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Old 07-31-2019, 03:52 PM
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They go on sale tomorrow, surprised no one is talking about them.

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Old 07-31-2019, 03:57 PM
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I'm waiting for the musk ox tags

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Old 07-31-2019, 04:04 PM
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I'm waiting for the musk ox tags

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I'm going to exercise my rights as a taxpaying citizen for many years and go tagless. I need the sustenance and subsistence.
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Old 07-31-2019, 04:04 PM
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Over 700 undersubscribed antlered moose...
Something is not right here..

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Old 07-31-2019, 04:42 PM
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Over 700 undersubscribed antlered moose...
Something is not right here..

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Unregulated harvest reports must not have made it to the office I guess.
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Old 07-31-2019, 04:49 PM
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Unregulated harvest reports must not have made it to the office I guess.
Not only that, but in many of those zones a waiting time to draw a bull moose is 4-6 years usually . And here anyone who will hit the computer button first ,will get it..
It must be some kind of mistake here.

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Old 07-31-2019, 05:05 PM
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Not only that, but in many of those zones a waiting time to draw a bull moose is 4-6 years usually . And here anyone who will hit the computer button first ,will get it..
It must be some kind of mistake here.

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Which zones got the best most hunting from the undersub? lol
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Old 07-31-2019, 05:17 PM
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Which zones got the best most hunting from the undersub? lol
Eastern zones bordering with Saskatchewan I believe, with CWD issues for the antlerless mule , GP area late season for antlerless elk ,some others, but I've never seen bull moose undescribed in a zones mentioned on the list ,especially in such big numbers.

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Old 07-31-2019, 06:26 PM
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Not only that, but in many of those zones a waiting time to draw a bull moose is 4-6 years usually . And here anyone who will hit the computer button first ,will get it..
It must be some kind of mistake here.

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Most of those zones aren’t even listed in the draw reports for 2018 or the current season. Nowhere do I see any of those zones needing any priority to draw an antlered moose tag the last two seasons. The one zone that was listed was 100% draw success. If they don’t show up in the draw summary, I would assume nobody applied for those zones at all and everyone just waits to buy the undersubscribed.
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Old 07-31-2019, 06:47 PM
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Most of those zones aren’t even listed in the draw reports for 2018 or the current season. Nowhere do I see any of those zones needing any priority to draw an antlered moose tag the last two seasons. The one zone that was listed was 100% draw success. If they don’t show up in the draw summary, I would assume nobody applied for those zones at all and everyone just waits to buy the undersubscribed.
I'll not argue with you.
Apply, get your tag and good luck with your hunting.

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Old 07-31-2019, 08:13 PM
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Not only that, but in many of those zones a waiting time to draw a bull moose is 4-6 years usually . And here anyone who will hit the computer button first ,will get it..
It must be some kind of mistake here.

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The only way that there are undersubscribed tags in a given wmu/time, is if every single person that applied for that tag drew a tag. It's not like someone waited years to draw, and didn't get a tag this year.
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Old 07-31-2019, 08:18 PM
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Most of those zones aren’t even listed in the draw reports for 2018 or the current season. Nowhere do I see any of those zones needing any priority to draw an antlered moose tag the last two seasons. The one zone that was listed was 100% draw success. If they don’t show up in the draw summary, I would assume nobody applied for those zones at all and everyone just waits to buy the undersubscribed.
Bingo
That’s the way it works
All those moose zones are in the sticks
Zero priority gets the tag
Just needed to apply
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Old 07-31-2019, 08:30 PM
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Bingo
That’s the way it works
All those moose zones are in the sticks
Zero priority gets the tag
Just needed to apply
Yep. No need to apply when you can just grab undersubscribed.

Just don’t be like the guy a few years ago complaining that his group missed out on the undersubscribed rush and wouldn’t be able to do their annual fly in moose hunt. If they’d really wanted the tags, they could’ve applied for them.
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Old 07-31-2019, 08:35 PM
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I agree, I hate to waste a priority on a moose but in 532 with all the Joeys getting Undersubscribed without looking at a map, means a fella could miss out on his fly in hunt because he didn't put in.
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Old 07-31-2019, 08:41 PM
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The only way that there are undersubscribed tags in a given wmu/time, is if every single person that applied for that tag drew a tag. It's not like someone waited years to draw, and didn't get a tag this year.
I am not sure how the system works , but my son got his draw in 520 last year and it was 4 or 5 years waiting time ,but it was an early season.
That's why when I see 150 licences in this zone for the late season, without any waiting time it did not make any sense to me.

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Old 07-31-2019, 08:52 PM
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I am not sure how the system works , but my son got his draw in 520 last year and it was 4 or 5 years waiting time ,but it was an early season.
That's why when I see 150 licences in this zone for the late season, without any waiting time it did not make any sense to me.

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The answer is simple, far fewer people apply for the late season, so there are tags left over for that season.
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Old 07-31-2019, 09:08 PM
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The answer is simple, far fewer people apply for the late season, so there are tags left over for that season.
and anyone with a bit of knowledge do not waste his time in 520
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Old 07-31-2019, 09:10 PM
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The amount of under subscribed tags could also be a reflection of the economy. A hunting camp isn't cheap the way the today's hunters do it.
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Old 07-31-2019, 09:14 PM
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and anyone with a bit of knowledge do not waste his time in 520
And a few other WMU's too.
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Old 07-31-2019, 09:47 PM
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and anyone with a bit of knowledge do not waste his time in 520
I am with you on that one, and not only in that zone.
That's why i'll spend more time hunting in BC this year then in Alberta.

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Old 07-31-2019, 09:51 PM
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The answer is simple, far fewer people apply for the late season, so there are tags left over for that season.
150 tags sounds like a pretty big left over to me, even if its a late season.
But I got your point.

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Old 07-31-2019, 10:11 PM
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150 tags sounds like a pretty big left over to me, even if its a late season.
But I got your point.

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The rut is over, so the success rate is lower, so they give out more tags.
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Old 07-31-2019, 11:04 PM
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So there is no moose in 520?

Go figure how they allocate the number of tags. When I started hunting (not that long ago) and since, 527 had undersubscribed tags for antlerless mule deer every year until last year. And they had plenty of them (can’t recall exactly but definitely way over a hundred if not over two). I don’t believe they ever sold out while I have been following. Two years ago I bought my tag in November, I believe, the last year the undersubscribed tags were available. Last year there were non. And neither this year. I haven’t noticed a decrease in population, but of course I only hunt a tiny portion of the WMU.
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Old 08-01-2019, 12:40 AM
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I am not sure how the system works , but my son got his draw in 520 last year and it was 4 or 5 years waiting time ,but it was an early season.
That's why when I see 150 licences in this zone for the late season, without any waiting time it did not make any sense to me.

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I apologize. I didn’t scroll through the draw report far enough. Looks like it did indeed take some priority points to draw an early season antlered moose tag in 520 both this season and last. However in the late season 100% of applicants were drawn for 50 tags with a remaining 150 left over this year.

Looks like they upped the antlered moose tags in 520 by 50 in both the early and late seasons.
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Old 08-01-2019, 05:42 AM
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And yet there's still people on this forum that bitch there's limited hunting opportunity!
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Old 08-01-2019, 05:57 AM
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And yet there's still people on this forum that bitch there's limited hunting opportunity!
There is very limited opportunity for certain species, and in certain areas.
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Old 08-01-2019, 06:24 AM
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There is very limited opportunity for certain species, and in certain areas.
Well from what I see on the list there's opportunity for moose, elk, mule deer, and whitetail deer. That's a pretty good variety of game animals.
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Old 08-01-2019, 07:04 AM
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It says you need a blank tag to purchase an undersubscribed tag. Does this mean you need the blank when you apply today? Thanks for any advise
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Old 08-01-2019, 07:06 AM
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It says you need a blank tag to purchase an undersubscribed tag. Does this mean you need the blank when you apply today? Thanks for any advise
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Old 08-01-2019, 07:09 AM
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I apologize. I didn’t scroll through the draw report far enough. Looks like it did indeed take some priority points to draw an early season antlered moose tag in 520 both this season and last. However in the late season 100% of applicants were drawn for 50 tags with a remaining 150 left over this year.

Looks like they upped the antlered moose tags in 520 by 50 in both the early and late seasons.
It's all good!
Looks like they are just issuing those tags without thinking of what they are doing.
150 left over tags heh!
520 its all pretty much a private land and farmers by the late season already got tired of hunters seeking permission .
And it is not such a great zone for a moose anyways, especially in the late season.
We could not get our moose in a prime rut season last year by the way, and we hunted private land .
I like hunting GP area all those 300s and 500s zones but with a bow in the early season.
On September 17th those zones are turned in to a ZOO .
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Not for me .

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