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08-17-2018, 11:26 AM
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Smoke as cover for scent
Planning on some stand archery early season. I haven't smelled anything but smoke for 2 weeks. How does this thick about affect my quarry ability to smell me.
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08-17-2018, 11:48 AM
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smoke yourself before going hunting, they should be used to the smell by now
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08-17-2018, 11:56 AM
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Doesn't hinder their ability at all.
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08-17-2018, 12:08 PM
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I have seen deer in feeding among smoking bush piles. I am convinced it makes a good cover scent in the right place. I am also convinced actual smoke reduces a deer's ability to smell. I have snuck up on deer far closer with smoke in the air than not, even with the wind at my back or quartering towards. I also know for sure it compromises a dogs ability to follow a scent trail so I see no reason why deer would be any different.
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08-17-2018, 12:34 PM
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There has to be a silver lining for all this smoke right!
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08-17-2018, 12:37 PM
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Back in the day I smoked while hunting...could still have deer come right up to me
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08-17-2018, 04:17 PM
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There’s lots of evidence that says smoking your clothes will help get a bit closer.
I don’t like the smell much though so I haven’t done too much of it. One way to do it is buy a bee smoker, for some reason I had one in the garage and I’ve used it a couple times. I can’t report an opinion though as I haven’t given it much of a chance.
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08-17-2018, 05:44 PM
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To be more clear, I was wondering how the thick smoke blanketing the province affects ungulates sense of smell. I know I am impacted. Anyone else have experience hunting in smokey conditions. The answer I am looking for is something like "this crappy smoke is guaranteed to triple your chance of success". Any variation on that theme is acceptable.
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08-17-2018, 05:52 PM
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100% hinders their ability. No doubt in my mind. First hand personal experiences several times where only logical reason was current air quality
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08-18-2018, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Jays toyz
Planning on some stand archery early season. I haven't smelled anything but smoke for 2 weeks. How does this thick about affect my quarry ability to smell me.
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You still have your own stink.....think about it when you walk into a house you smell the fresh bread and the bacon too.....one does not cover nor mask the other....you stink and if they get down wind from you they may or may not bust you and bolt.
Don't loose any sleep over this hunt hard and hunt smart....but if you want to blow some cash on a spray bottle full of wonder juice have at it
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08-18-2018, 09:53 AM
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I strongly believe smoke is a good cover sent. In old days when we cooked around outside fire and drank a few, our cloths got very smoked up and helped to stalk close to moose and elk. Also if smoke desensitizes animals like dogs should also impact ungulates sense of smell.
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08-18-2018, 10:05 AM
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Yup smoke works great. I don’t normally smoke but while sitting in a tree stand I always take a carton of Players plain with me.
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08-18-2018, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Jays toyz
To be more clear, I was wondering how the thick smoke blanketing the province affects ungulates sense of smell. I know I am impacted. Anyone else have experience hunting in smokey conditions. The answer I am looking for is something like "this crappy smoke is guaranteed to triple your chance of success". Any variation on that theme is acceptable.
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This crappy smoke is guaranteed to triple your chance of success.
Happy now?
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08-18-2018, 09:20 PM
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Smoke is a natural cover scent and not alarming to animals,they are quite used to smelling it as you can well imagine this summer.
What is smoke?
Carbon emissions.
What are all the pricey gadget/scent free/hunting garments impregnated with?
Yep...carbon.
What did/do indigenous hunters worldwide do for milleniae before embarking on major hunting expiditions?
Big party around a campfire....and they hunted to live.
There's even a commercially available smoker targeted at hunters.similar to a bee smoker.
Half the deer I've shot I'm sure I either had a smoke in my mouth or was forced to put it down cuz smoke was in my eyes,lol.....I think maybe they were coming to bum one?? 😜
Tell ya what....you go waste $700 on a fancy ScentBlocker suit,hunters soap and shampoo,scent free laundry detergent,another $600 on ozonics....I'm gonna stand around a campfire drinking beer,sleep in a wall tent with a leaky stove,smoke cigs on stand,and kill some deer....as always.
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08-18-2018, 09:32 PM
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....and if ya REALLY want to attract deer....light up a lefty on stand,I know damn well they are attracted to that,lil bassturds use to eat half my crop back east some years. 😖
And NO I ABSOLUTELY DID NOT VOTE FOR TURDO.....never needed his permission for the last 38 years,ain't about to vote for it now or ever for that waste of skin.
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08-18-2018, 09:44 PM
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Weed also works most excellent at attracting ducks to your decoy spread,as any smoker will attest.
Ie;it's a slow morning....10am....haven't fired a shot in almost 2 hours nor even seen a bird anywhere near in range for an hour and a half,your buddy says "twist one up".....GAURANTEED almost immediately after you take your gloves off and dig the bag out of your pocket and start busting up a bud,,....a dozen mallards will drop from the sky outta nowhere and light into your spread with cupped wings at 20 yards!!
Yupppp....seen it 1000x 😣😖
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08-19-2018, 08:08 AM
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Wood smoke as cover scent yes, dope smoke no way, not a natural scent in the bush, next thing dope heads will be saying it cures cancer.
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08-19-2018, 08:29 AM
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We are holding hunting dog tests this weekend, and the dogs are finding birds in the smoke, so I am thinking that the deer/moose/elk will be able to smell humans.
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08-19-2018, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
We are holding hunting dog tests this weekend, and the dogs are finding birds in the smoke, so I am thinking that the deer/moose/elk will be able to smell humans.
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Exactly, your house is clean, your use to it then someone cooks bacon....what hits your nose the fabreeze smell of your home or the strong door of bacon?
There world Is no different......mmmmmm bacon
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08-19-2018, 08:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by West O'5
Weed also works most excellent at attracting ducks to your decoy spread,as any smoker will attest.
Ie;it's a slow morning....10am....haven't fired a shot in almost 2 hours nor even seen a bird anywhere near in range for an hour and a half,your buddy says "twist one up".....GAURANTEED almost immediately after you take your gloves off and dig the bag out of your pocket and start busting up a bud,,....a dozen mallards will drop from the sky outta nowhere and light into your spread with cupped wings at 20 yards!!
Yupppp....seen it 1000x 😣😖
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never really felt the need to take a baggie with me on a duck hunt, or any other time for that matter.
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08-19-2018, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by spoiledsaskhunter
never really felt the need to take a baggie with me on a duck hunt, or any other time for that matter.
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Agreed, if you must ....Keep it for when you don’t have a gun in your hands
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08-19-2018, 12:12 PM
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So if I fart in my ground blind my partner's not going to smell it because of the smoke? Animals detect changes in scent, if all day everyday they are smelling smoke then you walk in, they will no doubt notice the change. All it takes is a couple of human particles to hit their nose.
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08-19-2018, 01:24 PM
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I dont think anyone is saying it elimanates all scent. There is no doubt in my mind it hinders an animals ability however. Experienced this again last night when scouting. I have had several less then 10 yard encounters with game that i dont believe would have been possible without a strong smoke scent in the air.
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08-20-2018, 10:17 AM
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Here's a trick I use. Get one of those incense stick scents of your choice and burn it around your clothing. Stand around a campfire for a bit and viola!. I scent my items with a scent stick before putting away for the season in a plastic bin. When I pulled clothing out for use I smell like an elk.
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08-21-2018, 01:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by West O'5
Weed also works most excellent at attracting ducks to your decoy spread,as any smoker will attest.
Ie;it's a slow morning....10am....haven't fired a shot in almost 2 hours nor even seen a bird anywhere near in range for an hour and a half,your buddy says "twist one up".....GAURANTEED almost immediately after you take your gloves off and dig the bag out of your pocket and start busting up a bud,,....a dozen mallards will drop from the sky outta nowhere and light into your spread with cupped wings at 20 yards!!
Yupppp....seen it 1000x 😣😖
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08-21-2018, 02:49 PM
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I was taught by Mike Warkun (now long dead) to call moose. He learned from the Indians at High Prairie to start a small cover fire and throw lots of leaves and grass in when you start calling. Let it burn out and watch where the smoke goes. It will surprise you of subtle air currents on the calmest mornings.
The smoke continues to pour out for a long time after the fire burns down to ash.
This smoke smell is normal for moose in the north who smell forest fires all summer long. The smoke drops down pretty quick as it cools, and stays on the ground for hours.
It does a great job of covering your scent for calling moose. Ask the 46 " bull I took last year, and about 15 others behind him.
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08-21-2018, 04:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by West O'5
Weed also works most excellent at attracting ducks to your decoy spread,as any smoker will attest.
Ie;it's a slow morning....10am....haven't fired a shot in almost 2 hours nor even seen a bird anywhere near in range for an hour and a half,your buddy says "twist one up".....GAURANTEED almost immediately after you take your gloves off and dig the bag out of your pocket and start busting up a bud,,....a dozen mallards will drop from the sky outta nowhere and light into your spread with cupped wings at 20 yards!!
Yupppp....seen it 1000x
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When AOF is done tarring and feathering you, fire me a pm I want to hunt with you.
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08-21-2018, 04:53 PM
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Doesn't hinder their ability at all.
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Agreed.
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08-22-2018, 12:08 AM
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When AOF is done tarring and feathering you, fire me a pm I want to hunt with you.
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Haha...well I'm kinda/sorta looking for an elk hunt partner Sept.22-30ish Hinton area......or I'll just go solo again....wutever?
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08-25-2018, 06:08 AM
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Haha...well I'm kinda/sorta looking for an elk hunt partner Sept.22-30ish Hinton area......or I'll just go solo again....wutever?
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If I don't bag mine in our early camp 17-21, I have the 25-27th off and would be up for coming out with you or both of you guys.
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