As upset as many are, what good things do you think the NDP might bring?

[barsik]

the greatest or most glaring detriment of NDP supporters and politicians is that they are idealists, not realists. as such, their political and economical decisions can range from questionable to totally irrational. on a small scale, like municipal or county, this can be absorbed. on a provincial or federal level the damage can be irreversible, depending on the term of their infestation.

[slickwilly]

Originally Posted by propliner

And those programs won't cost a cent to anyone. Luckily, that money grows on trees.

It does for us in forestry, especially with the dollar at 1.25...

[fish_e_o]

i like the idea of bringing a product to completion in Canada

ie. oil to gas

that will create some jobs. however as a business owner i'm very nervous that they don't know who cuts the hay to feed them.

i am currently receiving proposals from shareholders regarding moving my business. if it makes sense and we're still not making money in alberta after some time we need to take a good long look at that.

this is the current reality and i'm sad to say that if even one company leaves countless jobs will be lost. not just from the one company but the other companies that rely on them for work.

[omega50]

Can the Orange Queen resist the temptation to succumb to the power and sense of entitlement that overtook 2 other supposedly highly principled women in Alberta?
Three used to be my lucky number

[edmhunter]

Originally Posted by omega50

Can the Orange Queen resist the temptation to succumb to the power and sense of entitlement that overtook 2 other supposedly highly principled women in Alberta?
Three used to be my lucky number

Of course not! I wonder how much this is going to cost the average family in Alberta?

[hal53]

Originally Posted by slickwilly

It does for us in forestry, especially with the dollar at 1.25...

...and the socialists absolutely love logging...

[smartypants]

Originally Posted by slickwilly

It does for us in forestry, especially with the dollar at 1.25...

It's up to 1.195 this morning, perking up with wti moving past 62usd/bbl.

[slickwilly]

Originally Posted by hal53

...and the socialists absolutely love logging...

BCTS has got to be one of the biggest welfare programs in the whole country. Talk about the best of both worlds: socialist loggers!

[waterninja]

Don't know if it's been mentioned on this thread but one thing that NDP like is govt. run auto ins. I wonder if that could be coming down the pipeline.
One terrible outcome of Govt auto ins, like in BC , is if you go to an auto wrecker to get a part for your vehicle you end up paying much more then you would here in AB. Been there done that. BC auto wrecker owner stated that reason any salvaged parts were so expensive was due to ICBC.

[Okotokian]

Seriously, I didn't vote or support the NDP, but I think there might be more environmental protection, habitat protection, etc. The NDP government will be less likely to do industry's bidding without question, let them tear up the eastern slopes and pollute the rivers around Ft. Mac. And some refining of more product here might not hurt.

I don't trust them to competently manage the budget and economy, but maybe our wildlife will enjoy NDP governance. I hope we at least get THAT benefit out of it. We shall see.

[Leeper]

After watching long enough, people will begin to realize that liberals (like the NDP) like to tax the people and distribute the money amongst their friends and supporters as well as taking a cut for themselves where possible. On the other hand, conservatives (Like PC's or BC Liberals) like to tax the people and distribute the money amongst their friends and supporters as well as taking a cut for themselves where possible. The difference is only in the list of friends and supporters. Both camps will table budgets of increasing size and taxes for those who really pay the bills will never go down. Leeper

[KegRiver]

Originally Posted by Leeper

After watching long enough, people will begin to realize that liberals (like the NDP) like to tax the people and distribute the money amongst their friends and supporters as well as taking a cut for themselves where possible. On the other hand, conservatives (Like PC's or BC Liberals) like to tax the people and distribute the money amongst their friends and supporters as well as taking a cut for themselves where possible. The difference is only in the list of friends and supporters. Both camps will table budgets of increasing size and taxes for those who really pay the bills will never go down. Leeper

Sad, but true.

[stuckincity]

Originally Posted by score

There is plenty of precedent in Canada, the US and Europe, to avoid leftist government for anyone who has been paying any attention at all. Nothing good can come from voting in the NDP here in Alberta IMO.

Getting rid of them now will be harder than some seem to think.

Like I said in another post, the other problem with socialists is that they want to have their cake and eat their neighbors' cake too.

Also - they scream for more and cheaper gasoline and at the same time want to tax the petroleum industry out of existence.

[Redfrog]

"He says if Albertans split the vote between Wildrose and the governing Progressive Conservatives, they will end up with an NDP government which would hurt the province’s economic position."

Brian Jean nailed it.

[Mistagin]

Originally Posted by KegRiver

First, I did not vote NDP and never will.

Having said that, I think I understand why so many did.

I think the answer to the question is in the election results. I believe that the people who voted NDP are hoping that voting NDP will send a strong message to all politicians, "anything is better then a corrupt government".

I hope they get their message across but from what I'm hearing from the losers, it didn't work. Maybe time will change that, but I doubt it.

And in 4 years there will be a whole lot more trough sucking corrupt politicians

[Wiz]

Originally Posted by slivers86

Two thumbs up.

As an AHS employee who has been without contract for a couple years now, I am excited with the possibility of change in our government, and hopefully a new direction for healthcare. I get why people don't like the NDP, but theres always a bit of dark to get to the light at the end of the tunnel.

I'm happy my hard earned salary and bonus based on my high performance at work will assist you and yours.

[Battery]

Originally Posted by 58thecat

What is a NDP? An Oiler fan?

No, thats a DNQ (did not qualify)

[Scott h]

Originally Posted by sns2

Well, I read their platform thoroughly before I cast my vote, and I'm sure that much of what is in there would appeal to the crusty farts who are calling for the end of the earth tomorrow.

One that will be good is they have promised to do away with both corporate and union donations to political parties.

And if they built upgrader(s) to keep value added jobs in Alberta that would be a good thing.

However, someone will be along shortly to bitch and complain.

They are not going to be radical, as politicians don't want to just gain power, they want to stay in power also. Notley is smart enough to know that their good fortune was the result of colossal mismanagement and blanket ignoring of the electorate.

She also knows that voters will turn to the WRP just as quickly as they turned to her.

I guess it depends on what you call radical. The NDP BASE really wants to stop oil sands development. They really want to stop future pipelines. They really want a carbon tax.
She may be smart but she still has to follow with what the voters that put her power want.

[Scott h]

Originally Posted by edmhunter

Of course not! I wonder how much this is going to cost the average family in Alberta?

Probably a bit. The easiest way for her to balance the books is to give Alberta a sales tax and then add a carbon tax.
As she has a good solid majority there is absolutely no way to stop her.

[smartypants]

That would be the case if most of the voting windfall were a vote for NDP platform when in reality it was a herd vote for the party with momentum to 'get the PC's out'. Big difference. I would agree though that she ain't gonna be able to pay for everything w/ just +2% corp tax w/o PST and some sort of energy premium, which translates into more expensive everything including gas, power etc etc.

[Xbolt7mm]

Originally Posted by bobalong

Better Education
Better Healthcare
Compassion and Respect for our Seniors
Co-operation with Companies to implement new jobs
Corporate Welfare will disappear
AHS waste will be trimmed
More long term beds
Restore Apprentice program
I believe they will do what they said they would do, and in four years if they don't, then I am sure the WR will get a chance to strut their stuff

your exactly correct,, and thats where the 60 percent income tax and the provincial tax comes from is to pay for it, its not free

[lmtada]

Went to NDP platform. Gone!! Check out MLA Bio history? Gone!! AB will get what they asked for.

[smartypants]

Originally Posted by lmtada

Went to NDP platform. Gone!! Check out MLA Bio history? Gone!! AB will get what they asked for.

Ya it's a lot easier to be held accountable for your promises when you disappear them. This must be that 'change' Alberta voted for.

[BlackHeart]

The only good thing I could come up with;

Mandel can suckle-off into retirement.

[Redfrog]

Originally Posted by omega50

Can the Orange Queen resist the temptation to succumb to the power and sense of entitlement that overtook 2 other supposedly highly principled women in Alberta?
Three used to be my lucky number

Seriously?? You think you'll get lucky with Rachel?

The screwing we get won't be worth the screwing we got, when she takes all our stuff and retires.

[fish_e_o]

Originally Posted by Redfrog

Seriously?? You think you'll get lucky with Rachel?

The screwing we get won't be worth the screwing we got, when she takes all our stuff and retires.

you gave me an idea... we get her pregnant

[rugatika]

Originally Posted by fish_e_o

you gave me an idea... we get her pregnant

Well, she looks a little better than Redford.

[Dewey Cox]

Originally Posted by Ryan.M.Anderson

For those people who are complaining about tax increases. Have you actually calculated how much more you will be paying. Although I am not a tax expert I am a designated professional and can tell you this. After the tax increases, if you were poor before you will still be poor. If you were rich before you will still be rich.



In all reality the tax increase will affect maybe the top 5% of the population.



As taxes are based on profits they will never make you go broke. For example (this is super simplified), Oil Company A made TAXABLE income of $100,000 they use to pay $10,000 in provincial taxes, they will now pay $12,000. As you can tell this is not going to drive them into bankruptcy.



No one likes paying taxes but taxes do need to exist to pay for roads, hospitals, education, etc.

It will affect everyone. If every corporation suddenly has less profit, they'll have to raise their rates to make up for it. Now everything is more expensive.
There seems to be an attitude that a corporate tax increase will just mean a few millionaires will have to buy one less pair of solid gold pants a year. I run my own business, and I'm doing it to make a living for me and my family. If it costs me more to run my business, I'll have to make it up somewhere. And that's going to be on your next bill. Everyone's next bill, no matter who they voted for.

[Redfrog]

Originally Posted by fish_e_o

you gave me an idea... we get her pregnant

Good plan!!! which one of you rats wants to bell the cat?

[Sledder1]

Notley has already cancelled the mortgage tax hike prentice implemented. Off to a good start!