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08-23-2020, 09:57 PM
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Conservative Leadership Results
So are we actually going to get results tonight or is this torn envelope thing going to delay results until another day?
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08-23-2020, 10:21 PM
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I suspect we won't. I was wanting to watch on CTV, but Evan Solomon is so busy doing a character assassination on Scheer, and mocking the Cons for not having results, I had to shut it off. He may as well stop even pretending to be an unbiased journalist, and just get the Bought and Paid For Liberal Booster badge to wear on his lapel. It's disgusting. He had the hypocrisy to be outraged that Scheer called out the media for their bias, as if it just couldn't be so. It's essentially become impossible to get any real 'news' reporting in North America.
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08-23-2020, 10:25 PM
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They’re going through the counts right now
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08-23-2020, 10:26 PM
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And, just after I posted, I checked and they are reading off first ballot results.
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08-23-2020, 10:37 PM
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No winner after the first vote.
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08-23-2020, 10:40 PM
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Do you know who was 4th?
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08-23-2020, 10:40 PM
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Round 1 vote
11328.55 Peter Mackay
10681.40 Erin O'toole
6925.38 Leslyn Lewis
4864.67 Derek Sloan
16901 to win
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08-23-2020, 10:42 PM
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Well its clear the CPC is done with that vote. I wonder if Sloan crosses over to PPC with Max.
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08-23-2020, 10:43 PM
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Do you know who was 4th?
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Sloan. He’s bumped out going into the second ballot.
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08-23-2020, 10:54 PM
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Second ballot will be interesting. Glad Lewis did good, but not sure I want to see her pull this out. O'Tool??
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08-23-2020, 10:55 PM
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The room wearing masks don't look happy.
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08-23-2020, 10:58 PM
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They stated that 62% of Sloan supporters put Lewis as second choice so she could do extremely well.
CBC has more or less written off MacKay.
It sounds like O’Toole for the win. He had a very strong showing in QC and ON where the support is needed most imo.
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08-23-2020, 11:00 PM
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Harper, Scheer, O'Toole, friggen joke. How about try a different strategy, you just lost any vote under 40.
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08-23-2020, 11:03 PM
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Will never win with a right win or social right leader. Period. Need a centrist. All I care about is no trudeau. And a centrist is only way that happens
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08-23-2020, 11:05 PM
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Will never win with a right win or social right leader. Period. Need a centrist. All I care about is no trudeau. And a centrist is only way that happens
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08-23-2020, 11:06 PM
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Erin O'Toole gets PM!
Round 4 count
19271.74 Erin O'Toole
14528.26 Peter Mackay
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08-23-2020, 11:07 PM
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Otoole?
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08-23-2020, 11:09 PM
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I never did get my ballot in the mail. Erin didn’t need my vote anyway.
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08-23-2020, 11:09 PM
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Will never win with a right win or social right leader. Period. Need a centrist. All I care about is no trudeau. And a centrist is only way that happens
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As long as Trudeau keeps handing out money, he will not be defeated by anyone. Many voters only care about handouts now, they don't care about the future, or about debt.
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08-23-2020, 11:10 PM
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Erin O'Toole gets PM!
Round 4 count
19271.74 Erin O'Toole
14528.26 Peter Mackay
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Good luck, CPC is gonna need it. Im voting Wexit or PPC. Millennials want someone financially conservative and socially liberal. CPC is out of touch.
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08-23-2020, 11:12 PM
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Good luck, CPC is gonna need it. Im voting Wexit or PPC. Millennials want someone financially conservative and socially liberal. CPC is out of touch.
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Millennials want handouts , that someone else pays for. They will be the downfall of our country and others.
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08-23-2020, 11:15 PM
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Good luck, CPC is gonna need it. Im voting Wexit or PPC. Millennials want someone financially conservative and socially liberal. CPC is out of touch.
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Yeah, I’m sure that voting for either of them will guarantee unseating Justin. 
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08-23-2020, 11:17 PM
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While I don’t mind O’Toole I don’t know if he’s their most electable leadership option, I suspect Lewis or McKay would have played better to the general public
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08-23-2020, 11:21 PM
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While I don’t mind O’Toole I don’t know if he’s their most electable leadership option, I suspect Lewis or McKay would have played better to the general public
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Had Lewis been an MP, and been better known, she could have won the leadership, and possibly an election
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08-23-2020, 11:23 PM
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Millennials want handouts , that someone else pays for. They will be the downfall of our country and others.
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No they want freedom and someone who can articulate why handouts don't constitute freedom, and in fact reduce it.
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08-23-2020, 11:25 PM
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As long as Trudeau keeps handing out money, he will not be defeated by anyone. Many voters only care about handouts now, they don't care about the future, or about debt.
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Other way round. As long as the conservatives keep putting social conservatives in, we will have a Liberal government. O'Toole went suckholing to the social conservatives. This WILL cost federal votes. We will see if it cost too many or not. If he shifts and goes centrist there MAY be a chance, but he will have to keep a lid on the social conservatives in the party.
I would say most in Canada would like fiscally conservative but socially liberal. And by fiscally conservative, I don't mean cut all programs, but be responsible. Sad as I am to say this, since I came of voting age decades ago, only one party managed to come close to balancing the books. The Chretien/Martin duo.
BTW - I don't count the Harper selling of crown assets to balance the budget as a balanced budget. It was short term gain for long term pain.
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08-23-2020, 11:26 PM
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While I don’t mind O’Toole I don’t know if he’s their most electable leadership option....
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It does seem to follow a trend that hasn't worked out well the last two elections.
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Had Lewis been an MP, and been better known, she could have won the leadership, and possibly an election
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I’m sure hoping she becomes an mp in the next election and runs for leadership again. My guess is we will have another minority in the next election, Trudeau may still be in charge because I do t know if O’Toole will play well in those swing ridings, I’m hoping I’m wrong because O’Toole may be decent. If he loses though in an election we could be having another leadership race in a few years
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08-23-2020, 11:27 PM
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Lewis can’t speak French a lick. She would get clobbered in a general election most likely. Like her other than that but wouldn’t win. She is running to be an MP next election
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08-23-2020, 11:30 PM
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Who cares about Trudeau when the CPC just ensured Alberta separates. If your involved at all in politics you should know separation is a very real possibility. So going into the leadership race we should have been voting for the person most likely to bring the country together. O'Toole will do nothing to change the status quo, the power will stay in Ottawa. We needed a leader who would give power back to the provinces, Sloan was that guy.
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