Broken plastic on Tikka

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Try and find any wooden stock that is a strong or stable as a high quality synthetic like a Mcmillan.

Give me fiberglass or graphite over wood any day.

[fluxcore]

Originally Posted by chuck

Give me fiberglass or graphite over wood any day.

Nothing wrong with a good laminated stock, lots of stability and tones of character. although on a hunting rifle I like the look of an all wood stock.

[PoppaW]

I don't think they are bashing McMillan, they are bashing space age junk. As synthetic goes they(McM) are very good if not the best. I still prefer wood, but own both. And if you put all the bedding blocks and pillars and extra support into a wood stock that most plastic have then in my mind it would be superior.
This is a chevy ford dodge thing even though we know Dodge rules.

[elkhunter11]

This is almost true. In many cases yes, however an oversized firing pin can cause the same problem

This is one of the reasons gunsmiths turn pins and bush bolt faces.

Perhaps you mean an oversized firing pin hole?Gunsmiths bush bolt faces to cure oversized firing pin holes,not oversized firing pins.

But even with an oversized firing pin hole,I have only seen cratered primers,not pierced primers,unless loads that are too hot are used.

And if you put all the bedding blocks and pillars and extra support into a wood stock that most plastic have then in my mind it would be superior.

Good synthetics like Mcmillan don't require bedding blocks or pillars.

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Perhaps you mean an oversized firing pin hole?Gunsmiths bush bolt faces to cure oversized firing pin holes,not oversized firing pins.

But even with an oversized firing pin hole,I have only seen cratered primers,not pierced primers,unless loads that are too hot are used.

Both. The oversized pins are turned and the oversized firing pin holes are bushed.

[PoppaW]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Good synthetics like Mcmillan don't require bedding blocks or pillars.

Thats why I said MOST. Not all plastic is made alike. Just like wood

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by fluxcore

Nothing wrong with a good laminated stock, lots of stability and tones of character. although on a hunting rifle I like the look of an all wood stock.

Laminate wood is only as good as the finish that is on it.

I have a friend who hunted for a time with a David Miller Marksmen. They are a "utility grade" version of his classic (if you can call it that) and are built with a laminate stock. Miller is a Couse deer hunter in some pretty dry environments and likes an oil finish on his stocks. My friend, on a B.C. Goat hunt, had his laminated stock take on water, swell, and start to delaminate. Not good. Conversely, Gene Simillion, a world class rifle and stockmaker, has developed a varnish type finish that will withstand just about anything nature throws at it. Even still he builds an awful lot of rifles using Echols Legend McMillan stocks.

[Tonto]

This topic has gone from a broken piece of plastic on a tikka to comparing different stock material.
To get back on topic, plastic is not a good substitute for steel.

[elkhunter11]

To get back on topic, plastic is not a good substitute for steel.

For some uses,it is a good substitute for steel,for other uses,not so good.On some detachable mags,the metal feed lips are easily bent,causing feeding issues.With a good polymer magazine,that isn't an issue.

[Tonto]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

.On some detachable mags,the metal feed lips are easily bent,causing feeding issues.With a good polymer magazine,that isn't an issue.

Plastic is not a good substitute for bad design.
At least the metal can get bent back into place. Plastic breaks.

[elkhunter11]

Plastic is not a good substitute for bad design.
At least the metal can get bent back into place. Plastic breaks.

You have to really try to break a Tikka polymer magazine.Has anyone reading this thread ever broken one?

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

You have to really try to break a Tikka polymer magazine.Has anyone reading this thread ever broken one?

A guy on the gunnutz thread claimed to have broken a magazine.

[PoppaW]

Originally Posted by Tonto

Plastic is not a good substitute for bad design.

I think the shroud in question has been described as such. A safety issue with a gun and we remove it cuz it works without it??? If it said Rem 770 or Mossberg on this gun it would have been torn to shreds. But we have the almighty Tikka so we can just toss the said part and keep shooting.

[elkhunter11]

A guy on the gunnutz thread claimed to have broken a magazine.

Well I know a guy who knows a guy,or I read somewhere,or I heard from someone,are all too common stories, but without an actual person stepping up and posting their experiences,I don't give second or third hand stories much credibility.

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Well I know a guy who knows a guy,or I read somewhere,or I heard from someone,are all too common stories, but without an actual person stepping up and posting their experiences,I don't give second or third hand stories much credibility.

The guy on the other thread was a person. From the kootenay's. Who claimed to have broken a Tikka magazine. Himself. Would he be any more credible if he posted the same thing here behind some phony name like just about every other person on this very thread?

Read it yourself if you don't believe me.

[Nester]

Love my Tikkas!!

[elkhunter11]

The guy on the other thread was a person. From the kootenay's. Who claimed to have broken a Tikka magazine. Himself. Would he be any more credible if he posted the same thing here behind some phony name like just about every other person on this very thread?

If the actual person that claimed to have broken the magazine posted here,and related his actual experiences as to how he broke the magazine,yes,to me he would be more credible.I am not big on believing second and third hand stories,and at this point,that is all that you are posting.

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

If the actual person that claimed to have broken the magazine posted here,and related his actual experiences as to how he broke the magazine,yes,to me he would be more credible.I am not big on believing second and third hand stories,and at this point,that is all that you are posting.

You asked. I relayed pretty darn fair information. You don't like it so will not accept it. Therefore we can now conclude a Tikka magazine has never been broken. I'm OK with that. I'll never have to worry about it.

[elkhunter11]

You asked. I relayed pretty darn fair information.

Without a link or a username,your "information" is nothing more than hearsay.

[Tonto]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

For some uses,it is a good substitute for steel,for other uses,not so good.On some detachable mags,the metal feed lips are easily bent,causing feeding issues.With a good polymer magazine,that isn't an issue.

Is plastic a good substitute for steel on a tikka t3 bolt shroud?

[elkhunter11]

Is plastic a good substitute for steel on a tikka t3 bolt shroud?

I prefer metal,but many shrouds are aluminum,and many guns don't have shrouds at all.

[Tonto]

You could have just written "No"

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Without a link or a username,your "information" is nothing more than hearsay.

Just like one of your famous "on another form someone disagrees with me please say I'm right" threads.

It would take you almost 30 seconds to find and it is there.

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by tonto

is plastic a good substitute for steel on a tikka t3 bolt shroud?

In no way shape or form!

[elkhunter11]

You could have just written "No"
Reply With Quote

You specified "steel",and as I pointed out,many guns don't have "steel " bolt shrouds.Many use aluminum shrouds,and some don't have shrouds at all.

[redranger15]

Let's get back on topic,.... bashing tikka's.

[Tonto]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

You specified "steel",and as I pointed out,many guns don't have "steel " bolt shrouds.Many use aluminum shrouds,and some don't have shrouds at all.

The question was asked so a simple yes or no could be used as an answer. I am fully aware that there is other materials that are used or none at all. By your answer I would guess that you would make a perfect politician.
Look at the picture very closely again. Is plastic a good substitute for steel on a tikka t3 bolt shroud?
I will add that I don't care what you prefer or what other materials can be used.

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by Tonto

The question was asked so a simple yes or no could be used as an answer. I am fully aware that there is other materials that are used or none at all. By your answer I would guess that you would make a perfect politician.
Look at the picture very closely again. Is plastic a good substitute for steel on a tikka t3 bolt shroud?
I will add that I don't care what you prefer or what other materials can be used.

You are bothered and complaining about the level of elaboration he gave in his reply? I mean REALLY? God, I can't believe the level of pettiness here. Yes, he could have just said yes or know, but you didn't specify that he MUST. He thought this was a discussion, not an interrogation. Next time warn us. Man oh man oh man. Must be that time of the month.

[Tonto]

Originally Posted by Okotokian

You are bothered and complaining about the level of elaboration he gave in his reply? I mean REALLY? God, I can't believe the level of pettiness here. Yes, he could have just said yes or know, but you didn't specify that he MUST. He thought this was a discussion, not an interrogation. Next time warn us. Man oh man oh man. Must be that time of the month.

You are absolutely right Okotokian. Sometimes I just don't understand why people don't want to admit that a product isn't quite as good as they thought, or admit they are wrong. Afterall, It's just the internet.
I guess I got caught up in the "discussion". Sorry

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by Tonto

You are absolutely right Okotokian. Sometimes I just don't understand why people don't want to admit that a product isn't quite as good as they thought, or admit they are wrong. Afterall, It's just the internet.
I guess I got caught up in the "discussion". Sorry

Geez man, don't apologize. It completely throws and disorients a guy when someone on here does that. I just don't know what to do now! It's like mental judo!