Go Back   Alberta Outdoorsmen Forum > Main Category > General Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #91  
Old 09-03-2020, 03:18 PM
barbless barbless is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: calgary ab
Posts: 2,703
Default

All that media hype telling you only really one side. Media and news for the most part is for entertainment. You will not get the real story. Just watch some edited videos they show. People are getting sick and more cases coming up. So many thousands of cases total and the amount that have died. They are slowly letting us know how many have overcome and survived this virus. They are not to quick to say your survival rate is in the upper 98%.Depending on age and underlying health issues of course. They only put the ones on tv that had extreme cases and come through it. How about the others that tested positive and no real complications. NO I do not want to get in line for it but don't push me in a direction I don't want to go. You already tried voluntary forcible confinement, I have washed and used so much sanitizer crap on my hands I can see my grade 9 exam cheat answers on my hands. 50 years later LOL
Reply With Quote
  #92  
Old 09-03-2020, 04:29 PM
Pioneer2 Pioneer2 is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 4,327
Default no

no
Reply With Quote
  #93  
Old 09-03-2020, 06:55 PM
guywiththemule guywiththemule is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,604
Default

No .
Reply With Quote
  #94  
Old 09-03-2020, 06:58 PM
MountainTi's Avatar
MountainTi MountainTi is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Caroline
Posts: 7,257
Default

Nope. No reason to.
__________________
Two reasons you may think CO2 is a pollutant
1.You weren't paying attention in grade 5
2. You're stupid
Reply With Quote
  #95  
Old 09-03-2020, 07:51 PM
uncle buck's Avatar
uncle buck uncle buck is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 204
Default

This thread is bait for conspiracy kooks.
Reply With Quote
  #96  
Old 09-03-2020, 09:45 PM
Sundancefisher's Avatar
Sundancefisher Sundancefisher is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Calgary Perchdance
Posts: 18,862
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tactical Lever View Post
Fact checking it appears that I was half wrong; thusly also half right. In full regard of available information I still won't rush out to get it. Or rush in, for that matter.

Long term effects still will not be addressed. Plenty of "perfectly safe" products have been pushed on the populace with disastrous consequence.
And we can agree. Animal trials are being done. As for any vaccine...the experts need to show they are safe for use. That will be done as nothing is being hidden. Therefore any problems will be exposed long before vaccine line up forms at the drug store.

There seems to be some shady paranoia that a vaccine will be pushed out and be dangerous. In 1918 maybe. In 2020 with on the online heros wanting to be the first to prove they know more than others will expose any flaws in the research and trials and results.

Remember...the studies...data...results are PUBLICLY available. So there can be no secrets.

Also remember there are many many successful vaccines that have saved millions of lives and with those comes loads of research, knowledge and experience.

I agree there are newer technologies being researched and those need the proper vetting which is happening.

For the most part the same research is happening. They are conducting some phases in parallel but the end result is the same work is getting done.

Those human volunteers in the phase 2 and 3 trials are heros.
__________________
It is not the most intellectual of the species that survives; it is not the strongest that survives; but the species that survives is the one that is able best to adapt and adjust to the changing environment in which it finds itself. Charles Darwin
Reply With Quote
  #97  
Old 09-03-2020, 10:10 PM
jetboat175 jetboat175 is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Lloydminster Alberta
Posts: 139
Default

I will not take any vaccine while the Lib government is in power....0
Reply With Quote
  #98  
Old 09-03-2020, 10:37 PM
MountainTi's Avatar
MountainTi MountainTi is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Caroline
Posts: 7,257
Default

I have no underlying health conditions. Out of a population of well over 4 million, 6 people without underlying health conditions have succumbed to the vid. I like my chances

Fall in line!
__________________
Two reasons you may think CO2 is a pollutant
1.You weren't paying attention in grade 5
2. You're stupid
Reply With Quote
  #99  
Old 09-03-2020, 10:39 PM
pikergolf's Avatar
pikergolf pikergolf is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 11,343
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MountainTi View Post
I have no underlying health conditions. Out of a population of well over 4 million, 6 people without underlying health conditions have succumbed to the vid. I like my chances

Fall in line!
How about those people with underlying health conditions. A vaccine would be a godsend.
__________________
“One of the sad signs of our times is that we have demonized those who produce, subsidized those who refuse to produce, and canonized those who complain.”

Thomas Sowell
Reply With Quote
  #100  
Old 09-03-2020, 10:53 PM
MountainTi's Avatar
MountainTi MountainTi is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Caroline
Posts: 7,257
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pikergolf View Post
How about those people with underlying health conditions. A vaccine would be a godsend.
The original post asked who would take the vaccine (when developed). Some will, some won't. Kinda nice to have the freedoms to make that choice?
__________________
Two reasons you may think CO2 is a pollutant
1.You weren't paying attention in grade 5
2. You're stupid
Reply With Quote
  #101  
Old 09-03-2020, 11:51 PM
britman101 britman101 is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 323
Default

Some may have read the study results that showed the use of coticosteroids has had a positive impact on Covid 19 patient recovery. The results of the study have been published and this is a definite step in the right direction on the fight against this virus.
Reply With Quote
  #102  
Old 09-04-2020, 08:30 AM
Sundancefisher's Avatar
Sundancefisher Sundancefisher is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Calgary Perchdance
Posts: 18,862
Default A very good read and sum up so much of the misinformation

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/corona...d-19-1.5000965
__________________
It is not the most intellectual of the species that survives; it is not the strongest that survives; but the species that survives is the one that is able best to adapt and adjust to the changing environment in which it finds itself. Charles Darwin
Reply With Quote
  #103  
Old 09-04-2020, 08:33 AM
Sundancefisher's Avatar
Sundancefisher Sundancefisher is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Calgary Perchdance
Posts: 18,862
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pikergolf View Post
How about those people with underlying health conditions. A vaccine would be a godsend.
Also

There are people who physically are unable to take vaccine. They must rely on herd immunity to protect them.
__________________
It is not the most intellectual of the species that survives; it is not the strongest that survives; but the species that survives is the one that is able best to adapt and adjust to the changing environment in which it finds itself. Charles Darwin
Reply With Quote
  #104  
Old 09-04-2020, 08:49 AM
MountainTi's Avatar
MountainTi MountainTi is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Caroline
Posts: 7,257
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sundancefisher View Post
Also

There are people who physically are unable to take vaccine. They must rely on herd immunity to protect them.
What percentage of the population is that?
__________________
Two reasons you may think CO2 is a pollutant
1.You weren't paying attention in grade 5
2. You're stupid
Reply With Quote
  #105  
Old 09-04-2020, 09:29 AM
ghostguy6's Avatar
ghostguy6 ghostguy6 is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: edmonton
Posts: 3,116
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MountainTi View Post
What percentage of the population is that?
That would depend on what the vaccine is based on. The flu vaccine for example is based from egg. Anyone who is allergic to eggs should not get the vaccine or at the very least should be closely monitored after getting one. I don't know the actual numbers.
__________________
" Everything in life that I enjoy is either illegal, immoral, fattening or causes cancer!"

"The problem was this little thing called the government and laws."
Reply With Quote
  #106  
Old 09-04-2020, 09:40 AM
PartTimeHunter PartTimeHunter is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Drayton Valley
Posts: 1,257
Default

No. Don't do normal flu shot, certainly won't do whu han flu shot
Reply With Quote
  #107  
Old 09-04-2020, 09:46 AM
aulrich's Avatar
aulrich aulrich is offline
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 3,112
Default

And lets remember if the COVID-19 shot is like the flu shot immunity is temporary.

I won't be taking version 1 either, I am old enough to remember tholidimide.

Anything that until recently needed years of testing to be deemed safe that now can be done in months one or more of these things are in play.

1. a legitamate paradime shift, the need push new tech over the edge. (hey I can be hopeful too)
2. The old system was needlessly complicated (this one is surly part of the reason)
3. Even if the old system was needlessly complicated some legitamate coners have been cut. There are billions if not more at stake for the company that produces the shot. If WE has taught us anything the wheels have already been greased you can never over estimate the impact of government's inherrant vunerability to corruption.
Reply With Quote
  #108  
Old 09-04-2020, 10:07 AM
pikeman06 pikeman06 is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,615
Default

No way. They put brain dissolver in flu shots. Look around, you'll see what I mean.
Reply With Quote
  #109  
Old 09-04-2020, 10:45 AM
Stinky Buffalo's Avatar
Stinky Buffalo Stinky Buffalo is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: A bit North o' Center...
Posts: 11,149
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pikeman06 View Post
No way. They put brain dissolver in flu shots. Look around, you'll see what I mean.
That's true! I have been saying for a long time now that they have been putting stuff in the flu shots to make people vote Liberal/NDP.

For some, their ability to use reason and common sense is still strong enough to override it... For now...
Reply With Quote
  #110  
Old 09-04-2020, 11:12 AM
Sundancefisher's Avatar
Sundancefisher Sundancefisher is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Calgary Perchdance
Posts: 18,862
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by aulrich View Post
And lets remember if the COVID-19 shot is like the flu shot immunity is temporary.

I won't be taking version 1 either, I am old enough to remember tholidimide.

Anything that until recently needed years of testing to be deemed safe that now can be done in months one or more of these things are in play.

1. a legitamate paradime shift, the need push new tech over the edge. (hey I can be hopeful too)
2. The old system was needlessly complicated (this one is surly part of the reason)
3. Even if the old system was needlessly complicated some legitamate coners have been cut. There are billions if not more at stake for the company that produces the shot. If WE has taught us anything the wheels have already been greased you can never over estimate the impact of government's inherrant vunerability to corruption.
Strange post.

Firstly you are wrong. Current established understanding of the Covid19 virus is that the vaccine target receptor is not changing. Therefore a vaccine will work against any other strains.

Secondly. Thalidomide Is a drug. Not a vaccine. It’s use in pregnant women was terrible and yet the drug now has many valuable uses.

Thirdly...your three points were confusing. Fact is the data will all be made public. There can be no WE scandal because Trudeau can’t lie, hide or anything else he does.





But we digress. All these companies and all their data is getting reviewed by all other countries...all other companies...all other researchers, scientists, social justice warriors, paranoid delusionaries, charity groups, IRS, PBS, FOX, CNN....and everyone else. It’s an era of both cooperation and competition.

The biggest challenge is not testing time...but manufacturing time. Testing on thousands and thousands of people and the results being closely reviewed and published.
__________________
It is not the most intellectual of the species that survives; it is not the strongest that survives; but the species that survives is the one that is able best to adapt and adjust to the changing environment in which it finds itself. Charles Darwin
Reply With Quote
  #111  
Old 09-04-2020, 11:23 AM
GENINC GENINC is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 199
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pikeman06 View Post
No way. They put brain dissolver in flu shots. Look around, you'll see what I mean.
Yes, it seems like it.
Reply With Quote
  #112  
Old 09-04-2020, 02:43 PM
CBintheNorth's Avatar
CBintheNorth CBintheNorth is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Communist Capital of Alberta
Posts: 3,759
Default

Take a vaccine for something that has serious/deadly results for less than 0.35% of the people who actually contract the virus?

No, I'm out.

But in all fairness I am healthy.

But I don't get the flu shot either.
Nor do I wear a mask when I'm in a vehicle by myself.

I'm kind of a rebel that way...
Reply With Quote
  #113  
Old 09-04-2020, 06:45 PM
^v^Tinda wolf^v^ ^v^Tinda wolf^v^ is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 4,134
Default

My family and I always get the vaccinations and this one will be no different. I can’t wait for this crap to be under control. I can’t wait to get back to work too! This is lame.
Reply With Quote
  #114  
Old 09-04-2020, 09:19 PM
Cooeylover's Avatar
Cooeylover Cooeylover is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 520
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cody j View Post
Will China be supplying it? Will they try to make in mandatory? if either of these is true I won’t be that enthusiastic about getting needled
Right??
Cause everything else that comes from China is top quality goods, eh?

If I wait long enough and the covid is extinct, then why do I need a shot?
__________________
I can't afford an armed body guard, so I will do that job myself!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OtFQKevxuM
Reply With Quote
  #115  
Old 09-04-2020, 09:22 PM
^v^Tinda wolf^v^ ^v^Tinda wolf^v^ is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 4,134
Default

If China or Russia create the first vaccine I won’t be getting it until you do first.
Reply With Quote
  #116  
Old 09-04-2020, 09:26 PM
Trochu's Avatar
Trochu Trochu is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 7,636
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MountainTi View Post
The original post asked who would take the vaccine (when developed). Some will, some won't. Kinda nice to have the freedoms to make that choice?
Yes.
Reply With Quote
  #117  
Old 09-04-2020, 10:02 PM
jednastka jednastka is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Stony Plain, AB
Posts: 528
Default

absolutely will take it.
Reply With Quote
  #118  
Old 09-05-2020, 12:27 AM
WildBillG WildBillG is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 111
Default

No and I am immune compromised. I also don't get the other flu shots.

On a side note all of us gin owners say we won't give up our guns. Yet here we are and a lot are saying they will get the vaccine. This vaccine is for public saftey and our protection. The same garbage they tell us about gun control. have any of you yes men thought about this. It is the same people telling you both lines of garbage. Maybe we need to think brfore we follow along.
Reply With Quote
  #119  
Old 09-05-2020, 10:30 AM
1899b's Avatar
1899b 1899b is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Sherwood Park Ab
Posts: 6,280
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by uncle buck View Post
This thread is bait for conspiracy kooks.
No I’m asking an honest question from my outdoor enthusiast peers is all.

The chicken pox vaccine came out in 1984 and was 25 years in the making.
Myself, I’m uneasy about a fast tracked vaccine that could be commissioned in mere months. My question is honest and I’m being sincere. No baiting.
__________________
An awful lot of big game was killed with the .30-06 including the big bears before everyone became affluent enough to own a rifle for every species of game they might hunt.
Reply With Quote
  #120  
Old 09-05-2020, 10:32 AM
1899b's Avatar
1899b 1899b is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Sherwood Park Ab
Posts: 6,280
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pikeman06 View Post
No way. They put brain dissolver in flu shots. Look around, you'll see what I mean.
LOL!!! Zing!!!!!
__________________
An awful lot of big game was killed with the .30-06 including the big bears before everyone became affluent enough to own a rifle for every species of game they might hunt.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:52 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.