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Old 07-18-2018, 01:44 PM
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Default Great Weekend of shooting lots of fun

Ya I know its just an excuse to post a photo of some groups. I had a great weekend of shooting. Did some 5 shot groups, some were pretty good others could have been better but I am happy with how I did over all. I always seem to get a really tight group then an outlier. I havent been streching things out to long range much this summer (no hits at 1000) but I hope to get my first hit at 1000m this fall.

I was shooting my 6.5 x 47 Lapua Tikka rifle using 123gr scenars and 36.5 grs of Varget.
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Old 07-18-2018, 01:56 PM
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Wow thats some dam consistent shooting thanks for posting,

What barrel are you using ?

Where did you buy the Scenars ?

What scope are you using on your rifle ?
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Old 07-18-2018, 02:37 PM
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Wow thats some dam consistent shooting thanks for posting,

What barrel are you using ?

Where did you buy the Scenars ?

What scope are you using on your rifle ?
Prophet River Firearms carries Scenars.
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Old 07-18-2018, 02:44 PM
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Default Yup

I got the 123 scenars from Prophet River. You can also order directly from Hirsch Precision as they are the Lapua wholesaler for Canada. Price is about the same from both.

I am using a 30" MTU contour Krieger barrel with a 1/8 twist. Velocity is about 2950 ( according to my Labrader)

Using a Vortex Razor gen II 4.5 x 28 X 56 with the mil r retiticle

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http://store.prophetriver.com/search...&Submit=Search

http://www.hirschprecision.com/
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Old 07-18-2018, 03:03 PM
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Good on you brother Mark.

I'm doing the 30 cal thing up my way since the last time we chatted.

Hoping to get out to test the 6' steel gong.
My brother picked up a swing set stand at dump to hang it from.

Hopefully this week I can get it set up.

One problem is that all 3 of my long range rigs are 30 caliber. Guess I'll have to head down range to paint over the dents. Ha

You'll have a blast sorting out your new pipe.

Don
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Old 07-18-2018, 05:12 PM
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Mark you have been ready for a 1000 yards for a long time. I predict under 3 shots and you will be banging steel at 1K.
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Old 07-18-2018, 06:02 PM
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Default I wish

I wish, I have tried several times, probably over 50 rounds and cant hit the gong. I am stuck at 600m and cant get past it. I had a bit of a wall going from 500 to 600 as well for a bit. I know I will get past it but it is definately not an easy or simple thing. I have huge respect for those capable of the feat.
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Old 07-18-2018, 06:36 PM
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The step from 600 to 1000 shouldn't be a big one if you are consistent at the shorter range....can you see what's going wrong at 1000, or is it a case of "can't see splash so don't know what to correct"? That can be real frustrating.....
Is your ballistic program making sense out to 600?...if it's not awful close, that error will of course be magnified further out.
Where do you shoot ? (Not that it matters, just wonder if you are close by, I have an accessible private range for long distance work.)
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Old 07-18-2018, 06:36 PM
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Roughly 27 moa should get you pretty close at 1000. You need to either have a large pile of dirt or some kind of back stop so you can spot your misses.
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Old 07-18-2018, 07:04 PM
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Default Nailed it

You guys nailed it. I cant see the splash and cant correct. I hand load so I know my ES and its below 20 FPS so In theory I should be on. I have a Kestrel for wind but wind can change several times in that distance. Ill get it eventually.
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Old 07-18-2018, 07:07 PM
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Default You need a 6.5 of some kind

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Good on you brother Mark.

I'm doing the 30 cal thing up my way since the last time we chatted.

Hoping to get out to test the 6' steel gong.
My brother picked up a swing set stand at dump to hang it from.

Hopefully this week I can get it set up.

One problem is that all 3 of my long range rigs are 30 caliber. Guess I'll have to head down range to paint over the dents. Ha

You'll have a blast sorting out your new pipe.

Don
You need to convert one of those 30 cal into a 6.5 of some kind. I think you would love the difference. I keep going back and forth on selling my 308 and converting it to another 6.5 of some kind.
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Old 07-18-2018, 07:13 PM
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Nice work there Mark. If you’ve got enough freebore, you might try some Ber 130 VLD(H) pushed by H4350 in that ‘47. I’ve never had much success with with the shorter 6.5 bullets in any of my ‘47’s (8 twist).
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Old 07-18-2018, 07:23 PM
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Nice work there Mark. If you’ve got enough freebore, you might try some Ber 130 VLD(H) pushed by H4350 in that ‘47. I’ve never had much success with with the shorter 6.5 bullets in any of my ‘47’s (8 twist).
Just picked up some Hornady ELD M 140 grains this week. Dont have any H4350 but have an 8lb of Varget so that is my go to powder.
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Old 07-18-2018, 07:55 PM
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Default Just thought of something

Just because I have a bunch of Varget doest mean I cant buy a pound of H4350 to try it and see if I can get a good load. I hear you can push the limits a bit more with the H4350 before pressure signs
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Old 07-18-2018, 08:10 PM
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Yes when you can’t spot your misses a guy can waste a lot of ammo. I have tried shooting my 1100 yd target after a fresh snow and misses are almost impossible to spot.
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Old 07-18-2018, 08:24 PM
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Just because I have a bunch of Varget doest mean I cant buy a pound of H4350 to try it and see if I can get a good load. I hear you can push the limits a bit more with the H4350 before pressure signs
I think the Varget may have a faster burn rate than the heavier 6.5’s will like? When I first started loading for the ‘47 I tried Varget, 4064, and RE 15 (120’s and 130’s) but never really tightened groups up until switching to H4350. I have .180 freebore so can load long which gives me extra space in the boiler room. Most of my barrels are 24/25” and produce about 2850FPS MV with 41 gr H4350. It will handle 42grs but groups start to grow. With your 30” tube, you should be pushing the 130’s close to 3000 and into another sweet spot.
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Old 07-19-2018, 06:25 AM
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I agree that 3000 fps should be possible. My RBROS 6.5X47 with a 26" Broughton drives a 130 Berger hunting at 2980 fps with lapua brass, CCI 450, and 42.2 gr of H4350. A 140 gr out of that 30" pipe should work really well if it's throated right. You shouldn't have a problem at 1000 yds if you are ok at 600. How big are your gongs? Maybe put up a whole sheet of plywood or larger gongs. I find out to 700 yds you can get away with some small errors. But from 700 to 1000 you better make sure everything is consistent. What ballistic APP are you using? If your drops line up perfectly at 600 they should be good at 1000.
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Old 07-19-2018, 02:16 PM
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Default Out shooting today

Was out again today. I hit 15 out of 15 at 500M and went 14 out of 15 at 600M Was pretty happy with that.

My Gongs are 14 inch from Alberta Steel Targets.

I cant put plywood or even dirt behind them becasue the cows freakin wreck everything or use the dirt as scouting outpost. In fact I cant even leave the gongs in the pasture but I have to carry them across the fence to keep the delicous bastards from destroying them.

So ya I am going to be fighting an uphill battle to hit at 1Km

I use 2 ballistics programs and they are within .1 mill of each other on most shooting solutions. (iSnipe & and Vortexc LRBC)
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Old 07-19-2018, 06:55 PM
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Our cows knock our targets over at 1100 yds all the time. Just part of shooting in a pasture. I actually need to make a bigger base so they can’t knock them over.
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Old 07-19-2018, 10:04 PM
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Our cows knock our targets over at 1100 yds all the time. Just part of shooting in a pasture. I actually need to make a bigger base so they can’t knock them over.
The tasty bastards will just bend and break stuff rubbing it. I have some posts in the middle of the field to designate specific distances and they knock those down pretty frequently. I left a gong out for a couple days and the steers were bunting it and pushing it around and bent the frame.
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