500 meter elk

[Frank the Thank]

How far would you shoot an elk with 6.5 creedmore, assuming you are use to shoot that distance and have a good rest? 500m, 800m
Any experience?
cheers

[Smokinyotes]

Well if you want to stay above 1200 ft lbs of energy, limit your shots to about 450 yards.

[Salavee]

Anywhere beyond 300 yards would be a stretch for Elk sized Game. The 6.5 Creedmoor should not be considered a long range hunting cartridge under any circumstances.

[Smokinyotes]

I’m not sure if I’m thick headed or just old and stupid, personally I don’t see the fascination with the 6.5 creedmoore.

[MountainTi]

Originally Posted by Smokinyotes

I’m not sure if I’m thick headed or just old and stupid, personally I don’t see the fascination with the 6.5 creedmoore.

It's got a "cool" name. Good marketing

[Salavee]

Originally Posted by Smokinyotes

I’m not sure if I’m thick headed or just old and stupid, personally I don’t see the fascination with the 6.5 creedmoore.

I guess we are just old and stupid.lol In today's world, If a rifle is super light, shoots light bullets, doesn't recoil and ammo is everywhere it makes a perfect LR hunting tool. Unreal !

[Smokinyotes]

I know where there are a couple 6.5x 55 Swedes and a 6.5-284, they won’t be replaced with a Creedmoore.

[Buckhorn2]

Depends what your school of thought is on energy downrange. I like the 1000-1200ftlbs and no less than 1800fps on most bullets. Personally i like to keep my shots under 200 yards regardless what gun im using. I dont own a 6.5 creed but i have shot them they are nice flat shooting hardly any recoil. at my comfort ranges id shoot elk deer with them. I dont think id want to try punching thru an elk shoulder at 500yards with one. A nice available lung shot sure. It depends on your accuracy at those distances with any rifle/caliber


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[Jjolg123]

Havent reached out past 400 yards on the range with mine so thats my limit. But did drop a bull elk on the spot at 370 2 years back, would have preferred he ran for a bit rather than rolling down the ravine lol

You shouldn't be shooting further than you are comfortable and efficient at regardless of how "nice" your target is or the caliber of rifle you have

[Lefty-Canuck]

My 260imp passes through and kills deer at 440 yards just fine

LC

[Salavee]

Originally Posted by Jjolg123

Havent reached out past 400 yards on the range with mine so thats my limit. But did drop a bull elk on the spot at 370 2 years back, would have preferred he ran for a bit rather than rolling down the ravine lol

You shouldn't be shooting further than you are comfortable and efficient at regardless of how "nice" your target is or the caliber of rifle you have

An Elk at 370 with the CM was doing really well. Nicely done.

Your last paragraph is bang-on as well. I just assume that all these guys that are talking it up shooting game at 700 yd plus can nail a pie plate all day long at that distance. No doubt, some can, but I think the majority should try it before they move on to practicing on Game at those ranges.

[Daslogster]

High bc is the creedmore's claim to fame. An excellent target round with low recoil. I have done plenty of long range shooting and hunting and found that to keep enough retained energy with acceptable (1/2 MOA) field accuracy for elk, 30 cal min, 300 win mag or equivalent or 338 cal. Those are enough to get a hunting bullet through an elk at the 500 m plus ranges, emphasis on the plus. As was previously stated, not great retained energy on the 6.5, which doesn't matter for paper, does matter going through bone etc. If you limit shots to 500 m, then you can push a 6.5 or 7mm round that far but shot placement is very critical, I have seen shoulder shot with a 6.5 at 540 m and go way to far before getting anchored with a 30 cal partition.

[freeride]

Taking out all human error because that can happen with any rifle/bullet combo and I have never seen you shoot.

I would say it still depends on a few things...
1. Bullet weight your using
2. Speed
In other words ft/lbs

I have had a few Creedmoor and handloading one loved 2750 fps and the other one liked 2500 fps both in 143 gr bullets. The extra 250 fps really adds on to the yardage I felt comfortable at.

[skidderman]

Shot an elk once 400 yds 308 180 grain. Bullet went through one lung only. Was enough to kill it but it went a long way before it died. Was 2AM before we found it. Was very close to not finding it. I would never use anything less & more is much better. That's real world stuff. I work way to hard to hit an elk then lose it.

[58thecat]

Yup work on hunting, getting closer, makes the kill shot more effective...the little 30/30 does it easily but the hunter is the one that puts the bullet on the right path...

[Pathfinder76]

Real world stuff eh? Shot an Elk at 560 yds with a 270 Win. A big one. Witnessed. Took two stumbling steps and fell on his face. Blew the top of his heart right off. The end. Also shot another bull at about 70 yards. Hit him through the lungs and heart three times and he still went 100 yds.

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by freeride

Taking out all human error because that can happen with any rifle/bullet combo and I have never seen you shoot.

I would say it still depends on a few things...
1. Bullet weight your using
2. Speed
In other words ft/lbs

I have had a few Creedmoor and handloading one loved 2750 fps and the other one liked 2500 fps both in 143 gr bullets. The extra 250 fps really adds on to the yardage I felt comfortable at.

Ft/lbs means squat.

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by chuck

Real world stuff eh? Shot an Elk at 560 yds with a 270 Win. A big one. Witnessed. Took two stumbling steps and fell on his face. Blew the top of his heart right off. The end. Also shot another bull at about 70 yards. Hit him through the lungs and heart three times and he still went 100 yds.

I hear ya, I shot a buck 50yards, Hawkins rifle, 385 gr hornady, punched a hole in/out...buck ran 100 yards...shot another one the year after, same point of impact, same set up 100yards...dropped...go figure.

Guess no one can write a accurate book on terminal energy/outcome on game to many variables.

[Pathfinder76]

But they sure try to write the terminal ballistic bible here almost weekly.

[last minute]

Originally Posted by Smokinyotes

I’m not sure if I’m thick headed or just old and stupid, personally I don’t see the fascination with the 6.5 creedmoore.

To Each There Own. Just Saying

[270person]

Originally Posted by Smokinyotes

Well if you want to stay above 1200 ft lbs of energy, limit your shots to about 450 yards.

1200's too little imo. 1600-1700 more like

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by 270person

1200's too little imo. 1600-1700 more like

Can you explain the science behind that?

[58thecat]

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[roper1]

Originally Posted by chuck

Real world stuff eh? Shot an Elk at 560 yds with a 270 Win. A big one. Witnessed. Took two stumbling steps and fell on his face. Blew the top of his heart right off. The end. Also shot another bull at about 70 yards. Hit him through the lungs and heart three times and he still went 100 yds.

In all fairness, that's pushing the envelope even for an experienced shooter, for the average weekend warrior that's too far.

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by roper1

In all fairness, that's pushing the envelope even for an experienced shooter, for the average weekend warrior that's too far.

In all fairness, some people shouldn’t be shooting at game inside of 200 yds. Much less giving advise on the internet to those who can shoot circles around them.

[roper1]

Originally Posted by chuck

In all fairness, some people shouldn’t be shooting at game inside of 200 yds. Much less giving advise on the internet to those who can shoot circles around them.

True dat, the OP was asking 500, even 800M. The answer is still NO.

[Frank the Thank]

Hahaha, nice reply
I always been a big fan of 300 win, I will keep going this way!!!
Was curious to see if I was the only one... I am not
Thx

[Freerider]

Depends on a bunch of things first how far can you hit a milk jug everytime under the conditions you'll be shooting in. Bullet selection different bullets are designed to kill in different ways. Myself I shoot a bullet designed to fragment and kill that way in order to do this properly it needs to be above 1400fps so I use that number. Next and for myself 9X out of 10 this is the limiting factor and I find the most over looked how good is your range finder. inside of 400 you can be off by nearly 50m on your range and likely still get a hit past 500 you need to now your range within 20m. Can a 6.5creedmore do it for sure as long as you can make the shot I've ran the numbers for my 260rem pretty much a twin of the creedmore and on paper I could go out to 800 reality. I limit myself to 500 but only if everything is perfect no wind I am confident of the range and I have a stable prone position. The reality is with Modern bullets and rifles that are very accurate the calibre is no longer the limiting factor 98% of the time its the shooter.

[Dick284]

[Dick284]

Originally Posted by Daslogster

High bc is the creedmore's claim to fame. An excellent target round with low recoil. I have done plenty of long range shooting and hunting and found that to keep enough retained energy with acceptable (1/2 MOA) field accuracy for elk, 30 cal min, 300 win mag or equivalent or 338 cal. Those are enough to get a hunting bullet through an elk at the 500 m plus ranges, emphasis on the plus. As was previously stated, not great retained energy on the 6.5, which doesn't matter for paper, does matter going through bone etc. If you limit shots to 500 m, then you can push a 6.5 or 7mm round that far but shot placement is very critical, I have seen shoulder shot with a 6.5 at 540 m and go way to far before getting anchored with a 30 cal partition.

So what’s the claim with respect to BC with a .260 Rem, or a .264 Win Mag, or a 6.5x55?


And 1/2 MOA under field conditions, yup sure, if ya wanna blow smoke, step outside and have another dart!