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12-03-2016, 10:27 AM
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Long Distance Shooting Books?
Looking to learn how to shoot at long distances and wondering if anyone has any good books they'd recommend?
Here are the two books I've heard good things about so far...anybody read either and have good or bad things to say about them?
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12-03-2016, 10:42 AM
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I am reading "Hunters Guide to Long Range Shooting" right now. Not even sure why because the longest shot I have ever taken on big game is 400 yards and on coyotes probably between 5 and 600. Seems to be the rage right now so I am trying to learn more about it. It is winter so time to study things I am not familiar with. Having said that I am more of a shotgunner than a rifle shooter so my rifles get out once or twice a year only.
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12-03-2016, 10:48 AM
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12-03-2016, 11:21 AM
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Bryan litz
I have read lots and the best out there by far is by Bryan litz.....
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12-03-2016, 11:53 AM
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I just picked up a copy of Applied Ballistics For Long-Range Shooting by Bryan Litz. Lots of good reviews.
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12-03-2016, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ken.gee
Looking to learn how to shoot at long distances and wondering if anyone has any good books they'd recommend?
Here are the two books I've heard good things about so far...anybody read either and have good or bad things to say about them?
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Applied ballistics is by far the best
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12-03-2016, 04:18 PM
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Ryan Cleckner is a former military sniper. I've watched some of the video's he has done from the National Shooting Sports Foundation. They are pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheNSSF
I'm looking for some advice on this as well. As I've said before, I've shot to 350, tht was on my deer this year. But I want to practice further and further so that I know I can consistently hit the 1 MOA mark at the longer distances. These suggestions will help I think. Thanks for bringing this up at the right time for me as well.
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12-03-2016, 04:33 PM
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12-03-2016, 04:35 PM
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The Sniper101 is great on YouTube. His 30-45min videos are dry and should be 10 mins videos but I watched the hole series and now I'm successful out to a mile.
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12-03-2016, 04:40 PM
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Accuracy and Precision for Long Range Shooting .. Brian Litz
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12-03-2016, 04:41 PM
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All great suggestions but my advice is read a few different ones and take all the info you can absorb from each and use it to figure out what works for you. Not everyone learns the same way so not every teacher is right for every student i like to get my info from multiple sources and see what works for me on the range or in the field
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12-03-2016, 04:51 PM
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Do not use ballistic coefficients from bullet manufactures , there mostly all exagerated for marketing . The ones in applied ballistics from bryan litz are more accurate as hes done lots of testing , he has an aero space degree and helped design missiles for the air force so he knows what bullet does what down range .
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12-03-2016, 04:58 PM
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Here is an example on what you can find in one of his books . Tells you if its a good long range bullet or not and if your barrel twist is right for that bullet 
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12-03-2016, 05:01 PM
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Not sure if you came across this forum Ken, but it's one of my many favourites with endless pages and info for us.
http://www.longrangehunting.com/
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12-03-2016, 05:39 PM
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All great suggestions but my advice is read a few different ones and take all the info you can absorb from each and use it to figure out what works for you. Not everyone learns the same way so not every teacher is right for every student i like to get my info from multiple sources and see what works for me on the range or in the field
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That's exactly what I was thinking...pick up the top 3 or 4 consensus titles. That's what I did when my wife and I were expecting our first child, but like most things in life, a lot of it was learned first hand lol
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12-03-2016, 05:40 PM
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That looks like a great resource Don, I'll be sure to check it out. Thanks!
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Shooting will teach you more than reading. Keep extending your distance.
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12-06-2016, 12:07 PM
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Shooting will teach you more than reading. Keep extending your distance.
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True in some sense but if a new shooter grabs soft point bullets that are not the correct weight for the twist of his barrel and bullets are keyholing at ranges out to a 1000 yards or more , it's a good idea to start doing some reading .
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True in some sense but if a new shooter grabs soft point bullets that are not the correct weight for the twist of his barrel and bullets are keyholing at ranges out to a 1000 yards or more , it's a good idea to start doing some reading .
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I don't recall meeting anyone every that attempted a shot at 1,000 that did not have some sembelance of shooting or ballistics knowledge or ability ! 
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I don't recall meeting anyone every that attempted a shot at 1,000 that did not have some sembelance of shooting or ballistics knowledge or ability !
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I knew how to use a ballistic program before I knew a thing about transonic and G7 form factor , so it can happen .
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12-06-2016, 01:45 PM
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I knew how to use a ballistic program before I knew a thing about transonic and G7 form factor , so it can happen .
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Most people talk to experienced people in the particular sport they want to pursue before buying anything - be it kayaking, snowmobiling or shooting for that matter.
A little bit of good coaching goes a lot further than reading IMO
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I think He is qualified
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I think this is a person who is qualified to write a book on this topic!
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12-06-2016, 01:59 PM
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Most people talk to experienced people in the particular sport they want to pursue before buying anything - be it kayaking, snowmobiling or shooting for that matter.
A little bit of good coaching goes a lot further than reading IMO
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True but there's not always someone around that's experienced in the sport or hobby that you like so there are experienced people out there that have passed on there knowledge in books , so it can't hurt to read.
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12-07-2016, 12:33 AM
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You can read books till your face falls off, but when you arrive at the 1000 yard firing line for the first time you're just as green as the shooter that has never picked up a book on the subject of long range shooting. Generally a pile of knowledge without experience is a waste.
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12-07-2016, 07:48 PM
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I have read all the litz books but nothing replaces getting out and putting bullets down range at a 1000 yards. Unless its really windy and gusty we can generally get first shot hits on the steel pretty frequently.
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12-07-2016, 08:27 PM
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There is nothing wrong with reading good books or seeking a mentor(s) on any subject or activity you wish to pursue. Many people with excellent shooting knowledge, such as Brian Litz, often write excellent books. I don't know of any Doctors that begin slicing before they had a good understanding of what they were about to be doing. They did a lot of reading before they got to the practical stage.
Good background knowledge is a must. The good part is that the practical stuff can begin at any time during the information phase when it comes to the shooting sports... but that's how bad habits are formed if you are not careful.
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