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03-11-2010, 02:41 PM
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Zeiss Conquest or VX-3 for 338 WM
I am purchasing a Sako 85 338 WM and am trying to decide whether to buy a Leupold VX-3 with the B&C reticle or something from the Zeiss Conquest series. Perhaps something from the Rapid Z series as I prefer to have some sort of bullet drop compensator. All thoughts and opinions welcomed.
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03-11-2010, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Hunter
I am purchasing a Sako 85 338 WM and am trying to decide whether to buy a Leupold VX-3 with the B&C reticle or something from the Zeiss Conquest series. Perhaps something from the Rapid Z series as I prefer to have some sort of bullet drop compensator. All thoughts and opinions welcomed.
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03-11-2010, 02:55 PM
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I was always partial to leupold, but I tried a zeiss conquest with the rapid z reticle this year and I'm impressed with the clarity. Pending any problems I don't think I'll go back.
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03-11-2010, 03:27 PM
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The Rapid Z 600 would be perfect.
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03-11-2010, 03:35 PM
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The Leupold may have beter eye relief. I own a 338wm on a Tikka 658.I use Leupold for that reason,They have a bit of recoil to consider. Both are awsome optics though.
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03-11-2010, 05:19 PM
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If your into the ballistic drop compensator reticle's the rapid z is better than the b and c on the leopold. I have a vx-3 and love it. Zeiss has very nice glass but i still went with leopold for the turrets. Ether will be nice. good luck.
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03-11-2010, 05:25 PM
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I would get the leupold for 2 reasons the price and the warranty is right here in Alberta
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03-11-2010, 07:12 PM
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Zeiss all the way.Put one on my .257 accumark very happy with it. I went with the Z 800 and when you use the proper reticle for that distance it is right on. Use the Zeiss reticle program on their website it figures everything out for you. Yup, the glass clarity is awesome.
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03-11-2010, 07:19 PM
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03-11-2010, 08:48 PM
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Most don't consider the338wm to be an 600-800yd rifle . Not that it isn't capable of it but you may as well use a mortar.If you don't intend to shoot much beyond 300yds you don't need a ballistic reticle.Just sight in 3" high @ 100yds and hold dead on out to 275yds.(depending on load)
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03-12-2010, 08:28 AM
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I'm actually in the market for a scope for my 338wm as well.
I like the idea of the BDC reticle but I find the B&C and Rapid-Z too "busy".
I'm actually pretty partial to the Leupold LR duplex but it's only available on the VX-II's. You might be able to get it installed on a VX-III at Korths.
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03-12-2010, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Mad_Mikee
I'm actually in the market for a scope for my 338wm as well.
I like the idea of the BDC reticle but I find the B&C and Rapid-Z too "busy".
I'm actually pretty partial to the Leupold LR duplex but it's only available on the VX-II's. You might be able to get it installed on a VX-III at Korths.
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The ballistic reticles can seem a bit busy at first but you get used to them very quickly and then it seems strange to shoot without one. One thing with balistic reticles though is that's it's imperative that you can actually focus the reticle to your eye.
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03-12-2010, 11:13 AM
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In my continuing research, it does seem as though the Zeiss Conquest with the Rapid Z does have an edge in clarity, but the new VX-3 (not VXIII) really is quite close to the Zeiss. Just read an article by Chuck Hawks who raved about the VX-3.
http://www.chuckhawks.com/leupold_VX-3_2-8x36.htm
I have had the VXIII 2.5-8X36 before on a previous 338 WM and I may just buy one again for this Sako rifle, but with the Boone & Crockett reticle. I realize a 338 WM is not a long range calibre, but if conditions are right, it is capable of successful/ethical shots in excess of 400 yards....and although the B&C reticle may not be as sophisticated as the Rapid Z, it still definitely can't hurt. Especially since I will use it in conjunction with my Leica 1200 Range Finder. I also just love the look of the Leupold......it is still my favorite looking scope.
Thanks for the replies.
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03-12-2010, 12:00 PM
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I have had the VXIII 2.5-8X36 before on a previous 338 WM and I may just buy one again for this Sako rifle, but with the Boone & Crockett reticle. I realize a 338 WM is not a long range calibre, but if conditions are right, it is capable of successful/ethical shots in excess of 400 yards....and although the B&C reticle may not be as sophisticated as the Rapid Z, it still definitely can't hurt. Especially since I will use it in conjunction with my Leica 1200 Range Finder. I also just love the look of the Leupold......it is still my favorite looking scope.
Thanks for the replies.[/QUOTE]
In my opinion, this (VX 3 - 2.5-8x) is the absolute perfect scope for the .338 Win and most hunting rifles. The overall size, magnification range, and clarity is ideal. Though, I prefer the standard duplex in this scope, myself. I could get by with 2 scopes, really. The other "perfect" scope from Leupold is the 1.5- 5X with a German #4 reticle, for the "big stuff"!
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03-12-2010, 12:26 PM
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Thanks 3DShooter. Is there something about the Boone & Crockett Reticle in particular that you don't like? Or do you just feel it is not necessary?
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03-12-2010, 12:38 PM
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Thanks 3DShooter. Is there something about the Boone & Crockett Reticle in particular that you don't like? Or do you just feel it is not necessary?
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Nothing more than personal preference.
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03-12-2010, 04:55 PM
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[/QUOTE]In my opinion, this (VX 3 - 2.5-8x) is the absolute perfect scope for the .338 Win and most hunting rifles. The overall size, magnification range, and clarity is ideal. Though, I prefer the standard duplex in this scope, myself. I could get by with 2 scopes, really. The other "perfect" scope from Leupold is the 1.5- 5X with a German #4 reticle, for the "big stuff"![/QUOTE]
I agree, but I'll also add a Fixed 4 from leupy, but my fave for sure is the 2.5-8.
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