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03-02-2016, 01:48 PM
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I'm about to throw a Model 70 338 in a new synthetic stock. Which bottom metal would you go for? The two piece stuff is not factory but milled steel replacement parts from Williams. The one piece is Aluminum and made by PT&G.
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03-02-2016, 01:53 PM
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I'd go 1
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03-02-2016, 02:00 PM
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I think 2 looks better and is lighter, plus aluminum doesn't rust.
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03-02-2016, 02:26 PM
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I think I would choose No 2, I like the looks and weight of the one piece aluminum better.
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03-02-2016, 02:58 PM
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#1 for wood stock. Deep blue and walnut, yummy. #2 for synthetic if saving weight is important.
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03-02-2016, 03:55 PM
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#2
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03-02-2016, 04:03 PM
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338....heavy parts to tame it.
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03-02-2016, 04:16 PM
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Does this rifle have the middle screw hole in the receiver to accommodate the 2 piece? I prefer the one piece myself, no middle screw to possibly stress the action and the floor plate is always aligned with the latch, not always so on the two piecers if the inletting dimensions of the stock isn't quite precise. I.e if the inletting is off you may have the latch operating properly yet the screw is loose, when you tighten the screw the latch may not operate smoothly nor at all. You might end up shimming the middle screw or thinning down the stock. It is not often on a conversion of the single piece to a two piece conversion that does not require fitting for the floorplate to open/close properly. I simply am not a fan of the three screws. I prefer the receiver be attached front and rear and throw the middle screw two piece crap away. JMO grin
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03-02-2016, 05:39 PM
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#2 Like Bushrat I prefer the 2 screw ones.
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03-02-2016, 05:46 PM
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If I went with the three piece bottom metal I would have a middle pillar installed.
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03-02-2016, 07:07 PM
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[QUOTE=chuck;3160663]If I went with the three piece bottom metal I would have a middle pillar installed.
If its of proper dimension and bedded properly the 3 piece should work just fine. Still I like the simplicity of the 1 piece. Also if it is a South Carolina or one of the new Portugese assembled Model 70's there is no provision for the middle screw, the receiver would have to be taped to accept it.
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03-02-2016, 07:09 PM
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It has provision for the middle screw.
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03-02-2016, 08:03 PM
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Of the two you have pictured I like the one piece as it has the actuation lever inside the trigger guard, I find those easier to operate and more aesthetically pleasing.
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03-02-2016, 09:12 PM
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The weight difference would be negligible to me, as it lands in a place where an extra couple ounces won't really hurt anything. I've never used that Williams 2 piece bottom metal but I would have no doubts about it's integrity. Regardless, I just "feel it" more with the 1 piece...and I have used the 1 piece aluminum bottom metal from PTG and couldn't find any faults with it.
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03-03-2016, 07:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigJon
The weight difference would be negligible to me, as it lands in a place where an extra couple ounces won't really hurt anything. I've never used that Williams 2 piece bottom metal but I would have no doubts about it's integrity. Regardless, I just "feel it" more with the 1 piece...and I have used the 1 piece aluminum bottom metal from PTG and couldn't find any faults with it.
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I will say, that that was not the case with this PT&G unit. It took a bunch of file work to get it to latch and keep it latched properly.
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03-03-2016, 08:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chuck
I will say, that that was not the case with this PT&G unit. It took a bunch of file work to get it to latch and keep it latched properly.
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Yeah...I have heard a few PTG bottom metal complaints before. Just haven't had my own reason to complain...
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03-03-2016, 09:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moo Snukkle
#1 for wood stock. Deep blue and walnut, yummy. #2 for synthetic if saving weight is important.
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My thought aswell.
#1 for wood, #2 for plastic
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03-03-2016, 11:02 AM
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One piece
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03-03-2016, 08:38 PM
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One piece
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03-03-2016, 08:54 PM
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I'd go one.
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03-03-2016, 10:03 PM
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If it's not your light weight climb a mountain gun, go with the steel.
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03-04-2016, 05:51 AM
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finish
could also depend on the type of finish you are looking for. The hot blue on #1 looks great, and you can't hot blue aluminum.
Personally I like #1.
As previously mentioned, a few extra ounces for a .338 is not a really bad thing!
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