Hunter Statistics/Survey Results

[Salavee]

http://www.afga.org/pdf/Conference/H...al%20D.Kay.pdf

FWIW ..

[Headdamage]

What that doesn't show is the way Outfitters tend get to squeeze residents out in some of the nicer zones like 406.

[ROAD HAMMER]

It looks like lots of people get drawn for a tag and never buy it . They say only 82% were sold

[alacringa]

Originally Posted by ROAD HAMMER

It looks like lots of people get drawn for a tag and never buy it . They say only 82% were sold

I'd guess/hope that those are folks who get drawn for easy-to-get tags, rather than those who wait 12 or 14 years to get one. It is an interesting figure, though...why apply for the draw if you're not going to buy the license?

[pseelk]

Originally Posted by alacringa

I'd guess/hope that those are folks who get drawn for easy-to-get tags, rather than those who wait 12 or 14 years to get one. It is an interesting figure, though...why apply for the draw if you're not going to buy the license?

Maybe they got called for jury duty.

[Kurt505]

I noticed the moose harvest is almost 15% below the targeted number

[fish_e_o]

WMU 212 Antlerless Elk 300 drawn 140 tags bought 47%

Calgary.... i'm looking at you...

[Richard B.]

what am I missing about 406 and outfitters? I hunt there all the time and never see any. Maybe they are there and know something that I don't but what would they go for as I never thought of it as a trophy zone for anything?

[Ormachek]

Originally Posted by alacringa

I'd guess/hope that those are folks who get drawn for easy-to-get tags, rather than those who wait 12 or 14 years to get one. It is an interesting figure, though...why apply for the draw if you're not going to buy the license?

I can't speak for every tag, but sometimes things happen. I drew a moose tag that I waited patiently for a few years back. I never wind up buying the tag, or even hunting that season due to my wife having a major medical emergency. Only draw tag I never purchased.

[saskwhitey]

Only 60 percent of the 438 tags were purchased!!! What a joke

[teberle]

Originally Posted by pseelk

Maybe they got called for jury duty.

hehehe

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by fish_e_o

WMU 212 Antlerless Elk 300 drawn 140 tags bought 47%

Calgary.... i'm looking at you...

On that particular one (though this may happen in other WMU's too) I wonder if guys put in for the draw, and then found they couldn't get access so didn't buy the license. That's not an easy area.

[alacringa]

Originally Posted by Ormachek

I can't speak for every tag, but sometimes things happen. I drew a moose tag that I waited patiently for a few years back. I never wind up buying the tag, or even hunting that season due to my wife having a major medical emergency. Only draw tag I never purchased.

Oh, absolutely. Family situations should absolutely take precedence. But that's not going to be the case for almost 1 in 5 applicants!

[Bushrat]

Originally Posted by fish_e_o

WMU 212 Antlerless Elk 300 drawn 140 tags bought 47%

Calgary.... i'm looking at you...

Thing is the gov't keeps track of the % of tags that are not purchased and make accommodation for that. If they want 50 animals taken out of an area they know that for arguments sake say 25% of people drawn wont hunt or buy the tag, they know the success rate of hunters there is say 50% they factor that in so in effect they try to sell enough tags allowing for drop outs and unsuccessful hunters they probably sell 125 draws just to get somewhere handy to the target number of 50 animals they want harvested.

If everybody who drew a tag actually purchased it and was successful there would be a whole lot less tags given out. I see nothing wrong with that as it gives a better chance to get drawn because of the increased number of tags sold and makes a few more bucks from the extra application fees.

[newguy]

Excellent info!

[walking buffalo]

Thumbs up to Dave Kay with F&W for doing this work. We're not quite down to the fine detail yet, but this document is a great advancement from any previously released hunting licence information. Thanks Dave!

Originally Posted by Bushrat

Thing is the gov't keeps track of the % of tags that are not purchased and make accommodation for that. If they want 50 animals taken out of an area they know that for arguments sake say 25% of people drawn wont hunt or buy the tag, they know the success rate of hunters there is say 50% they factor that in so in effect they try to sell enough tags allowing for drop outs and unsuccessful hunters they probably sell 125 draws just to get somewhere handy to the target number of 50 animals they want harvested.

If everybody who drew a tag actually purchased it and was successful there would be a whole lot less tags given out. I see nothing wrong with that as it gives a better chance to get drawn because of the increased number of tags sold and makes a few more bucks from the extra application fees.

Not so fast....

There are other reasons for determining licence numbers than just success rates. In 212 there are concerns with hunter density and social conflicts, which can trump harvest objectives. Due to these concerns, there is very little chance that the 212 antlerless elk draw will see an increase in licence numbers due to lower than desire harvest rates.

Another factor for the low purchase rate of the 212 licences is that as this draw is not effected by your other elk applications, a decent number of people are applying for it without a real intention to hunt it, it is treated as a bonus, especially if their season to date has already filled the freezer.

[winger7mm]

Now just imagine if guys actually participated in the surveys instead of wearing tinfoil hats. These numbers sure they are great to have but how many people DIDNT participate in the survey??