Gas Gouging

[the.tru.albertan]

Gasoline is cheap.

[Shawnw]

Guess what if you want to camp hunt travel you'll buy it no matter the price this is gas price whining is getting old bunch of babies

[deerguy]

Originally Posted by Shawnw

Guess what if you want to camp hunt travel you'll buy it no matter the price this is gas price whining is getting old bunch of babies

Get gauged is getting old too.

[Shawnw]

Then walk or ride a bike so you don't get your butt hurt on

[deerguy]

Originally Posted by Shawnw

Then walk or ride a bike so you don't get your butt hurt on

Or I can try to bring in legislation so I do t get screwed on MY own resource,

[Shawnw]

That will happen about the same time ars get declassified into non restricted and we can conceal carry hand guns but you can always dream

[Sundancefisher]

Originally Posted by Camdelle

This fits in nicely with the fact that the PC government created rules to protect the oil industry from lawsuits regarding fraccing ect. Same thing they did with utility companies.

We will see if things change.

If there had been massive jobs added to match the 30 cent raise in pump prices then I would have no issue with it. However a 30 cent increase with no apparent change in the market/ cost of production or anything else seems suspicious when every station has the same price.

However as these prices are raised by large foreign owned multi nationals and the added profit leaves our country and our populace has to pay for it, leaving less money in our pockets for food, housing and other things needed in our lives, I am surprised that people almost make the conclusion that it is a good thing.

What rule prevents lawsuits from fracing. Please provide a link. Looking forward to it.

If you are thinking oil companies are making an unfair profit..provide the link to prove that. Looking forward to reading that also.

You want a socialist oil industry owned 100% by government? What other industries? Grocery?

[Sundancefisher]

Originally Posted by trouty

Why would the gov do anything about it that's where their and our revenues come from. No doubt their is collusion amongst them to say it's free market is bs. It happens within minutes among them.

Explain the reason for the jump? A refinery shut down? Has no impact on an overly saturated market.

Free market. It is no different than any commodity.

[deerguy]

Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

Free market. It is no different than any commodity.

It's my resource not theirs. There should be regulation on all natural resources so the host citizens do not get rolled over the coals. And I don't believe in a free market so that argument holds no water with me.

[JustMe]

Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

Free market. It is no different than any commodity.

Really??? Bet you'd be whining and b 1 thing if your grocery bill went up 25% every couple weeks! After all it's only free enterprise, right? Oil and gas producers are horrible corporate citizens. One of the problems I see on here is many posters know no other employers and are more than a little brain washed into thinking they've got a good employer. They aren't! They are huge multi national corporations that care about nothing (including employees) but the bottom line.

[Sundancefisher]

Originally Posted by deerguy

Or I can try to bring in legislation so I do t get screwed on MY own resource,

If you think they make too much money why don't you invest? Interesting.

I guess you could invest in a Prius. Use all that cheap great green electricity.

[hal53]

Originally Posted by JustMe

Really??? Bet you'd be whining and b 1 thing if your grocery bill went up 25% every couple weeks! After all it's only free enterprise, right? Oil and gas producers are horrible corporate citizens. One of the problems I see on here is many posters know no other employers and are more than a little brain washed into thinking they've got a good employer. They aren't! They are huge multi national corporations that care about nothing (including employees) but the bottom line.

So the people here that work for one of the hundreds of small oil and gas companies in Alberta and Saskatchewan know nothing about their employers or what kind of corporate citizens they are, but you have it all figured out? That's a pretty good slap in the face to the vast majority of oil patch hands

[Sundancefisher]

Originally Posted by deerguy

It's my resource not theirs. There should be regulation on all natural resources so the host citizens do not get rolled over the coals. And I don't believe in a free market so that argument holds no water with me.

Geez. There must be lots of profit. Since shareholder reap the rewards of profit you must be heavily invested. You must have at least a couple of oil company finance links that shows awesome profits. Profits are shared by investors. You can invest. Oil companies pay salaries and spin off economic benefits. They pay taxes throughout the Province. They pay significant royalties as validated even by the NDP.

[Sundancefisher]

Originally Posted by JustMe

Really??? Bet you'd be whining and b 1 thing if your grocery bill went up 25% every couple weeks! After all it's only free enterprise, right? Oil and gas producers are horrible corporate citizens. One of the problems I see on here is many posters know no other employers and are more than a little brain washed into thinking they've got a good employer. They aren't! They are huge multi national corporations that care about nothing (including employees) but the bottom line.

Geez. You must know at least two companies making unfair profits. Must be an easy business to make money at. You must be trying to start one?

[JustMe]

Originally Posted by hal53

So the people here that work for one of the hundreds of small oil and gas companies in Alberta and Saskatchewan know nothing about their employers or what kind of corporate citizens they are, but you have it all figured out? That's a pretty good slap in the face to the vast majority of oil patch hands

Sorry, I didn't say it, but of course I mean the major producers. A lot of the smaller service companies treat their employees as real people.

[JustMe]

Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

Geez. You must know at least two companies making unfair profits. Must be an easy business to make money at. You must be trying to start one?

Huh???

[Sundancefisher]

Originally Posted by JustMe

Sorry, I didn't say it, but of course I mean the major producers. A lot of the smaller service companies treat their employees as real people.

You must have some facts. Which big companies are bad employers based upon your experience?

[Sundancefisher]

Originally Posted by JustMe

Huh???

Ya I know. Strange eh. I had two windows open. Must of mixed up what I was looking at.

[JustMe]

Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

You must have some facts. Which big companies are bad employers based upon your experience?

The ones that don't raise their prices 25 % on a whim?

[JustMe]

Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

Ya I know. Strange eh. I had two windows open. Must of mixed up what I was looking at.

Sorry, you're the one that said it was just business and don't mind paying the 30% more for groceries.

[hal53]

Originally Posted by JustMe

The ones that don't raise their prices 25 % on a whim?

So how do we know which producer supplied the oil that was refined into the gasoline that you are putting in your vehicle?

[Sundancefisher]

Originally Posted by JustMe

The ones that don't raise their prices 25 % on a whim?

Why is it a whim? I suspect they raised their prices hoping to make more money. Hardly a whim.

Whim

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/whim

noun
1.
an odd or capricious notion or desire; a sudden or freakish fancy:
a sudden whim to take a midnight walk.

[guywiththemule]

Don`t like it ?? Get a horse, or WALK.. Transportation is your own problem... deal with it.

[Shawnw]

Originally Posted by guywiththemule

Don`t like it ?? Get a horse, or WALK.. Transportation is your own problem... deal with it.

Totally agree so tired of everyone crying about gas prices and patch in general don't like it remove everything from a well from your life and see how terrible it is then

[canadiantdi]

Originally Posted by Camdelle

Your protectionist views are laughable. Your a lobbyist for big oil... You say a lot but at the same time NEVER SAY ANYTHING AT ALL!

By the way I think we need big oil.

Answer me why every station in a community as almost the exact same price?

I've noticed that one station will change first and then the others will follow suit.. Makes sense considering they are all selling the exact same product.

[JustMe]

Originally Posted by guywiththemule

Don`t like it ?? Get a horse, or WALK.. Transportation is your own problem... deal with it.

Even the trucking companies, the trains, the ships, the airplanes, the combines and the heavy equipment. Fuel costs adds to everyone estate bottom line, a lot of folks forget this fact.

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[pmac]

Originally Posted by guywiththemule

Don`t like it ?? Get a horse, or WALK.. Transportation is your own problem... deal with it.

I doubt that I can walk or ride a horse my 80 Km commute to work, but thanks for the advice. The corporate arrogance displayed by your comment is typical of a essential industry. Maybe the City of Calgary should jack its water rates 20% for no reason and then tell us to drink out of a puddle in the gutter if we don't like it.

As much as I would like to see the pipelines built in this country, I can understand why people oppose them biased on their lack of trust of the oil industry. Running the price of gas up 10% over night is not a good way to gain that trust.

[Sundancefisher]

Originally Posted by JustMe

Even the trucking companies, the trains, the ships, the airplanes, the combines and the heavy equipment. Fuel costs adds to everyone estate bottom line, a lot of folks forget this fact.

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As does Rachel's 20% increase in taxes...as does increases in royalties...as does increase in carbon tax...as does...

[Sundancefisher]

Originally Posted by pmac

I doubt that I can walk or ride a horse my 80 Km commute to work, but thanks for the advice. The corporate arrogance displayed by your comment is typical of a essential industry. Maybe the City of Calgary should jack its water rates 20% for no reason and then tell us to drink out of a puddle in the gutter if we don't like it.

As much as I would like to see the pipelines built in this country, I can understand why people oppose them biased on their lack of trust of the oil industry. Running the price of gas up 10% over night is not a good way to gain that trust.

What do you feel is a fair return or profit on the investment risk carried by oil companies?

One way to solve your feeling is to guarantee oil companies profits in Alberta and take the free market supply and demand principles away.

What would you say is fair for a rate of return?

[muskrat]

Dont forget you and I have the power to affect commodity prices by voting with our lifestyle and consequentially purchasing choices. Keep driving for any and every reason , idle vehicles (even RCMP) year round and believe in our inherent right to do whatever we want to , not need to, and you will keep these suppliers keeping on ! Personally I have taken to walking as much as practical and have seen significant savings in fuel and vehicle costs. Another side benefit is less trips to the doctor. Casual observation in my area says "Participaction" is near "zero" for foot traffic or public transit etc, so you must be content with your choices so pay the price or move to the USA......