Whoops

[Don Andersen]

More spills

https://calgaryherald.com/news/local...alberta-rivers

Don

[dodgeboy1979]

4000m3 chlorinated water spill is what i could find on this

[jstubbs]

Originally Posted by dodgeboy1979

4000m3 chlorinated water spill is what i could find on this

I like how it's a FB comment on the article that says more about the spill than the article itself.

"
"2018-09-10
Westbrick Energy Ltd.
Lodgepole
(34 km SW)
Facility
Chlorinated Water
No emergency phase
Notification Date:

2018-09-10
Volume:
4000 m3

Summary:
Due to a mechanical failure a holding tank collapsed, release of chlorinated water occurred into a creek which flowed into the Nordegg River. An environmental impact assessment is underway."

[The Cook]

Don't most of us drink chlorinated water?

[dodgeboy1979]

not a FB comment, that's right from the AER compliance dashboard. There was no other comments entered on it to date.

[dodgeboy1979]

Originally Posted by The Cook

Don't most of us drink chlorinated water?

and swim in it too

[kmacisaac]

Originally Posted by The Cook

Don't most of us drink chlorinated water?

We do, but this evening I'm going to choose a whiskey and leave the bleach bottle in the laundry room.

[DiabeticKripple]

Ha I was supposed to go frac this well and it got pushed back a few weeks. Now I know why

[Kurt505]

Originally Posted by The Cook

Don't most of us drink chlorinated water?

Fish don’t.

[The Cook]

But we all know what they do in the water, thats why they chlorinate.

[DiabeticKripple]

It’s basically pool water that was spilt.

[Don Andersen]

Originally Posted by DiabeticKripple

It’s basically pool water that was spilt.

Do you know the concentration of chlorine in the water?

Don

[RandyBoBandy]

Originally Posted by kmacisaac

We do, but this evening I'm going to choose a whiskey and leave the bleach bottle in the laundry room.

I find mixing a bit of bleach with my JD, takes the edge off of it

[mchris44]

Originally Posted by Kurt505

Fish don’t.

They do

[Bushrat]

Originally Posted by Don Andersen

Do you know the concentration of chlorine in the water?

Don

Pretty much the same as pool water often no more than tap water. They use clorine in the tanks to kill waterborn viruses or insect life that may be present in the tank from being introduced into ground or flowing water in the case of a spill. You would get higher readings from a water well that has been recently shocked with chlorine. Was talking to one of the guys called to go out there the day it happened to do water sampling, he and his crew could not get any measurable readings of clorine from several sites along the river downstream of the feeder creek the spill went into.

The spill was downstream of the HWY 620 bridge on a small feeder creek tributary of the Nordegg river. Chlorine dissipates/evaporates rapidly especially in moving water. I can see closing the river below the spill but why upstream plus all tributaries upstream which have not been affected is beyond me. I wonder how long before they re open it, or is this an excuse to close it like they closed the Pembina river system and all tributaries above Lodgepole. This type of water has been used for decades, is commonly spilled, rarely reported and rarely if ever shown to damage anything in the low concentrations it is mixed with water. Perhaps if that amount of water at the concentrations normally used was spilled into a small landlocked dugout it could possibly affect bacterium and insect life before it dissipated.

I think closing the river upstream of the spill to fishing is an over reaction and a bit puzzling.

[DiabeticKripple]

Originally Posted by Don Andersen

Do you know the concentration of chlorine in the water?

Don

No but it’s usually used to balance out PH and kill some bacteria.

This was more than likely a c-ring that let go.

[Bigwoodsman]

Wonder why there wasn’t any spill trays, berms and liners in place to contain the spills.

You’d think with all the environmental concerns about spills and contamination these days that the use of the above mentioned controls would be mandatory.

BW

[Grizzly Adams]

Originally Posted by Bushrat

Pretty much the same as pool water often no more than tap water. They use clorine in the tanks to kill waterborn viruses or insect life that may be present in the tank from being introduced into ground or flowing water in the case of a spill. You would get higher readings from a water well that has been recently shocked with chlorine. Was talking to one of the guys called to go out there the day it happened to do water sampling, he and his crew could not get any measurable readings of clorine from several sites along the river downstream of the feeder creek the spill went into.

The spill was downstream of the HWY 620 bridge on a small feeder creek tributary of the Nordegg river. Chlorine dissipates/evaporates rapidly especially in moving water. I can see closing the river below the spill but why upstream plus all tributaries upstream which have not been affected is beyond me. I wonder how long before they re open it, or is this an excuse to close it like they closed the Pembina river system and all tributaries above Lodgepole. This type of water has been used for decades, is commonly spilled, rarely reported and rarely if ever shown to damage anything in the low concentrations it is mixed with water. Perhaps if that amount of water at the concentrations normally used was spilled into a small landlocked dugout it could possibly affect bacterium and insect life before it dissipated.

I think closing the river upstream of the spill to fishing is an over reaction and a bit puzzling.

Chlorine is a gas dissolved in the water, dissipates fairly rapidly.

Grizz

[Big Grey Wolf]

Sorry guys, chlorine although used to disinfect drinking water kills fish even at very low concentrations. It will do some damage in the creek if fish bearing, possibly the upper reaches of the Nordegg. 4000 cubic meters is a pile of contaminated water.

[trophybook]

I know a few oil companies out there that spew about 200 decks of dirty wet gas into the bush when their compressors blow down. Aer just turns a blind eye

[Map Maker]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams

Chlorine is a gas dissolved in the water, dissipates fairly rapidly.

Grizz

Chlorine dissipates by reacting with anything biological. That's how you know that there is nothing living (ie bacteria, virus)in your drinking water pipes, is when you have residual chlorine in your water at the outlet.

Who knows the severity of the spill, that's why they are investigating. The CEO said it was just chlorine, and he is sworn to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help him Eric Clapton.

[Bushrat]

Originally Posted by Big Grey Wolf

Sorry guys, chlorine although used to disinfect drinking water kills fish even at very low concentrations. It will do some damage in the creek if fish bearing, possibly the upper reaches of the Nordegg. 4000 cubic meters is a pile of contaminated water.

Spill is in the lower portion of the Nordegg far away from the upper reaches.