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12-01-2016, 04:38 PM
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Hunting from a mountain bike
Hey Guys,
I was wondering, can I ride a bike down the quad track or the like with a loaded .22lr?
Not that I need to be loaded but I am just wondering the legality of it. Has anyone done it before? I'm think for hunting small game or grouse.
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12-01-2016, 06:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Prairiekid
Hey Guys,
I was wondering, can I ride a bike down the quad track or the like with a loaded .22lr?
Not that I need to be loaded but I am just wondering the legality of it. Has anyone done it before? I'm think for hunting small game or grouse.
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Must be unloaded during transport.
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12-01-2016, 09:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CNP
Must be unloaded during transport.
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On a peddle bike?
What about a horse?
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12-01-2016, 09:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CNP
Must be unloaded during transport.
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But if you're walking with a loaded gun, r u not transporting it?
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12-01-2016, 09:58 PM
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I would assume your OK. Because is being manually driven. But dont ride with it loaded.
This is my assumption. And you know what that usually make out of me !
Brad
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12-01-2016, 10:22 PM
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I've seen a few guys using bikes on the Cypress Hills hunt.
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12-02-2016, 12:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bsmitty27
I would assume your OK. Because is being manually driven. But dont ride with it loaded.
This is my assumption. And you know what that usually make out of me !
Brad
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Do you realize what he is asking? The only question he asked is if he could ride his bike with a loaded rifle. You guys...
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12-02-2016, 12:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Black
But if you're walking with a loaded gun, r u not transporting it?
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Really? You passed a course saying you could possess a firearm?
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12-02-2016, 01:05 AM
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Storage, Display, Transportation and Handling of Firearms by Individuals Regulations
SOR/98-209
FIREARMS ACT
Interpretation
1*The definitions in this section apply in these Regulations.
vehicle means any conveyance that is used for transportation by water, land or air.
Wildlife Act - Province of Alberta
(jj) “vehicle” means a device, other than an aircraft or boat, in, on or by which a person or thing may be transported;
Use of vehicles, boats and aircraft 33(1) A person shall not
(b) use a vehicle, aircraft or boat with intent to harass, injure or kill wildlife,
(c) discharge a weapon from a vehicle, aircraft or boat, other than a boat that is propelled by muscular power or anchored, or
(d) have a loaded firearm on or in a vehicle, aircraft or boat, other than a boat so propelled or anchored.
Alberta Hunting Regulations
GENERAL
It is unlawful to
have a loaded firearm (live ammunition in breech, chamber or magazine) in or on, or discharge a weapon from
a boat unless the boat is propelled by muscular power or is at anchor and the person is hunting, or
any kind of aircraft or vehicle whether it is moving or stationary.
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12-02-2016, 09:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CNP
Storage, Display, Transportation and Handling of Firearms by Individuals Regulations
SOR/98-209
FIREARMS ACT
Interpretation
1*The definitions in this section apply in these Regulations.
vehicle means any conveyance that is used for transportation by water, land or air.
Wildlife Act - Province of Alberta
(jj) “vehicle” means a device, other than an aircraft or boat, in, on or by which a person or thing may be transported;
Use of vehicles, boats and aircraft 33(1) A person shall not
(b) use a vehicle, aircraft or boat with intent to harass, injure or kill wildlife,
(c) discharge a weapon from a vehicle, aircraft or boat, other than a boat that is propelled by muscular power or anchored, or
(d) have a loaded firearm on or in a vehicle, aircraft or boat, other than a boat so propelled or anchored.
Alberta Hunting Regulations
GENERAL
It is unlawful to
have a loaded firearm (live ammunition in breech, chamber or magazine) in or on, or discharge a weapon from
a boat unless the boat is propelled by muscular power or is at anchor and the person is hunting, or
any kind of aircraft or vehicle whether it is moving or stationary.
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What about skis or snowshoes? Sounds the same for me.
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12-02-2016, 09:35 AM
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Crap now you tell me I have to go in bare feet poop I hate those rose bushes
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12-02-2016, 12:43 PM
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This might be just me but I wonder how well a person can control the muzzle direction while biking.
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12-02-2016, 01:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockyman41
This might be just me but I wonder how well a person can control the muzzle direction while biking.
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I was wondering the same thing. He might be using a scabbard of some kinde which would keep it in place.
If it was me for safety reasons it would be unloaded. But that's just me.
BW
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12-02-2016, 01:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Battle Rat
I've seen a few guys using bikes on the Cypress Hills hunt.
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A fellow asked about using a bicycle at the Cypress briefing this year and the answer from the officers was it is a vehicle - no loaded firearm on the bike.
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12-02-2016, 01:37 PM
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So I went out this morning quickly. I didn't have much time unfortunately, but was able to test it out.
- I kept the rifle unloaded the entire time riding the bike.
- I was able to sling the rifle between my back pack and sling and maintain fairly good control. It's a 10/22 carbine.
In the future, I will just strap it to to a medium size back pack, just like you would on a hike into the mountains.
Like I said I didn't have much time, I saw one bird but it managed to escape me without a shot. Do you think slowly mountain biking is too quick to look for grouse and the like? It just allows me to get in much quicker to where I want to hunt and cover quad trail terrain quicker. I see grouse all the time but have never pursued them other than today. What style do you guys hunt them if you are without a dog, would you stick to game trails, quad trails?
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12-02-2016, 02:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FCLightning
A fellow asked about using a bicycle at the Cypress briefing this year and the answer from the officers was it is a vehicle - no loaded firearm on the bike.
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A bike is certainly subject to the same laws as a car on the road and by look of the definitions above, while transporting a firearm too. Who'd of known?
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12-02-2016, 05:25 PM
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What about walking with a loaded gun?
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12-02-2016, 05:26 PM
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Or possessing one while walking?
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12-02-2016, 06:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Black
What about walking with a loaded gun?
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What reference are you using that equates a person as being a vehicle?
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12-02-2016, 06:29 PM
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muzzle control?
Not seeing a slinged or otherwise attached rifle to a pack or an individual ridinig a bicycle being able to control the muzzle. Now add to that a loaded rifle and you are an accident waiting to happen.
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12-02-2016, 06:41 PM
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I don't figure where this idea of an uncontrolled muzzle comes from? If I strap a rifle to a pack and walk with it how would I have more control of the muzzle than if I ride a bike with the pack on? There are lots of slinging options that do not require the use of your hands to keep the rifle secure - biathalon is one of the first that comes to mind. How is a bicycle different than cross country skis for control?
We have already established that it is illegal to have a loaded firearm on a bicycle.
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12-02-2016, 06:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FCLightning
I don't figure where this idea of an uncontrolled muzzle comes from? If I strap a rifle to a pack and walk with it how would I have more control of the muzzle than if I ride a bike with the pack on? There are lots of slinging options that do not require the use of your hands to keep the rifle secure - biathalon is one of the first that comes to mind. How is a bicycle different than cross country skis for control?
We have already established that it is illegal to have a loaded firearm on a bicycle.
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Well stated.
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12-02-2016, 06:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FCLightning
A fellow asked about using a bicycle at the Cypress briefing this year and the answer from the officers was it is a vehicle - no loaded firearm on the bike.
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I would say this answers the question. we can interpret the law anyway we like but ultimately how does the one who charges you interpret it?
Sure you can fight anything in court but who has the time to argue, in front of a judge, semantics over the legality of riding bicycle with a loaded 22.
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12-02-2016, 07:01 PM
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You'd have better success with a pellet pistol. Keep it loaded safety on in a place that is easily accessible. See ruffie, draw your air gun and drop the finest bird in the bush. Last time I went quadding I got three with a slingshot, and I'm a lousy shot. I use a .22 on foot and it works great. Good luck
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12-02-2016, 07:07 PM
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I have a Montana Scabbard on my bike, my 30-06 goes in it with a loaded mag and nothing up the spout. By legal definition the gun is loaded but it's safe. Hunting on a bicycle is cool I don't care what the lardos think, keep at it OP great way to fly.
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12-02-2016, 07:12 PM
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Just because I do something that may get me in trouble doesn't mean I should advise others to do the same
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12-02-2016, 08:17 PM
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Bully for you.
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12-02-2016, 09:30 PM
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Or possessing a vehicle?
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12-02-2016, 11:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FCLightning
A fellow asked about using a bicycle at the Cypress briefing this year and the answer from the officers was it is a vehicle - no loaded firearm on the bike.
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I was that guy....... shot my elk on the first morning and the F&W guys just laughed when they saw my bike next to the dead elk.
"So you were serious about that bike hey!?!?"
Ha ha, they were great guys, had an awesome sense of humor.
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12-02-2016, 11:56 PM
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Unreg user: While the law probably didn't mean to, it clearly doesn't allow a loaded FA on a bike. It makes sense that it should be allowed but it isn't. I wouldn't do it and certainly wouldn't go announcing online that I'm regularly committing a mandatory prison offense.
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