Berger Target vs Berger Hunting

[dkrhome]

Be careful, I don't think a 260 is enough gun for game past a 100 yards :P




Yes I am kidding

[Browning Sharpsh00ter]

Originally Posted by Sir Rollo

I've used the 90 grain Berger match bullet with my .243 Win, and the weight retention was poor, the recovered bullet was 30 grains. It did imact bone, and left an incredible wound channel. The bullet(what was left of it) was under the hide on the far side. I should add, it was a beaver that I shot with the match bullet. For my game, I will be using copper bullets.

Just to update u. Berger hunting Vld's are not meant to retain weight. Check out thier website. This Bullet is meant to travel 2-3 inches and shrapnel leaving total distruction..I shot my WT buck last year with 130 gr hunting vld's out of my 270wsm, perfect shot placement @ 100yrds = a nice WT buck that dropped in it's tracks..all I will say is u don't need a exit hole to leave a blood trail to follow because they don't run after being hit ethicly with a Berger. Iam going to give them a try on elk this coming season..

[Sir Rollo]

Originally Posted by Browning Sharpsh00ter

Just to update u. Berger hunting Vld's are not meant to retain weight. Check out thier website. This Bullet is meant to travel 2-3 inches and shrapnel leaving total distruction..I shot my WT buck last year with 130 gr hunting vld's out of my 270wsm, perfect shot placement @ 100yrds = a nice WT buck that dropped in it's tracks..all I will say is u don't need a exit hole to leave a blood trail to follow because they don't run after being hit ethicly with a Berger. Iam going to give them a try on elk this coming season..

I understand that part, the only thing that concerns me is injesting some heavy metal, because there is a chance of lead getting into the food chain. I am no doctor, but any amount of lead in your food, can't be a good thing.

Originally Posted by Bobby B.

According to the Berger website, the BC for the TARGET bullet and the HUNTING bullet are the same, at least for the 6.5 130 grain and th 7mm 168 grain.

The BC is dictated by the shape of the outside of the bullet. A thicker jacket would result in more copper covering less lead. Afterall, for a given bullet weight, if more jacket is present, then less lead must result. Therefore, if there is more jacket and less lead, then the dimensions of the bullet must increase to equate to the same bullet weight. Since the bullet cannot be of a greater diameter as this is solely dictated by the caliber, then a greater length must be the result. As a general rule, all else being equal, the greater the bullet length for a given caliber, the greater the BC. It would follow that a thicker jacket would increase the BC, not decrease it. However, the measurable difference would be very slight to the point of debatable consequence.

As stated by Walt Berger of Berger Bullets, it is the TARGET bullet that possesses the thicker jacket not the HUNTING bullet. He clearly recommends the thinner jacketed HUNTING bullet for deer as the thicker jacket of the TARGET bullet might fail to properly expand.

Bobby B.

According to Bergers site, the BCs look identical across the board. Last time I believe the sales guy who I thought was in the know... always good to check and not jump the gun. All things being equal (less oal), it make sense.

A longer bullet has other issues with respect to fitting the rifle magazine. In a single shot not really a big concern.

I'll have to measure a few to see what the differences are in length.

Good to see Walt still in the business.

rumor has it, Berger will again be amending their BC chart. Should be interesting if it is amended.... more rumors from the boys in the USA...

[flint]

Originally Posted by Sir Rollo

I understand that part, the only thing that concerns me is injesting some heavy metal, because there is a chance of lead getting into the food chain. I am no doctor, but any amount of lead in your food, can't be a good thing.

For decades I have been spitting bird shot into a glass (hence the name shotglass) and had dentists fill my teeth with it and I'm very healthy. I don't think a little shrapnel from a Berger will hurt you. By gollie if you are concerned about lead then don't drive into or near Calgary, there is alot of lead in the air there.

[209x50]

Originally Posted by flint

For decades I have been spitting bird shot into a glass (hence the name shotglass) and had dentists fill my teeth with it and I'm very healthy. I don't think a little shrapnel from a Berger will hurt you. By gollie if you are concerned about lead then don't drive into or near Calgary, there is alot of lead in the air there.

Amazing! Where do you find a dentist that fills teeth with lead?!?

Originally Posted by Sir Rollo

I understand that part, the only thing that concerns me is injesting some heavy metal, because there is a chance of lead getting into the food chain. I am no doctor, but any amount of lead in your food, can't be a good thing.

This is always an interesting read for those concerned about lead in hunter-killed game. Take the time to look at the full summary...it's eye opening to say the least.
http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/hunting/lead/index.html

Originally Posted by flint

For decades I have been spitting bird shot into a glass (hence the name shotglass) and had dentists fill my teeth with it and I'm very healthy.

LOL...what are you...200 years old. Lead hasn't been used as a tooth filling material since the 19th century and truthfully saw very little use after the civil war. It was discontinued once the effects of "lead" poisoning were fully understood.

[Cowtown guy]

Originally Posted by sheephunter

LOL...what are you...200 years old. Lead hasn't been used as a tooth filling material since the 19th century and truthfully saw very little use after the civil war. It was discontinued once the effects of "lead" poisoning were fully understood.

Ya that would be a lack of repeat clients. Hard to keep the doors open when they keep dying.