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03-26-2013, 06:04 AM
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Been lots of threads on this already.
Ten years ago we were a shadowy group of operators,now I see a thread every other day.
Take 2 year program.
Get your 3rd.
Get a summer job at a plant where firing time counts towards your 3rd.
Yes you can get a good paying job with a 4th but you are severely limiting yourself.
And probably will be working and studying to get get your 3rd at the same time.
Personally I'd rather go to school and get it....
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03-26-2013, 06:11 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
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Originally Posted by madatter
Been lots of threads on this already.
Ten years ago we were a shadowy group of operators,now I see a thread every other day.
Take 2 year program.
Get your 3rd.
Get a summer job at a plant where firing time counts towards your 3rd.
Yes you can get a good paying job with a 4th but you are severely limiting yourself.
And probably will be working and studying to get get your 3rd at the same time.
Personally I'd rather go to school and get it....
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Shadowy and misunderstood!
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03-26-2013, 06:18 AM
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Join Date: May 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by madatter
Been lots of threads on this already.
Ten years ago we were a shadowy group of operators,now I see a thread every other day.
Take 2 year program.
Get your 3rd.
Get a summer job at a plant where firing time counts towards your 3rd.
Yes you can get a good paying job with a 4th but you are severely limiting yourself.
And probably will be working and studying to get get your 3rd at the same time.
Personally I'd rather go to school and get it....
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what he said!!
this forum really needs a 'careers' section. the PE question is asked alot.
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03-26-2013, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by roger
what he said!!
this forum really needs a 'careers' section. the PE question is asked alot.
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too many people are looking into it for the money, not cause that's what they want to do. I see it all the time, we get new people that don't know which end of a wrench is which. Last week I couldn't spell operator now I are one!
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03-26-2013, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by chewydog
too many people are looking into it for the money, not cause that's what they want to do. I see it all the time, we get new people that don't know which end of a wrench is which. Last week I couldn't spell operator now I are one!
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Indeed most of young guys get into it for money....
Most want it all now...who cares if I don't know nothing....
It's an interesting mix of operators now...old wise guys,in between ers like me,and a bunch of FNGs
We use to run our plant with 4 operators.....shut downs,start ups even if help wasn't available.
Now with 6 guys the young ones complain about being overworked on a busy maintanence day.
I'm almost to the point where I'm one of the old guys....5 years I will be
Attitudes of new guys is a whole lot different than older fellas
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03-26-2013, 06:47 AM
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true.
im seeing that as the employee/job market changes, the PE field is an (assumed) trained replacement for any/all trades. I see employers wanting someone who knows a little about alot, rather than specific tradespersons.
i have a few other red seal trade tickets so it was natural progression to go into PE.
not every person can function as one, to fully understand electrical, chemical processes, mechanical, fluid dynamics, etc is not easy, but if your the kind of person who is open to understanding then you will accell.
I also see that a person a who has a sorted job history tend to grasp the principles faster.
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03-26-2013, 03:08 PM
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Years ago, when went through the NAIT 2-yesr program, one of the entry application requirements was to write a research paper on PE; what is was and what one does. I have a feeling that this is no longer the case.
The stunned looks on new graduates faces when they're expected to get dirty or turn a wrench for the first time says it all.
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03-26-2013, 04:13 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2013
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Originally Posted by chewydog
too many people are looking into it for the money, not cause that's what they want to do. I see it all the time, we get new people that don't know which end of a wrench is which. Last week I couldn't spell operator now I are one!
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Yes that is true, however I do have a genuine interest in power engineering, not just for the money (although it sure is a bonus), but the career itself. I also like the idea of shift work.
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03-26-2013, 07:27 PM
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Do not limit yourself to just NAIT apply at all the college as I believe there is now a 2-3 year wait list to get into these programs.
Please do not settle on just the 4th class finish your education and get the diploma as you are far more employable with a post secondary education then just your certification.
Also check out power engineers anynonomous (sp?) on facebook.
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03-26-2013, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by chewydog
too many people are looking into it for the money, not cause that's what they want to do. I see it all the time, we get new people that don't know which end of a wrench is which. Last week I couldn't spell operator now I are one!
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^^^^ x1000
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03-26-2013, 09:09 PM
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Dirty ?
You guys get dirty ? Your doing it wrong!
(PE since 78)
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03-26-2013, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Puma
You guys get dirty ? Your doing it wrong!
(PE since 78)
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I don't but the FNG's sure do!
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03-27-2013, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by megadodge
I don't but the FNG's sure do!
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Yup, that's if they leave the permit office! We had one FNG in one of my units I was looking after, I walked into their permit office at 9:30 am on weekday morning, none of the ops guys were in there as it was busy, only the FNG was in there watching TV. Needless to say we had a chat about work ethic and helping out without being asked. I'm from the school of thought, when there is work, everyone works! Until you have a unit figured out, all your drawings are in and you have passed your unit training, no TV.
Not a hard rule to live by, do you think???
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03-27-2013, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Puma
You guys get dirty ? Your doing it wrong!
(PE since 78)
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Gas plant operator.....right?
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03-21-2014, 04:30 PM
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Yep
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Originally Posted by chewydog
too many people are looking into it for the money, not cause that's what they want to do. I see it all the time, we get new people that don't know which end of a wrench is which. Last week i couldn't spell operator now i are one!
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^^^x1000....this!!!
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03-26-2013, 04:09 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by madatter
Been lots of threads on this already.
Ten years ago we were a shadowy group of operators,now I see a thread every other day.
Take 2 year program.
Get your 3rd.
Get a summer job at a plant where firing time counts towards your 3rd.
Yes you can get a good paying job with a 4th but you are severely limiting yourself.
And probably will be working and studying to get get your 3rd at the same time.
Personally I'd rather go to school and get it....
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Sorry about posting another thread about power engineering, I just wanted to interact with actual power engineers and ask them my questions directly instead of just reading about what other people have asked. Also, I do plan on taking the 2 year program, however Im not sure of my chances of getting in since I'll be applying now and it is kind of late to apply but I can only apply now since my marks are now up to par with the requirements for Nait. At the very least, I hope that IF I cant get into the 2 year program, that I will be accepted into the one year course and be able to complete my fourth class. That way I'll still be part of PE field, and I can just work my way up. It doesn't matter if its the harder path, I'll still try my best to succeed at it. Also I thought the 2 year program at Nait gives you the firing time for 3rd class?
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