Philip Cahoon, Outfitter from Sherwood Park Convicted and Sentenced in Ponoka Courtroom

[diamonddave]

Originally Posted by MooseRiverTrapper

Was present at the courthouse 7 times. Lol Jimmy.

Been getting postponed since the Start of May, what's so funny about that?

[35 whelen]

I'm wondering all in what this would have cost him lawyer fees, loss of equipment, and how much he would have sold his operation for. I'm guessing still came out ahead enough to go to Kazakhstan a few more times

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[pikergolf]

So little regard for wildlife. Cannot imagine not making an effort to retrieve downed game. Makes you wonder about every animal he's taken.

[Jim Blake]

Originally Posted by MooseRiverTrapper

Was present at the courthouse 7 times. Lol Jimmy.

Well that's about how many times he had it delayed. Did you read the CBC article????

[Springer]

Im still stunned by these charges. Nube always posted lots of sheep pics , deer Pics and waterfowl hunt pics. Meanwhile Poaching to his hearts content. I don't understand how this didn't weigh on his conscience ? I was taught you eat what you shoot and have passed this on to my Boys and Grandkids.

In my opinion he should never carry either a guiding or hunting licence again ever !! Profiting from poaching is wrong in so many ways.

Nothing is to stop him from still hopping in a friends truck and participating on the hunts or using his permission he must have held in so many areas to help others out since he has no paperwork showing his licence.

If your reading this Phil , You sure let a lot of us down.

[Jim Blake]

Originally Posted by Springer

Im still stunned by these charges. Nube always posted lots of sheep pics , deer Pics and waterfowl hunt pics. Meanwhile Poaching to his hearts content. I don't understand how this didn't weigh on his conscience ? I was taught you eat what you shoot and have passed this on to my Boys and Grandkids.

In my opinion he should never carry either a guiding or hunting licence again ever !! Profiting from poaching is wrong in so many ways.

Nothing is to stop him from still hopping in a friends truck and participating on the hunts or using his permission he must have held in so many areas to help others out since he has no paperwork showing his licence.

If your reading this Phil , You sure let a lot of us down.

No he is not allowed to participate in ANY hunting activities in the Province of Alberta. Other jurisdictions have an agreement with Alberta. He is not allowed to be in the company of ANYONE that is in the act of hunting. If caught it's back to Court.

Saskatchewan does but BC apparently does not so maybe he'll be guiding for Torkdiesel.

[treeroot]

Originally Posted by WhiteTailAB

Only a 2 year ban on hunting? Stupid. Should be longer.

A lifetime ban would be appropriate...

He knew what he was doing all along and would have kept doing it if he didn't get caught. This to me proves he knows right from wrong, he knows the laws and has complete disregard for both. So once he gets the right to hunt back, he will be right back at it.


I think it should be noted that Phil also has a trap line. Trapping falls under hunting. So he isn't allowed to trap either. Its a shame if he's ever allowed to trap again. His line should be seized.

[Smokinyotes]

Kind of makes you wonder how many of those rams of Phil’s were taken legally or his huge whitetail.

[ghfalls]

It’s too bad he put so much pressure on himself to succeed. I enjoyed seeing his pics and reading about his hunts. I think it was something like 40 wolves he removed from 353 last year. How could he have possibly thought it was ok to leave that many dead birds behind? I hope that when he’s hunting again in two years that he plays by the rules.

[Smoky buck]

Wish all poachers both guide and hunters a like were punished harder when nailed with multiple offences like this

[270person]

Interesting that the great defender of all things APOS hasn't had a comment.

[pikergolf]

Originally Posted by 270person

Interesting that the great defender of all things APOS hasn't had a comment.

Given the time of year, he's probably out on a hunt.

[Kurt505]

Where is Gear Guy?

[ABDUKNUT]

Originally Posted by 270person

Interesting that the great defender of all things APOS hasn't had a comment.

Maybe he’s busy “helping out” as a cook at some goose club

[RZR]

Originally Posted by pikergolf

Given the time of year, he's probably out on a hunt.

Well phil shot a ram this year. He made sure his court dates were postpone so he could sheep hunt.

[alpineguy]

Originally Posted by Smokinyotes

Kind of makes you wonder how many of those rams of Phil’s were taken legally or his huge whitetail.

Hahaha.......my thoughts exactly!!!

[Kurt505]

Originally Posted by Smokinyotes

Kind of makes you wonder how many of those rams of Phil’s were taken legally or his huge whitetail.

Ain’t that the truth!

You can be a Hunter or a poacher, if you’re willing to poach for strangers imagine what you’re willing to do for yourself!

[WinefredCommander]

Originally Posted by RZR

Well phil shot a ram this year. He made sure his court dates were postpone so he could sheep hunt.

What a POS. I’m sure F&W really loved measuring his ram!!

[crazy_davey]

Originally Posted by RZR

Well phil shot a ram this year. He made sure his court dates were postpone so he could sheep hunt.

Had a feeling that was what he was up to.

[summit151]

Originally Posted by Smokinyotes

Kind of makes you wonder how many of those rams of Phil’s were taken legally or his huge whitetail.

Exactly what my thoughts are...


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[Jim Blake]

Originally Posted by pikergolf

Given the time of year, he's probably out on a hunt.

I would imagine he has moved out of the northern bc area he manages for the non resident aliens to the more Southern area he manages for the non resident aliens. Yes probably still "hunting".

[Gifted Intuitive]

Originally Posted by Jim Blake

No problem. These types of investigations burn up a lot of money and time. Hats off to the Special Investigation Branch of Fish and Wildlife and the District Officer for seeing this through.

Jim

But how do these investigations benefit wildlife populations ? Many species of wildlife are considered to be in "out-of-control" population numbers. I know many farmers who face thousands of dollars of crop damage from waterfowl. They do not consider waterfowl a game animal. They consider them a pest, a varmint, and believe they should be manage as a varmint. I have hunted elk and have farmers tell me to shoot into the herd because dead and wounded animals will attract predators and this will disperse the elk. I have farmer friends that can not swath their canola or other crops because the thousands of geese that fly through their area will destroy swathed grain far more than standing crop.
I have met many farmers that prefer outfitter hunters because they are more successful at reducing wildlife damage. Farmers can work with outfitters to strategically move game from land not harvested to harvested areas.
If Alberta Fish and Wildlife can "maim-to death' wildlife from a helicopter, how can anyone not view some types of wildlife as varmint ?
A varmint is a troublesome wild animal. Mice, gophers, moles, rabbits, make the list, but to many landowners are less troublesome than deer, elk and waterfowl.

[cody j]

So it’s ok to shoot 64 ducks and only pick up 8 ?

[ganderblaster]

Originally Posted by Gifted Intuitive

But how do these investigations benefit wildlife populations ? Many species of wildlife are considered to be in "out-of-control" population numbers. I know many farmers who face thousands of dollars of crop damage from waterfowl. They do not consider waterfowl a game animal. They consider them a pest, a varmint, and believe they should be manage as a varmint. I have hunted elk and have farmers tell me to shoot into the herd because dead and wounded animals will attract predators and this will disperse the elk. I have farmer friends that can not swath their canola or other crops because the thousands of geese that fly through their area will destroy swathed grain far more than standing crop.
I have met many farmers that prefer outfitter hunters because they are more successful at reducing wildlife damage. Farmers can work with outfitters to strategically move game from land not harvested to harvested areas.
If Alberta Fish and Wildlife can "maim-to death' wildlife from a helicopter, how can anyone not view some types of wildlife as varmint ?
A varmint is a troublesome wild animal. Mice, gophers, moles, rabbits, make the list, but to many landowners are less troublesome than deer, elk and waterfowl.

I really don’t see your point. Snow geese are the only waterfowl species that are scientifically proven to be overpopulated the rest are holding steady to 4% increase except for the widgeon which is a success story, the pin tails are actually declining rapidly to the point where a lower daily limit has been imposed in many states. In my area the locals are more then enough to cover the little bit of crop damage that occurs and many farmers prefer the pay out from wildlife crop damage on a wet year anyway.

[1899b]

Originally Posted by Gifted Intuitive

But how do these investigations benefit wildlife populations ? Many species of wildlife are considered to be in "out-of-control" population numbers. I know many farmers who face thousands of dollars of crop damage from waterfowl. They do not consider waterfowl a game animal. They consider them a pest, a varmint, and believe they should be manage as a varmint. I have hunted elk and have farmers tell me to shoot into the herd because dead and wounded animals will attract predators and this will disperse the elk. I have farmer friends that can not swath their canola or other crops because the thousands of geese that fly through their area will destroy swathed grain far more than standing crop.
I have met many farmers that prefer outfitter hunters because they are more successful at reducing wildlife damage. Farmers can work with outfitters to strategically move game from land not harvested to harvested areas.
If Alberta Fish and Wildlife can "maim-to death' wildlife from a helicopter, how can anyone not view some types of wildlife as varmint ?
A varmint is a troublesome wild animal. Mice, gophers, moles, rabbits, make the list, but to many landowners are less troublesome than deer, elk and waterfowl.

Wow the farmers you know pretty much suck...

[ceedub]

Farmers not swathing canola because they're worried about geese in the crop? Hmm.

Craig

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[Athabasca1]

[QUOTE=ceedub;4040589]Farmers not swathing canola because they're worried about geese in the crop? Hmm.

Harvest is weather dependent, not geese in the area dependent.

When the crops are ready to be swathed it's "go time."

[Joe Black]

Nice to see the moderators are allowing opinions to be expressed.

Also nice to see the lack of support for him(Phil), even by his outfitting brethren.

Feel bad for his family that is now dealing with this due to his greed.

[Grizzly Adams]

Originally Posted by pikergolf

So little regard for wildlife. Cannot imagine not making an effort to retrieve downed game. Makes you wonder about every animal he's taken.

He sure put on a good face here.

Grizz

[1899b]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams

He sure put on a good face here.

Grizz

I always thought he might be on the other side of the law or rules when he started defending Pat Garrett on here. Birds of a feather..