't want the apple to fall close to the tree?
No one wants there kids to get involved with any deconstructive behavior
But from your post I can tell , you missed what my post was about , maybe some more education for you in reading comprehension?

[nekred]

Originally Posted by silverdoctor

Would love to read some research on that...


Other than that, you may think you're going to die - like the cop who confiscated/stole weed, made brownies for he and his wife and called 911

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnZb5wi_jsU

Then do a quick google search on THC overdose!....

[silverdoctor]

Originally Posted by nekred

Then do a quick google search on THC overdose!....

I can't find an article on anyone that has died as a direct result of smoking/injesting/vaping regular cannabis, that's why I'm asking you.

lots of cannabis related deaths, people doing stupid things when they are stoned... But that happens with booze too. No good stories started out with drinking water.

Even dogs get into their owners stash of brownies, overload on THC and they don't die. It's probably not the most pleasant experience for them but...

[Hooter]

Originally Posted by BackPackHunter

Do you have the same fear of beer or rum?

As parents I think the population relies on others to teach their kids

How many of you have had REAL talks about drugs, alcohol or sex?
Not just drugs are bad & reefer madness and not just illegal drugs but over the counter drugs also...
This is something that needs to happen at an earlier and earlier age.
It's not the same world you grew up in.

A huge problem lies in not being forthcoming, if you fill your kids head with information about how weed (or anything)will turn you into a drug feen whatever etc. then when they are older at a high school party and someone offers them a puff or a pill etc. some will just say no. Some will say the info you put into there head. Now we all have felt peer pressure.
"Don't be crazy this isn't going to turn you into a drug feen , just try it"
Now if they try it and hey nothing bad happened.
Now their wondering what else have my parents taught me that isn't 100%?
Doors start opening

Legal Weed isn't going to turn the next gen into a bunch of losers
Seems to me that was happening well before any legalization talk started.

The problem with weed and youth is that it makes being board ok, it gives them something to do when there not a lot happening. And without education about it and addiction it can snowball fast. When kids are board this is when the parents need to be involved, get them into sport or music or hunting , fishing , etc
Find there passion and grow it. Maybe they need detection because they're lost.

Ask them where they want their future to lead them , then figure out how to get there , I bet smoking pot everyday won't lead them there and they will see this .

Rant over

Unfortunately I do. I only want the best for my kids. I'm doing the best job I can as a parent to make sure my kids are respectful, kind, hard working and capable of making good choices. I have no doubt that they'll try a puff (as I did), but I hope they're educated enough to understand the consequences of "takin it to the next level" (ie hard drugs). I know I'm overly paranoid, and I know there will be some economic boost from the legalization of marijuana, but I can't help feel that this will be one more thing facing overly impressionable kids. I will admit that the thought of my kids drinking and becoming alcoholics scares me equally, if not more..... My wife said she would rather have our kids smoke weed than drink, and she might be right, but I'd rather they did neither. Realistic? No, I know that. I just need to convince myself.....

[Fisherpeak]

Originally Posted by silverdoctor

Is riding a bicycle a gateway to becoming a hells angel?

Have to agree with juancarlos, alcohol has caused more stupidity over the years than weed ever would. Back in the day if I was drunk and a toke was being passed around, I likely wouldn't care what was in it.

True, alcohol makes some people bat sh!t crazy. Never saw a bunch of stoned people fighting or beating their spouses. A bit of the weed is good for your appitite too.
Water will kill you if you drink too much. Relax, it ain`t the Devils plant. And this ain`t the `50`s either. Although I heard weed leads to Rock and Roll and that leads to dancing and ,well, we all know what THAT leads to.

[Ricki Bobby]

Hoooooooooommmmmmmme

[Little red riding hood]

Originally Posted by denied access

I bet your social calendar is full to bursting

Never could quite understand that, why so many people think they need drugs or alcohol to have a good time, I find it impairs my ability to tell the difference between a 4 point or a 6 point elk, not to mention, ever since that fateful Christmas eve back in '96, ole st nick bypasses our little trailer, (guess he don't trust me around ole rudy) and it's hard to convince the fish cops that my walleye must have shrunk after I got him in the boat, cuz he was big enough when I measured him a half an hour ago!

[gunluvr]

Originally Posted by huntingaddict

Thanks moderator. For deleting my opinion again seem everyone else is a aloud there's must be a pot head. Done with this useless site.

You need to take a puff and relax.

[MallardMan]

Originally Posted by LKILR

There is a lot of ignorance in this post. I know a hundred people that use MJ that haven't and don't use other drugs.

I know at least a hundred who don't feel the need to get baked out of their mind to get the workday going. For those with ptsd and medical issues it is already legal. I don't drink to get drunk daily to cope with life and I don't agree with legalising weed. How many of these hundred people drive to and from work half stoned every day... I would argue most people who smoke, do it daily and although it isn't physically addictive, it certainly is something they rely on to function.

[Weedy1]

Originally Posted by bigskinner

l sit back and watch everyone argue about it ,while l make money from it.
l don't use it ,but l bought stock in it 2 yrs ago just before Trudeau said he was going to legalize it , figured if that happens , the stock should be the next Bre-x , sure enough , l bought it for $2.25 a share now its at $12.00 a share , word is , after its legalized ,skys the limit.

Don't count on it. Take your money and run or make sure you have a good stop on your stock. What from here on in do you think will drive the price any higher besides stupidity? The July 1 2018 legalization announcement the other day barely made the price move. I doubt legalization will move it anymore. Its basically been flat since November when everybody and their dog jumped in. I'd say get out while the dumb are still dumb and before the bubble bursts. But then again I sold Shopify when it was $87.50

I love your comparison to Bre-X BTW.

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[Red Bullets]

Originally Posted by Don_Parsons

I ain't no angel nor claim too be.

I had my stint on that side of the tracks, and it was OK, but family, friends, funds, and life style all have factors that lead us where we want too be for the latter parts in years.

So one day I woke up too enjoy life sober so I could take life on full bore. My sober pumpkin deals with ideas "the puzzles in life" with no restrictions.

Hey, this works for me, but its up to others what works for them.

Getting my self act together has allowed me too have funds for traveling, quading, sleds back in the day, camping, food, Harvesting, fishing, and many other out door activities as this is my new drug of choice.

Yes that life comes with bags of crap that is hard for folks to deal with at times, "up too each too find what works."

I'll take on life sober as my noodle works best at life's puzzle. Lucky I guess.

Funds saved too do things, buy stuff related to out doors, gas to get there, and a life worth living with funds saved for my retirement years "hopefully."

Find your path of where one wants to be in 10 or 60 years from now, set up the game plan too get there.
Aline funds and life too hit those goals so one can enjoy more time off, travel, Harvesting, fishing, camping and relaxing.

Really, addictions are masks for us to relax, cut stresses, issues in life, purhaps looking at it from other angles "sober" might be an option.

Just a bit of what works for others and my self as we have options of what works for us.

Been living life gooder for 10 ish + years, the sun shines it's brightest when nothing blocks the view.

Might take a year or 2 too get there, but when it happens one will think back too this post, and remember how bright that sun can be from the top of the Mountains of Alberta and BC.

PS: It might be cloudy and raining out side, but the sun light is always turn on in one mind if we choose to except it this way.

Don

"If the mind is not contrived, it is spontaneously blissful, just as water, when not agitated, is by nature...transparent and clear".” ― Sogyal Rinpoche

[Red Bullets]

Before Canada can legalize anything Canada will have to convince the countries involved in three international conventions to amend Canada's stance in those treaties/documents.

-The Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs of 1961, as amended by the 1972 Protocol;
-The Convention on Psychotropic Substances of 1971;
-The United Nations Convention against Illicit Traffic in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances of 1988.


Personally, I would sooner deal with potheads than drunks. Alcohol should require a prescription for medicinal purposes only.

[HVA7mm]

Thank god, maybe I won't have to continue hearing from the zealots how wonderful it is, how it should have never been illegal, not addictive, no adverse effects on health etc. That being said, it being legal or illegal for that matter has no bearing on me, as I'm not a user/proponent, nor do I plan to be. Legalization vs decriminalization may bring in some added tax dollars, and I honestly can't see a huge increase in usage due to it being legal. There will always be people with addictive tendencies,no matter what their poison is. Prohibition of MJ has obviously not worked too well, imagine that. I would however, be much more interested in seeing the cultivation of hemp becoming more prevalent (biofuels, textiles, paper, etc.)

[sikwhiskey]

Can't come soon enough, and no I don't smoke that crap. 100years of a banned renewable resource. A complete food, oil better for you than olive. Amazing fiber...think building materials. 100 years of BS so some turds private forest/ paper press would increase in value. And before that the govt would subsidize the farming of it. What a joke. One of the most useful plants to humans banned for someone else's gain. Luckily, thanks to the "dopers" growing it, many of the strains are still around, untouched by Monsanto.
Most likely turdo2.0 will only legalize the smoking of it, not full scale uninhibited farming of it. Strangely enough, farming it wholesale would ruin a lot of the Prefured "smokable" stuff. Even indoors if air wasn't properly filtered.
I haven't read the whole 7pages of posts, read a few, do you guys actually think the government gives a rats butt about your health? Serious question.

[bigskinner]

Originally Posted by Weedy1

Don't count on it. Take your money and run or make sure you have a good stop on your stock. What from here on in do you think will drive the price any higher besides stupidity? The July 1 2018 legalization announcement the other day barely made the price move. I doubt legalization will move it anymore. Its basically been flat since November when everybody and their dog jumped in. I'd say get out while the dumb are still dumb and before the bubble bursts. But then again I sold Shopify when it was $87.50

I love your comparison to Bre-X BTW.

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Not legalized yet , that was just an announcement that it will be next year , and yes my stock did move up because of that announcement 10%.
As being compared to bre -x , it WILL happen.
Since November when it went to 15 bucks a share ,all the dumbies sold , that was a mistake and the shares went down , no problem , that's what happens when people sell shares all at the same time , the secret in buying and selling good stock is when to sell.
Marijuana stock will reach its peak 5 months after its legalized , by then it should should go to 40 or 50 bucks a share , then that's the time to cash in , NOT before its officially legalized,

[Saltmania]

I'm surprised to read so many vehemently opposed.

I don't see the downside.

This takes away the influence and power of organized crime, increases tax revenue, and makes it more difficult for minors to access.

Marijuana is already so available and ubiquitous and the social cost is so low that it makes no sense to waste money on prohibition and enforcement.

To those staunch opponents: large numbers of leaders, entrepreneurs, community builders, and people you would identify as role models are already using marijuana even though it's illegal.

If you were really interested in banning the substances that destroy lives and families you would be protesting alcohol and tobacco.

[Talking moose]

Originally Posted by Saltmania

I'm surprised to read so many vehemently opposed.

I don't see the downside.

This takes away the influence and power of organized crime, increases tax revenue, and makes it more difficult for minors to access.

Marijuana is already so available and ubiquitous and the social cost is so low that it makes no sense to waste money on prohibition and enforcement.

To those staunch opponents: large numbers of leaders, entrepreneurs, community builders, and people you would identify as role models are already using marijuana even though it's illegal.

If you were really interested in banning the substances that destroy lives and families you would be protesting alcohol and tobacco.

Yup.

[LKILR]

Originally Posted by MallardMan

I know at least a hundred who don't feel the need to get baked out of their mind to get the workday going. For those with ptsd and medical issues it is already legal. I don't drink to get drunk daily to cope with life and I don't agree with legalising weed. How many of these hundred people drive to and from work half stoned every day... I would argue most people who smoke, do it daily and although it isn't physically addictive, it certainly is something they rely on to function.

Again more ignorance. Some types of MJ do not make a person "baked out of their mind" or "half stoned". You sir are dead set against some thing you know very little about. This is Ignorance