Are the lotteries fixed?

[Red Bullets]

Even though these tickets are from 2013 it still raises concerns. Note the tickets are for different lotteries on the same day. This pic was posted recently by a guy claiming a family member bought them. The tickets were bought as quick picks. He was just going through the families old tickets and noticed the similarities. What are the odds?

(This info was on the web. Maybe I am naive or maybe not. I know not to believe everything the interweb says but it is interesting.)

[Talking moose]

He should buy a lottery ticket. The odds of that are astronomical.

[TimeOff]

Send some gift cards to the Lottery Corporation with your number picks and find out in a week?

[JBE]

Must be, I have never won

[pikergolf]

I'd say it's a copy, the one on the left is a little fuzzy. The odds of the same numbers coming up like that are impossible.

[bat119]

Originally Posted by pikergolf

I'd say it's a copy, the one on the left is a little fuzzy. The odds of the same numbers coming up like that are impossible.

Except one for the western 649 and the other is the regular 649?

[Red Bullets]

Originally Posted by pikergolf

I'd say it's a copy, the one on the left is a little fuzzy. The odds of the same numbers coming up like that are impossible.

Unless the lottery is fixed. The extra numbers are different and some of the other digits on the tickets are different too.

[35 whelen]

And the extras are different numbers

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[YYC338]

Originally Posted by pikergolf

I'd say it's a copy, the one on the left is a little fuzzy. The odds of the same numbers coming up like that are impossible.

Does look at little odd doesn't it? The odds of the correct 6/49 ticket are 14.7 million to 1. Having the same 3 numbers combinations show up on the same day for different lotto's would be astronomical. Or...there's something fishy in the system. Why would someone fake a ticket that wasn't a winner? Or maybe there is a winner here, just wasn't claimed. Now that would really suck.

[pikergolf]

Originally Posted by bat119

Except one for the western 649 and the other is the regular 649?

Pretty easy to do, make a copy cut the numbers out, clear tape on the numbers over the numbers that are there and make another copy.

[bat119]

The 2nd control number under the date on both tickets is the same 1267

The tickets were bought at the same time one for the western and the regular they both aren't for the same draw, the computer printed the same numbers on both tickets

[Grizzly Adams]

I'm still waiting for someone to explain this guy's luck.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...puted-1.803229

Grizz

[Donkey Oatey]

It's called play both. You get the same quick pick on the two lotto's.

https://www.wclc.com/games/combo-pla...combo-play.htm

Nothing sinister here folks. Move along.

[CaberTosser]

Originally Posted by Donkey Oatey

It's called play both. You get the same quick pick on the two lotto's.

https://www.wclc.com/games/combo-pla...combo-play.htm

Nothing sinister here folks. Move along.

You beat me, I was going to inquire with Mrs Caber, she worked Comm's management at WCLC for a decade. Of course a person could fill out the selections to play their same lucky numbers, but in that case they would not state Quick Pick on them as the sample ones do.

[Arty]

Originally Posted by Red Bullets

Unless the lottery is fixed. [...]

You kidding me? At 14.7 million to one, darn rights it's fixed. By definition. Otherwise they wouldn't be in the lottery business. The house always has the edge, otherwise they wouldn't be doing it.

Find some financial derivatives play, pool your spare cash into it with a dozen others, and guaranteed your odds will still be orders of magnitude better than in any official or illegal lottery.

[Puma]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams

I'm still waiting for someone to explain this guy's luck.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...puted-1.803229

Grizz

I see this guy at the Airdrie Coop Lotto booth all the time. Still playing.

[CaberTosser]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams

I'm still waiting for someone to explain this guy's luck.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...puted-1.803229

Grizz

Just as you'll see chronic gamblers trudging into casino's to spend their kids lunch money, the same goes for some lottery players. Despite his wins this guy is still at it, a smart person could invest the winnings and get away with working part time, but his compulsion won't allow him to do that. My wife has been in on the investigations of these types. Note that's an old link Grizz posted, Mrs Caber remembers this guy.

[bat119]

The addiction isn't satisfied by winning you always want more and that's why the casino's are so successful there's always more losers than winners most of the time the winners become losers in the end.

The guy was a lucky chronic, to him playing is more important than winning.

[JD848]

Yes,the western 649 and keno are both drawn from a computer,every other draw is done with air and balls bouncing around.Western 649 doesn't post the number of prizes won either.
The only game never won in vegas 20/20 in keno numbers was done by a guy at a montreal casino back to back on his own computer and they arrested him.Now he works for them in there casino.No draws should ever be done with a computer ,just like vlt's there programed same as the stupid poker you buy at terminals all programed.Avoid all these games because they steal your money cause it's not a game of chance,so if it's not a game of chance it's a rigged game .Stealing at the highest level and no one cares except for our loyal government .

[Who Da Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Puma

I see this guy at the Airdrie Coop Lotto booth all the time. Still playing.

I have seen him in a few different locations, I think he just does his rounds everyday kinda like a job.
WDF

[Fish along]

Originally Posted by JD848

Yes,the western 649 and keno are both drawn from a computer,every other draw is done with air and balls bouncing around.Western 649 doesn't post the number of prizes won either.
The only game never won in vegas 20/20 in keno numbers was done by a guy at a montreal casino back to back on his own computer and they arrested him.Now he works for them in there casino.No draws should ever be done with a computer ,just like vlt's there programed same as the stupid poker you buy at terminals all programed.Avoid all these games because they steal your money cause it's not a game of chance,so if it's not a game of chance it's a rigged game .Stealing at the highest level and no one cares except for our loyal government .

This sounds like a very fair statement in my opinion, the government don't build huge luxurious buildings and fill them with gambling machines not knowing the odds ,it's a legal way to rob people. Sure you win sometimes but most often you lose..What's to say These machines are not geared some way to recognize the player and whether he's ready for a payout or not,this would not surprise me at all.

[Gray Wolf]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

He should buy a lottery ticket. The odds of that are astronomical.

X2

[JD848]

The two tickets are of a quick pic sheet,happens daily on those 2 draws.Buy both and the same numbers will appear on both tickets,if you pic them on a sheet and put in both draws the same appears on both tickets,except the extra is always different.Better odds for not winning,because no 2 draws will likely both be the same.

[EZM]

The odds of 7 numbers, in three sequences to repeat, in ANY order is simply not statistically conceivable.

It's Fake.

As far the actual odds .... it's gotta be something like a one in

.....49,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, 000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, 000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, 000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,013

lol

[Badgerbadger]

Originally Posted by Fish along

This sounds like a very fair statement in my opinion, the government don't build huge luxurious buildings and fill them with gambling machines not knowing the odds ,it's a legal way to rob people. Sure you win sometimes but most often you lose..What's to say These machines are not geared some way to recognize the player and whether he's ready for a payout or not,this would not surprise me at all.

The laws surrounding legal gambling are such that, depending on game, the facility gets to keep between 8% and 60% of the amount of cash put into it. A game of "skill" such as poker is legislated that the facility providing the service takes a defined percentage of each pot.

Gambling is entertainment, and appeals to basic human motivations. Why shouldn't the providers of these services get paid for their investments?

The addiction to gambling is indeed an issue, and needs to be viewed and dealt with in a similar manner to any other addiction.

[zabbo]

Originally Posted by bat119

Except one for the western 649 and the other is the regular 649?

Not actually 6/49. They are western lotto max and regular lotto max.

[Fish along]

Originally Posted by Badgerbadger

The laws surrounding legal gambling are such that, depending on game, the facility gets to keep between 8% and 60% of the amount of cash put into it. A game of "skill" such as poker is legislated that the facility providing the service takes a defined percentage of each pot.

Gambling is entertainment, and appeals to basic human motivations. Why shouldn't the providers of these services get paid for their investments?

The addiction to gambling is indeed an issue, and needs to be viewed and dealt with in a similar manner to any other addiction.

Entertainment appealing to basic human motivations,absolutely, and taken advantage of by the government to a point where they are not much better or if not worse than the Mafia.The fact that many people can go there and lose a few bucks and leave is not what they are making money on.its the people that go there and put their paychecks on the line,kids are probably hungry at home many of them get in so deep they commit suicide.Wow some great entertainment.I wonder when they are going to get into prostitution,I'm sure the the decision wouldn't be based on morals.

[Badgerbadger]

Originally Posted by Fish along

Entertainment appealing to basic human motivations,absolutely, and taken advantage of by the government to a point where they are not much better or if not worse than the Mafia.The fact that many people can go there and lose a few bucks and leave is not what they are making money on.its the people that go there and put their paychecks on the line,kids are probably hungry at home many of them get in so deep they commit suicide.Wow some great entertainment.I wonder when they are going to get into prostitution,I'm sure the the decision wouldn't be based on morals.

Your personal morals don't give you the right to control the rest of society.

Gambling is legal. Governments regulate and tax it. Companies profit off it. You don't like that, vote against it. That's how democracy works.

[tri777]

Remember these days when there was some integrity in the lotto?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx4fPm8TYsM

Everything all invisible behind the curtain now..

[Zip]

If I was a betting man...and I am, I'd bet the lotteries are rigged big time...it's way to big an opportunity for the govt's to steal our money while we hand it over so easily..it's like here give me a $6.00 quick pick so I have a chance at winning a free play which you can then tell me it costs a $1.00 to play the free one as well...wow, of course it's rigged everyone...wouldn't you do the same if people were so happy to hand you their money for free..worlds a mess!!!
Zip