Should Don Cherry have been fired - Yes or No

[tri777]

Originally Posted by OL_JR

"..his choice of words could have been better..

I find Greta's economy crushing words 10x more offensive spewed forth over the airwaves than Don's.

[man of steel]

It is funny that no one is mentioning Budweiser in this discussion. Maybe Sportsnet was "helped out" in making their decision by the sponsor.

[shebadog57]

I'm a NO, his comments are accurate and should be applied to all Canadians, immigrants included. Stop the butt hurt feelings garbage.
I am a serving member in the CAF and want free speech to be alive and well in Canada, its not. The PC culture is eroding and legislated away our basic rights to the point of our society coming to a failure point. We have actually legislated islamophobia, an irrational fear of Islam. Amazing and not so irrational. Another worth discussion.
I work as a tool for the Government and the PC culture in my job is scary, I could lose my job in just using the improper pronouns, try that one on sometimes. I have been written up for counseling soldiers and using to "aggressive" language, The F bomb is not acceptable in the Military now. Imagine going to foreign lands and getting shot at and having to order soldiers into danger and not being aggressive with your troops to get a dangerous job done. People lose there lives in this level of failure.
I have seen in other countries the Mr Trump called accurately S!^T H%*@S that are the end result of what it appears our left/liberals goal here in what was the best place in the world.
This gag reflex of being offended/using the racist card when you don't agree doesn't make any situation better.
I don't post much on any site but IMO this is a worthy discussion.

[MountainTi]

Originally Posted by man of steel

It is funny that no one is mentioning Budweiser in this discussion. Maybe Sportsnet was "helped out" in making their decision by the sponsor.

Budweiser is another shining example of the swirling toilet bowl the world has become. Since their last superbowl commercial, I haven't bought a can of it.....and I drank a LOT of bud in my career

[MountainTi]

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[HVA7mm]

Originally Posted by shebadog57

I'm a NO, his comments are accurate and should be applied to all Canadians, immigrants included. Stop the butt hurt feelings garbage.
I am a serving member in the CAF and want free speech to be alive and well in Canada, its not. The PC culture is eroding and legislated away our basic rights to the point of our society coming to a failure point. We have actually legislated islamophobia, an irrational fear of Islam. Amazing and not so irrational. Another worth discussion.
I work as a tool for the Government and the PC culture in my job is scary, I could lose my job in just using the improper pronouns, try that one on sometimes. I have been written up for counseling soldiers and using to "aggressive" language, The F bomb is not acceptable in the Military now. Imagine going to foreign lands and getting shot at and having to order soldiers into danger and not being aggressive with your troops to get a dangerous job done. People lose there lives in this level of failure.
I have seen in other countries the Mr Trump called accurately S!^T H%*@S that are the end result of what it appears our left/liberals goal here in what was the best place in the world.
This gag reflex of being offended/using the racist card when you don't agree doesn't make any situation better.
I don't post much on any site but IMO this is a worthy discussion.

First off, thank you for your service.

Second, great post. I couldn't imagine the frustration felt by long serving members having to tiptoe around everyone in an attempt to get things done, it must be a real pain. Unfortunately in life, and especially in military life, one can't always be "nice" when trying to get things done. I'm guessing that many things in the military that need to get done are far from pleasing. These levels of "PC" sound like a recipe for disaster when it comes to the military (combat or not) and in essence could easily cause people to needlessly lose their life. I'm sure that when our troops are engaged in foreign lands, their adversary doesn't show up looking to have a pillow fight and "talk it out".

[CrisPbacon]

We are in a culture of recreational outrage. Don Cherry has said much worse and wasn't fired for it.

[pmac]

No

I suspect the outrage that led his employer to fire him was generated by SJWs and many of the people out there that are in competition to be the biggest victim in society. I doubt that many of them actually saw the comments in real time or are actual hockey fans but joined the feeding frenzy driven by the MSM and social media.

Look at the last election when a candidate proposed reducing immigration to 150,000/yr. and was branded a racist because of it. Are Cherry & Bernier racists ? That is a question that should be each person should decide for them selves. Not have a pack of activist journalists and social media warriors decide for them.

It will be interesting to see where the change.org petition tops out at. I'm sure Rogers is watching it also. Maybe the "silent majority" is starting to speak out.

[huntsfurfish]

Originally Posted by brslk

I don't think he should have been fired for his poppy comments so much as he should have been fired a long time ago for being out of touch with reality.

I'm also a little tired of listening to people say stupid things like he was fired for saying "you people". No, he wasn't. He was fired for saying "you people that come here". If you don't know the difference between those two statements, well... I dunno.

Also, this is not a "free speech" issue. No one has absolute free speech in the workplace, especially in such a public position as his. The simple fact is that he said something his employer (Sportsnet, not CBC as so many lunatics are ranting about) didn't agree with and was fired for it. I'd be willing to bet anyone here that there is a clause in his contract stating that he can be fired for such things. Morality clauses have been in contracts since people have been paid to be in the public eye. It isn't a new thing or "Canada and the liberals have ruined everything".

It's not even a liberal thing at all. It has nothing to do with political parties, there's way too much division over politics for real, no need to make stuff up.

If you think it's a free speech issue, walk into your bosses office tomorrow and tell him to go F#$K himself or tell one of your customers how you think they aren't patriotic enough because they're an immigrant, then come back to me and tell me what YOUR boss has to say about free speech.

I've even seen many people on Facebook saying stupid stuff like "Don Cherry for PM!". ya, that's what we need, a senile 85 year old blow hard as PM.

He even said on the news tonight that he would have rephrased his words if he had to do it over again. He knows that the way he said it, if not what he said was wrong.

I've lost more respect for Ron Mclean over the whole issue. He was there shaking his head yes and giving Don the thumbs up as he was talking. Then he backpeddles and throws him under the bus? I get it, he makes a lot of money to talk about hockey and doesn't wanna lose his lucrative gig.

As for all the people I see online saying "I'm gonna boycott Sportsnet (and some morons are even saying they're gonna boycott CBC, although CBC had nothing to do with it), I'd be curious how far they are willing to stand up for their outrage over Don Cherry being fired. Are they gonna cancel all Rogers channels? Are they gonna disconnect their Rogers cell phone? Stop buying products and services from all companies affiliated with Rogers?
Likely none of the above and all this will be forgotten in a month.

All the people in Alberta seem to forget that Don Cherry has had very little good to say about Alberta or the Edmonton Oilers. In fact, I seem to recall that during the 2006 playoff run he said that Edmonton shouldn't even be in the playoffs and that Detroit should have gotten a bi, because the Oilers fluked out and didn't deserve to be there.

He's an eastern Ontario boy who is a Toronto, Ottawa and Montreal fanboy.
He couldn't care less about anyone else losing their jobs, and I don't care about him losing his. He's made a lot of money doing what he enjoyed and no one is to blame for him being fired but himself.

I've lost all respect for him after seeing him sucking up on FOX "news" tonight.

He's been like the old uncle that comes to the family dinner and says embarrassing things all the time but people tolerate it because "that's just the way he is". Well, his employer decided not to tolerate him anymore.
Nobody owes him a job.

I'm sure this is gonna be a very unpopular opinion here but there it is.
I'm just a little tired of all the people in the last few days acting like he's a martyr or something.

Very good post.

When I was a youngun, I was downtown with my Dad and Uncle(both WW2 vets) I was mad because someone wasnt wearing a poppy. Said I shouldnt be mad, they fought so we can have a choice. Will never forget that. I still would like to see everybody wearing one(see what I did there).

I dont like to see anyone lose their job. Would have preferred him getting a 3 game suspension for tripping over his tongue. But losing his job is not unreasonable either.

What he said and how he said was wrong all day everyday!

Sad that so many on here cant see that.

How many of you were calling for the Lethbridge cop to be fired?

Edit: as I said in another post I am a fan of DC.

[Mr. Bigglesworth]

Originally Posted by Northern Farm Kid

All of the comments up to this point are from those who voted "no". I am curious to hear from the people who voted "yes". Everyone be nice!

Fired might have been a bit extreme. Wasn't really in favor of that, but I voted Yes anyway since this has become more of a For or Against thing.

As it's been said already, Cherry is the harmless old racist family member everyone just accepts and rolls their eyes at. He is what he is, he's entitled to his opinions and that's all fine. But it's 2019 and we should probably be beyond supporting racist sentiments on television, no? Lets not pretend that what he said wasn't. He talked about identifying immigrants by sight and then making a preconceived judgment that they don't care about the country they're in or the soldiers who died for it. If you don't think that's racist, I'd love to hear your definition.

Unpopular opinion #1... If you have seen a lot of Don Cherry and you truly do not think there is any racism there, that might be because it would force you to take a look in the mirror and apply the same label to yourself.

Unpopular opinion #2... If you're overly upset and ranting about "Damn politically correct butt hurt snowflakes. Can't even have an opinion anymore. Makes me sick"...Well, who's the real snowflake..?

[EZM]

Originally Posted by Mr. Bigglesworth

Unpopular opinion #2... If you're overly upset and ranting about "Damn politically correct butt hurt snowflakes. Can't even have an opinion anymore. Makes me sick"...Well, who's the real snowflake..?

I agree that there is lot's of hypocrisy and irony with so many comments I read from people - but that statement is 100% true.

Any yet, people complaining about what other people complain about has always has struck me as humorous, moronic and utterly ignorant. Like having a giant poop stain on the back of your pants and walking around the room telling everyone they stink.

[Lildog]

I work for a huge organization that has been hiring a vastly disproportionate amount of visible minorities for several years.
I noticed on Nov. 11th that not one of them displayed ‘Lest we forget’ on the electronic sign on the vehicles we drive and instead chose to display ‘parking ban in effect’.

[Don K]

Not a chance. Pretty disappointed our country is becoming so socialist and sensitive. It’s hard to have an opinion anymore, everyone is a judge and jury...

[stuckincity]

Originally Posted by Don K

It’s hard to have an opinion anymore, everyone is a judge and jury...

And executioner.......

How many lives were ruined by this "me too" bandwagon going back 20 or 30 years? In one case of an Indigenous chief going back 43 years. (Sorry, no link. Looks like it was deleted from politically correct news sites.)

It seems today that just an accusation is absolute proof of guilt.

BTW, "crying wolf" will eventually have Unintended Consequences.

Just sayin.

[bushbug]

Funny thing is 21 years ago he said exactly the same thing and didnt get fired.Oh how times have changed

[Savage3006]

I know with my work I have had to really up my knowledge around gender pronouns and identity.

Its really new to me and hard to keep up on, but its driven by our youth.

Better or worse at least for my job I'm educating myself on the whys and reasoning behind this movement.

[vcmm]

Originally Posted by Mr. Bigglesworth

Fired might have been a bit extreme. Wasn't really in favor of that, but I voted Yes anyway since this has become more of a For or Against thing.

As it's been said already, Cherry is the harmless old racist family member everyone just accepts and rolls their eyes at. He is what he is, he's entitled to his opinions and that's all fine. But it's 2019 and we should probably be beyond supporting racist sentiments on television, no? Lets not pretend that what he said wasn't. He talked about identifying immigrants by sight and then making a preconceived judgment that they don't care about the country they're in or the soldiers who died for it. If you don't think that's racist, I'd love to hear your definition.

Unpopular opinion #1... If you have seen a lot of Don Cherry and you truly do not think there is any racism there, that might be because it would force you to take a look in the mirror and apply the same label to yourself.

Unpopular opinion #2... If you're overly upset and ranting about "Damn politically correct butt hurt snowflakes. Can't even have an opinion anymore. Makes me sick"...Well, who's the real snowflake..?

Dead bloody WRONG. If you you you took the time to look at his career. He has used that statement over his career!!

[RandyBoBandy]

Originally Posted by stuckincity

And executioner.......

How many lives were ruined by this "me too" bandwagon going back 20 or 30 years? In one case of an Indigenous chief going back 43 years. (Sorry, no link. Looks like it was deleted from politically correct news sites.)

It seems today that just an accusation is absolute proof of guilt.

BTW, "crying wolf" will eventually have Unintended Consequences.

Just sayin.

That day cannot come soon enough...looking forward to it

[RandyBoBandy]

Help me out here...I've been with ROGERS for 30 yrs as cell provider, what is BELL like to deal with?? Voting with my skinny wallet... To support Cherry

[Selkirk]

Originally Posted by IAMhunt

The reason Canada is a safe-country , willing to provide refuge for these ungrateful slimes, is because others have given the ultimate sacrifice ,

to not respect that selfless gift, deserves a quick ride back where they ran from , no return options, bye bye

OMG ❗

And what about all the born-here Canadians who don't wear a poppy and don't participate in Remembrance Day (probably close to half population) ... where are you going to send them ❓

No disrespect meant to the OP, but I didn't vote in the poll ... mostly because I couldn't give a Rats Azz about that *&^@%$# Loud Mouth, or anything he has to say.

Let the arrows fly ❗

Selkirk

[graybeard]

Don Cherry is Coaches Corner: No more Don, no more show.....Dissolve it all.

[RandyBoBandy]

Originally Posted by graybeard

Don Cherry is Coaches Corner: No more Don, no more show.....Dissolve it all.

[partsman]

No way in hell, he always uses the "you people"

[partsman]

Originally Posted by Selkirk

OMG ❗

And what about all the born-here Canadians who don't wear a poppy and don't participate in Remembrance Day (probably close to half population) ... where are you going to send them ❓

No disrespect meant to the OP, but I didn't vote in the poll ... mostly because I couldn't give a Rats Azz about that *&^@%$# Loud Mouth, or anything he has to say.

Let the arrows fly ❗

Selkirk

He covered everyone of every stripe that comes here, black brown white anyone that moves here.

[Jigger]

Originally Posted by Selkirk

OMG ❗

And what about all the born-here Canadians who don't wear a poppy and don't participate in Remembrance Day (probably close to half population) ... where are you going to send them ❓

No disrespect meant to the OP, but I didn't vote in the poll ... mostly because I couldn't give a Rats Azz about that *&^@%$# Loud Mouth, or anything he has to say.

Let the arrows fly ❗

Selkirk

For not giving a ratz behind about what don had to say, sure seems like you're in a tizzy over it haha.

[6.5 shooter]

Funny thing is.... I heard today that coach's corner is finished......SN is shooting themselves again...lol

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by 6.5 shooter

Funny thing is.... I heard today that coach's corner is finished......SN is shooting themselves again...lol

What would Coach's Corner be without a coach? They could call it Backstabber's Alley.

[EZM]

Originally Posted by shebadog57

I'm a NO, his comments are accurate and should be applied to all Canadians, immigrants included. Stop the butt hurt feelings garbage.

I'm going to stop you right there ............ that's the issue .... his comments were not directed to all Canadians .....

Do you see that? That's the issue in my mind.

Either way, we all thank for your service to our country and my family is forever grateful. My kids are first generation, I was an immigrant. Thank you.

[EZM]

Originally Posted by bushbug

Funny thing is 21 years ago he said exactly the same thing and didnt get fired.Oh how times have changed

Yes .... times have changed ..... women didn't vote and we kept blacks as slaves ........ how far back did you want to go in your utopia?

In some ways we have evolved to become better, in others, I agree we have digressed. Acceptance, Equality and Tolerance is one of the positives.

[EZM]

Originally Posted by MountainTi

Budweiser is another shining example of the swirling toilet bowl the world has become. Since their last superbowl commercial, I haven't bought a can of it.....and I drank a LOT of bud in my career

I would not be surprised. No large $ multi-national brand wants to be associated with any polarizing controversy. Television and Sports are a business.

I remember playing road hockey ..... man that was fun .... and we had no sponsors.