SKS sales @ Canadian Tire frozen

[Pioneer2]

http://i.imgur.com/DJxAVus.jpg

[DiabeticKripple]

Yup a memo went out to all Canadian Tire stores saying to discontinue sales of the SKS and to send all orders back to North Sylva.

Likely has to do with what’s happening in the US and the gun control rumours in Canada.

Are the Libs looking at prohibiting the SKS?

[barsik]

rumor is circulating that any centerfire semiauto rifle with a detachable magazine is going to be reassigned as restricted. my own feeling is this is most likely the first step that the Lieberals are going to take in order to round up all the scary semiauto guns before they confiscate them. in Australia, the government got an estimated 30-35% of all the semiautos, because most owners wouldn't comply.

[tikka250]

So what's fma?

[Nyksta]

Originally Posted by barsik

rumor is circulating that any centerfire semiauto rifle with a detachable magazine is going to be reassigned as restricted. my own feeling is this is most likely the first step that the Lieberals are going to take in order to round up all the scary semiauto guns before they confiscate them. in Australia, the government got an estimated 30-35% of all the semiautos, because most owners wouldn't comply.

Are you starting this rumor? Where is your info of all semi going restricred?

[3blade]

Look at the details. This has nothing to do with the operation of the guns if tapco is being banned as well.

[DiabeticKripple]

Originally Posted by 3blade

Look at the details. This has nothing to do with the operation of the guns if tapco is being banned as well.

It’s the model that they put in the tapco stocks so it’s still an SKS.

Basically any model that goes bang is coming off their shelves.

[3blade]

Originally Posted by DiabeticKripple

It’s the model that they put in the tapco stocks so it’s still an SKS.

Basically any model that goes bang is coming off their shelves.

I mean the accessories. If they had a problem with the operation of the guns, or simply decided not to carry them, they would still sell off their accessories. The fact that they aren't means it's a govt policy change.

[Yellow Dog]

If you want the facts and a way to voice your opinion then contact the two reps listed at the bottom of the memo! Just maybe getting a lot of negative feedback will change the outcome!!
Realize that 1 person still owns a majority of the shares and has total voting control - and she is not gun friendly!!

[1Heavyhitr]

Are you serious. Get you pen and paper ready people.

[Newview01]

It would not surprise me if Trudeau / Goodale tried to ban all semi-autos. First. Then moved on to the next category.

In Australia did they not deem pump action rifles too dangerous?

The new regs will come thick and fast.

[bat119]

I asked on an Aussy forum what actually happened with their gun laws:

Category A - manual action rimfires, breach /lever action shotguns
Cat B - manual action center fire rifles
most shooters have both category A/B licenses, most states are restricted to 10 rounds on a detachable magazine
Cat C - semi auto rimfire rifles (upto 10 rounds) semi auto/pump action shotguns (upto 5 rounds)
Category C is generally only for farmers who need to protect their stock or crops from wild animals
Cat D - semi auto centerfires, rimfires (above 10 rounds) pump/semi shotguns (above 5 rounds)
Category D is highly restricted, it is reserved for those who rely on a semi automatic for their job, or income
I'd estimate less than 1% of shooters have a cat D

Well bat119, by now you probably have a fairly good idea regarding the nuts & bolts of our gunlaws here however I will add one or two things seeing as you expressed interest/concern as to how Australia's gunlaws could be applied in the Canadian context. As you probably know, after a growing campaign by the anti-gun campaigners over the preceding decade a shooting event occurred in 1996 that acted as the catalyst for the Federal Government to seize the moment and seek to introduce draconian gunlaws, however one important obstacle stood in their way.

Gunlaws in this country are (and always have been) the responsibility of the individual States & Territories in the federation and as such the Federal Government could not simply take over and dictate to the entire country on the matter, and thus the NFA (National firearms Agreement) was born. Essentially, the Federal government produced a piece of firearms legislation and then got each individual State and Territory to sign off on it (using coercion, bribes and eventually outright threats to ensure that everyone complied) and agree to alter their State-based firearms legislation to reflect the core pillars of the NFA (universal licencing and compulsory registration of all firearms, categorisation of firearms into individual classes ie A/B/C/D/H/R, universal safe-storage requirements including recording the physical storage location of each & every firearm, genuine-reason requirement for each licence class, etc).

Once this new NFA system was in place the Federal Government was then able to proceed with their "buyback" since many firearm owners could no longer comply with either basic licencing/storage requirements or could not qualify for any of the "genuine-reasons" now required to possess many commonly-owned types of firearms such as pump/semi-auto shotguns and semi-auto rimfire & centrefire rifles. The reason of course why the voluntary "buy-back" scheme (with it's fairly generous remuneration rates being paid) was even required was because longarm registration prior to the NFA was either limited or even non-existent in many States and thus the authorities had no mechanism in place (ie: universal firearm registries and up-to-date records of firearm storage locations) that they could use to force compliance and enact confiscations in cases where people refused to voluntarily hand-in their newly-illegal firearms.

There is currently talk here of new restrictions coming in as the result of a review of the NFA which could see certain types of firearms and/or magazine capacities currently classified as A/B being moved up to the more restricted categories and accompanying discussion amongst shooters about whether the powers-that-be will even bother with a generous "buyback" scheme this time, owing to the fact that these firearms are now all registered and their owners & storage locations known, enabling simple and rapid confiscation to occur. In other words, compliance with new bans and restrictions can now be forced upon shooters whilst back in the day it needed to be coerced from them; big difference.

I know nothing of either the existing Canadian gunlaws nor the system & organisation of government over there so have no opinion myself on how enacting Australian-type gunlaws would translate to the Canadian situation, however I would suggest that the first thing your new liberal government would need to do to even have a chance at replicating anything we have here would be to re-introduce the longarms registry which the former conservative government there wisely disbanded. Any new talk of re-establishing a longarms registry over there should immediately start alarm-bells ringing amongst the shooting community as it could be an ominous sign of things to come and believe me, you DO NOT want to go down the same route that we have here.

https://shootingaustralia.net/forum/...s?limitstart=0

[fish_e_o]

You guys can have all the conspiracy theories you want, They're probably stopping the sale of them because they suck and they get complaints.

[DiabeticKripple]

Originally Posted by fish_e_o

You guys can have all the conspiracy theories you want, They're probably stopping the sale of them because they suck and they get complaints.

SKS’s are awesome.

[Dweb]

Originally Posted by fish_e_o

You guys can have all the conspiracy theories you want, They're probably stopping the sale of them because they suck and they get complaints.

200$ for a semi auto center fire. They fly off shelves like **** through a goose , I highly doubt they put a stop on sales because "they suck"

[EZM]

Originally Posted by fish_e_o

You guys can have all the conspiracy theories you want, They're probably stopping the sale of them because they suck and they get complaints.

Nobody is going to tell you a SKS is a quality precision rifle on here .... but they are allot of fun for allot of people.

Yeah they are junky and cheap but not everyone wants to drop 2 grand on a decent AR platform.

[Pioneer2]

The one I sold to Mike from Canmore had no issues hitting claybirds with irons at 100 yards.No............. not airborne.

[Husty]

Originally Posted by Pioneer2

The one I sold to Mike from Canmore had no issues hitting claybirds with irons at 100 yards.No............. not airborne.

Yeah and the 2 that i used to own shoot 12" groups at 100 yards.

[West O'5]

wooohooo....I think my SKS just tripled in value!
Unfired since import/still in Cosmoline,bought at CanTire Oct.20/15 (day after Fed election) because I still could.
SKS "Supergrade"(all matching serial #s),comes with 4 leather ammo pouches,cleaning kit,20 stripper clips,1500 rounds.....$1500 obo lol 😝

[Husty]

Originally Posted by West O'5

wooohooo....I think my SKS just tripled in value!
Unfired since import/still in Cosmoline,bought at CanTire Oct.20/15 (day after Fed election) because I still could.
SKS "Supergrade"(all matching serial #s),comes with 4 leather ammo pouches,cleaning kit,20 stripper clips,1500 rounds.....$1500 obo lol 😝

Dont laugh.. Could happen. Bought my svt40 for 200 dollars could probably get 500+ for it now. People really like russian military surplus.

[Pioneer2]

Try $ 800 for an SVT40 and $1600 in the US.

[Pioneer2]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manito...-end-1.4355850

[223MB]

Picking up two more today "justin" case.

[Newview01]

Originally Posted by 223MB

Picking up two more today "justin" case.

lol

[Eastgoeswest]

Originally Posted by 223MB

Picking up two more today "justin" case.

That was great haha.

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[1Heavyhitr]

Originally Posted by Pioneer2

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manito...-end-1.4355850

That's a little too ironic isn't it?

[Pioneer2]

I don't believe in coincidence much,but not shocked by CBC helping the Liberal cause.After all they may need another bailout pkg.No need to mention the gangs in Winnipeg. Harold

[fish_e_o]

i just talked to someone in the know and they said that there is a good chance SKS rifles are going to go prohibited.

he said it had something to do with this http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/b...114-89-eng.htm

[qwert]

Originally Posted by fish_e_o

i just talked to someone in the know and they said that there is a good chance SKS rifles are going to go prohibited.

he said it had something to do with this http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/b...114-89-eng.htm

details here, note same Nov 2014 date
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/r...ection-eng.htm

"3. The full automatic fire issue addressed by this protocol is caused by deficiencies in the trigger mechanism and is not related to previously reported instances caused by hardened grease or other foreign materials embedded in the bolt and interfering with the free movement of the firing pin."

The sales freeze by CT may be due to due diligence and an abundance of caution, regarding the training, qualification, and ability of store clerks to perform the required inspection.
However, I note that the freeze also applies to Chinese manufactured clones.

Good Luck, YMMV.

[bat119]

Originally Posted by fish_e_o

i just talked to someone in the know and they said that there is a good chance SKS rifles are going to go prohibited.

he said it had something to do with this http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/b...114-89-eng.htm

Issue
A non-restricted Russian SKS carbine has been found to discharge in a full automatic manner, raising public safety concerns.
Background
The firearm was purchased in Ontario by an individual who turned it in to the police of jurisdiction following discovery that it fires in automatic mode; the situation was subsequently brought to the attention of the Chief Firearms Officer (CFO) of Ontario. The RCMP Canadian Firearms Program (CFP) has since provided technical support. The CFP examined and tested the non-restricted Russian SKS carbine in question and uncovered several safety concerns:
It fires in automatic mode only (there is no semi-automatic mode).
The firearm is prone to discharge unintentionally.
The firearm can be fired by simply releasing the cocking handle.
It does not include a functional safety mechanism.
The CFP also examined 20 other samples of the same non-restricted Russian SKS carbine and found that they operated in a semi-automatic fashion only.