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Old 08-17-2018, 07:59 PM
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One of two bison that wandered out of Banff National Park earlier this month has been destroyed.

The bulls had meandered out of the park in separate directions on Aug. 5, just one week after the herd was released into a 1,200-square-kilometre reintroduction zone in the park's backcountry.

Parks Canada said in a release that on Thursday staff, "made the difficult decision to euthanize one of the bison bulls who had continued to move eastward toward private grazing lands and was posing a risk to public safety and to the safety of livestock."

"Parks Canada staff made tremendous efforts to encourage the bison bull to return to the national park and closer to the reintroduction zone. The decision to euthanize the bull was taken only after every other possible solution was tried or examined by highly trained, professional, and dedicated Parks Canada staff who are committed to conservation and the protection of species like bison," the organization said.

The wild bison are the first to roam the park's backcountry in 140 years. The $6.4-million project initially saw 16 bison released into a paddock in the remote Panther River Valley in February 2017 before being moved into a larger reintroduction zone this July.

There are 31 bison remaining in the herd inside the park, and Parks Canada said they continue to monitor the second bull that wandered outside the park's limits and has been grazing in the Red Deer Valley near Ya Ha Tinda Ranch.

"Efforts to reintroduce him to the national park are ongoing," Parks said.
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Old 08-17-2018, 08:15 PM
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Old 08-17-2018, 11:16 PM
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I’m sure the 6 and a half million dollars could have been spent on something a little better than moving 16 bison into the national park! Just to spend more tax dollars to shoot one of them, a little over a year later.
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Old 08-18-2018, 07:50 AM
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was posing a risk to public safety and to the safety of livestock."

They said it would never happen.

"Efforts to reintroduce him to the national park are ongoing," Parks said.

You can herd a buffalo any place he wants to go.


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Old 08-18-2018, 08:53 AM
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quick math says that was a $200,000 buffalo.........hope someone at least got some steaks.

Goodness (being extremely polite), don't you think there is a better way to spend our money?

did they really think those buffalo were going to stay where they were released?

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Old 08-18-2018, 10:00 AM
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A bison is a risk to the public and destroyed. But a grizz that’s known to attack, even kill is not pursued and dealt with?
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Old 08-18-2018, 10:04 AM
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Keep screwing with Mother Nature and wasting tax payers money. Evolution can be a beotch!
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Old 08-18-2018, 11:09 AM
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A bison is a risk to the public and destroyed. But a grizz that’s known to attack, even kill is not pursued and dealt with?
Haha ain’t that the damn truth!
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Old 08-18-2018, 11:18 AM
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Safety of livestock ? Some one explain that !
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Old 08-18-2018, 11:18 AM
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Haha ain’t that the damn truth!
Anybody who's been around Bison knows they are way more unpredictable than Grizzlies and with bulls pushing 1500 lb. they don't have to try hard to hurt you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNvTHOrTf_Y

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Old 08-18-2018, 11:19 AM
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It's the Canadian Government, they have a endless purse-string of funds.

It will only cost us $1 billion once they exterminate the rest of the herd this winter. Ha

Canada runs on waisted funds you know.
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Old 08-18-2018, 11:23 AM
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Worlds most expensive bison steak.

6.4 million dollars spent on the project I bet they will never tell you how much the cost is for ongoing maintence they probably have biologists making over 150k studying them helicopters flying tracking them medication and minerals.
It will be 10 million in no time.

I hope they had to pack out all edible meat on there back like us regular folk have to do everywhere in southern Alberta.

All that money could have went to better conservation of our wildlife.

Man if the government would have just gone to a local buffalo farmer and asked for 16 bison trailed to Banff he probably would have done it for a 1 million so who’s pocket did the rest of the 5.4m line ?
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Old 08-18-2018, 11:56 AM
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Anybody who's been around Bison knows they are way more unpredictable than Grizzlies and with bulls pushing 1500 lb. they don't have to try hard to hurt you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNvTHOrTf_Y

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Anybody who's been around Bison knows they are way more unpredictable than Grizzlies and with bulls pushing 1500 lb. they don't have to try hard to hurt you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNvTHOrTf_Y

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Old 08-18-2018, 06:58 PM
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Although the cost of 6.6 million may seem high the long term impacts should be looked at. As a keystone animal their impact on the environment will improve everything from bugs and birds to elk, deer, sheep and predators. Should improve the overall environment health.
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Old 08-18-2018, 07:06 PM
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Although the cost of 6.6 million may seem high the long term impacts should be looked at. As a keystone animal their impact on the environment will improve everything from bugs and birds to elk, deer, sheep and predators. Should improve the overall environment health.
Respectfully, what are the ongoing annual costs to the program? Would the money be better spent elsewhere?
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Although the cost of 6.6 million may seem high the long term impacts should be looked at. As a keystone animal their impact on the environment will improve everything from bugs and birds to elk, deer, sheep and predators. Should improve the overall environment health.
Another theory, how did the environment ever sustain itself since the bison left the prairies?
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Old 08-18-2018, 09:00 PM
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It's the Canadian Government, they have a endless purse-string of funds.

It will only cost us $1 billion once they exterminate the rest of the herd this winter. Ha

Canada runs on waisted funds you know.
Yea but but but.......the budget will balance itself.
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Old 08-18-2018, 10:48 PM
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Anybody who's been around Bison knows they are way more unpredictable than Grizzlies and with bulls pushing 1500 lb. they don't have to try hard to hurt you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNvTHOrTf_Y

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I won’t disagree at all but when people choose to go near them then they put there own fate in there hands. No different then elk in Banff. Show me a video where someone is walking in the mountains and a bison comes out of no where and attacks them.
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That is true , tourists get themselves in all sorts of trouble with bison . But when bison wander onto private land where producers have to deal with them daily it’s very dangerous. Those bison were defeated bulls looking for new territory. Nothing but trouble. I neighbor ed a pasture with 7 rougue bulls in it , one of em killed an uninformed jogger. I prefer living with grizzlies over bison.
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Bison and grizzly are both "Wild Animals" When was the wild eliminated?? and we started thinking of them as warm furry pets.
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That is true , tourists get themselves in all sorts of trouble with bison . But when bison wander onto private land where producers have to deal with them daily it’s very dangerous. Those bison were defeated bulls looking for new territory. Nothing but trouble. I neighbor ed a pasture with 7 rougue bulls in it , one of em killed an uninformed jogger. I prefer living with grizzlies over bison.
Yea and those Bison are long gone now after that incident.
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Bison and grizzly are both "Wild Animals" When was the wild eliminated?? and we started thinking of them as warm furry pets.
Every animal is warm and cuddly to the uninformed these days and sometimes they pay the price.

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The whole thing is a disgrace. And terminating a buffalo for "danger to humans" but not a grizzly bear makes me sick.
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That's the difference. Bison aren't considered wildlife while the grizz are, not to mention the endangered designation.. Easier to kill livestock
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The whole thing is a disgrace. And terminating a buffalo for "danger to humans" but not a grizzly bear makes me sick.
If your afraid of a grizzly bear don’t go in the woods. Personally I’d be more leery of a unpredictable black bear.
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No protests, no editorials from the east, no campouts and no apology from JT. Seems wild roaming buffalo aren't that important, so why are we doing this again?
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The whole thing is a disgrace. And terminating a buffalo for "danger to humans" but not a grizzly bear makes me sick.
You better go up there and give him a hug, if it makes you feel better.

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The incredible waste that Parks Canada generates all in the pursuit of “the warm and fuzzies” is unbelievable. Ever wonder why we are taxed so heavily?

We don’t live in the same world that existed when the buffalo were roaming free. Bison don’t respect fences all that well, and yes they are dangerous. I would sooner run into a grizzly. They were wanting to do the same thing in Waterton and people weren’t too happy about it. Gee. I wonder why.
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And I thought the first one would fall to a non regulated hunter...... I owe someone a beer now
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