NDP - up to their tricks again

6.5 shooter · #1 10-27-2010, 07:36 AM

Charlie Angus Timmins—James Bay, ON
Oct.10/2010

moved for leave to introduce Bill C-580, An Act to amend the Criminal Code, the Firearms Act and the Contraventions Act (long guns).

Mr. Speaker, I am very pleased to rise in the House of Commons, representing the people of Timmins—James Bay, seconded by my colleague from Nickel Belt, and representatives of the rural caucus of the New Democratic Party, to introduce a bill that we feel will finally end the poisonous, divisive politics around gun policy in this country.

Specifically, the bill lays out a way to start moving forward with gun policy that respects the cultural rights of rural citizens. It ensures that rural citizens are not left to feel like criminals and it contains audit processes to ensure that Canadians are getting accountability for the dollars that are being spent. But also, and this is very important, we need to have gun policy in this country that ensures that guns are not able to get into the country and end up on the black market, guns that should never be classified as sports hunting guns, which are now getting in through some of the loopholes in the system, a gun such as the Ruger Mini-14. That is not something that a legitimate duck hunter or farmer would need.

We feel that unless we come together as parliamentarians to address gun policy in this country, we will continue to leave citizens at risk while creating further and further frustration in rural Canada.

We are very proud to present the bill. We are interested in working with our colleagues. This is the beginning, I believe, of a long-term consultation to move us off the politics of fear and move us towards the politics of developing good gun policy that respects Canadians and ensures that we have a progressive policy for guns in this country.

Twisted Canuck · #2 10-27-2010, 07:46 AM

Yup, I was sure hoping the NDP would step up and 'fix' the gun control laws in Canada.....certainly the most qualified bunch to bring common sense and wisdom to the table. Afterall, why would any sportsman need an M-14. Or a tactical 870? Or a Sig P226?

Maybe we should all take up the much safer hobby of knitting. But then again, those long pokey needles could really take an eye out, we'll have to introduce a private members bill limiting the length and sharpness of knitting needles, and mandate safety courses in their usage, and only licensed individuals with background criminal checks will be allowed to buy them to keep Canada safe from psychotic knitters.......but it's going to be hard to stop the cross border knitting needles trade.....

roadkill · #3 10-27-2010, 07:52 AM

I'm confused by why the Ruger Mini-14 wouldn't be useful for a farmer. I mean, isn't it called a 'ranch' rifle?

Twisted Canuck · #4 10-27-2010, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by roadkill

I'm confused by why the Ruger Mini-14 wouldn't be useful for a farmer. I mean, isn't it called a 'ranch' rifle?

Now don't be clouding the issue with facts....all a farmer needs is an old single shot Cooey. Rust optional.

dgl1948 · #5 10-27-2010, 07:54 AM

Every firearm owner should be contacting him with the make and model of the firearms they own and find out if they make the sporting firearms list. He may start having a few nighmares then.

rugatika · #6 10-27-2010, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by roadkill

I'm confused by why the Ruger Mini-14 wouldn't be useful for a farmer. I mean, isn't it called a 'ranch' rifle?

The NDP along with the liberals don't think Canadians should own guns. Start with evil black guns, then the ruger mini-14, then semi-auto rifles like the Browning BAR, then beretta extrema's and other semi-shotguns, then pump rifles, bolt actions, military calibers like 30/06, 223, 308, etc, etc etc etc.

I'm just glad that when they finally get around to taking all our rights away I'll be able to say I never voted for them. What a terrible feeling that would be to know that you voted for a party that was against personal freedom. I can't even imagine how much that would haunt me. Voting to destroy a country like that. Chilling. Glad I'll have a clear conscience.

Just bugging ya RK. lol.

I know you're just under some evil NDP spell or something.

But you have to admit it's kind of eerie how we all predicted this is exactly the kind of crap they'd try and pull...start out by banning one type of gun, and then they will move on to others. All enabled by having a handy dandy registry with which they can go shopping for guns to ban. Neato, mosquito.

fish_e_o · #7 10-27-2010, 09:05 AM

as much as i love bolt actions it's very very hard, no impossible to beat a semi auto while shooting a running coyote.

holy crap if we could get a half decent accurate and affordable coyote rig up here i would have three.

stuckincity · #8 10-27-2010, 09:08 AM

He said "progressive" in his last sentence. Everytime I see or hear that lib-left buzzword, I cringe and wonder what they're gonna do to us next.

BOHICA!

Cowtown guy · #9 10-27-2010, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by roadkill

I'm confused by why the Ruger Mini-14 wouldn't be useful for a farmer. I mean, isn't it called a 'ranch' rifle?

Correct me if I'm wrong here but I thought that the Mini-14 was what Marc the scumbag used in Montreal.

Okotokian · #10 10-27-2010, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by roadkill

I'm confused by why the Ruger Mini-14 wouldn't be useful for a farmer. I mean, isn't it called a 'ranch' rifle?

Sort of what I thought. But arguing about particular guns and the optics takes us down the wrong path. A semi-auto is a semi-auto is a semi-auto. They should all be non-restricted. Restricting some based on color or looks actually plays into our hands, because bringing this to light shows how arbitrary and stupid current restrictions are.

uglyelk · #11 10-27-2010, 01:07 PM

I’m sick of this continuing BS. I sent this email to the MP six days ago, I’ve received no response from him.

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“Mr. Angus, I’m surprised you would publicly state that the mini 14 is of no use to hunters and farmers. The mini 14 was introduced by the manufacturer Ruger as the “mini ranch rifle.” A small bore hunting rifle that was light to carry around the farm. Perfect for varmint and predator control, this is an activity that many farmers and hunters engage in. You obviously are out of touch with the activities hunters and farmers.

I would suggest to you sir that before you start attempting to table legislation governing farmers and hunters you become informed on the subject first. I believe that the public would be best served if those who presume to make the rules of the road are licensed drivers. You apparently know little about hunting and farming. I’m disappointed that you have tabled your private members bill and made such a ridiculous misinformed statement. I will encourage my MP to vote against your bill.”

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I’ve also contacted the manufacturer of the Mini 14 and let them know about this. I suspect they won’t appreciate Mr. Angus claim that there fine firearm is of no value to hunters and farmers. They have assured me that they are looking into this matter.

Let Charlie and Jack know how you feel send them an email

charlieangus@ndp.ca

mtylerb · #12 10-27-2010, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by roadkill

I'm confused by why the Ruger Mini-14 wouldn't be useful for a farmer. I mean, isn't it called a 'ranch' rifle?

Yeah, but the mini-14 was specifically mentioned in a rap somewhere, so obviously it's only used by gangbanger wannabe's.

roadkill · #13 10-27-2010, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowtown guy

Correct me if I'm wrong here but I thought that the Mini-14 was what Marc the scumbag used in Montreal.

I think it was. I know it was a Ruger semi, but I'm unclear on exactly which one.

rugatika · #14 10-27-2010, 03:55 PM

Yes he used a ruger mini-14...and I believe it was the Progressive Conservatives that used the incident to bring in the 5 shell in a semi-auto law. (if I remember correctly). Not mentioned is the manner in which Gamil Garbi was raised to hate women by his Algerian father among many other abuses. So once again it's the inanimate object that gets blamed rather than the appropriate circumstances...ie: people having children that really shouldn't be.

lclund1946 · #15 10-27-2010, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by uglyelk

I’m sick of this continuing BS. I sent this email to the MP six days ago, I’ve received no response from him.

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“Mr. Angus, I’m surprised you would publicly state that the mini 14 is of no use to hunters and farmers. The mini 14 was introduced by the manufacturer Ruger as the “mini ranch rifle.” A small bore hunting rifle that was light to carry around the farm. Perfect for varmint and predator control, this is an activity that many farmers and hunters engage in. You obviously are out of touch with the activities hunters and farmers.

I would suggest to you sir that before you start attempting to table legislation governing farmers and hunters you become informed on the subject first. I believe that the public would be best served if those who presume to make the rules of the road are licensed drivers. You apparently know little about hunting and farming. I’m disappointed that you have tabled your private members bill and made such a ridiculous misinformed statement. I will encourage my MP to vote against your bill.”

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I’ve also contacted the manufacturer of the Mini 14 and let them know about this. I suspect they won’t appreciate Mr. Angus claim that there fine firearm is of no value to hunters and farmers. They have assured me that they are looking into this matter.

Let Charlie and Jack know how you feel send them an email

charlieangus@ndp.ca

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