Can you tell me what’s the main beam?

[Kurt505]

I’m having a hard time figuring out what the main beam is, is it a main frame 4x4, 4x5, or 5x5?

I think it’s a 4x5 because of the ridge on the inside of the beams but I’m not an official measurer so I can’t say for sure. There are 3 points at the end of each main beam, the left beam seems fairly obvious but the right beam is confusing.

If anyone could give me an answer it would be appreciated, and if there are any official measurers on board, can you explain how to measure palmation?

Thanks.

[MooseRiverTrapper]

I bet you could get it officially scored both ways Kurt. I would say bottom.

[Kurt505]

Originally Posted by MooseRiverTrapper

I bet you could get it officially scored both ways Kurt. I would say bottom.

So you figure it’s the green? The guy that scored it said it could go either way and that 5 measurers will most likely give 5 different measurements.

[Dewey Cox]

What a wonderful problem to have.

[MooseRiverTrapper]

Yes I think it’s green. But it could go either way depending on the scorer I think.

[BuckCuller]

The outside beam picture is better to judge the beam, I would measure the green line and score it as a 5X4 frame.

[H380]

Bottom on both sides..nice buck

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[Lefty-Canuck]

It’s likely the green and symmetry to the other side needs to be considered when calling it the main beam.

Palmation is measured the same way taking the curvature of the main beam and marking where the point starts to come off the outside of the beam.

LC

[brendan's dad]

I say green

and

the red will be score as an abnormal point with a common base to the green

but that is just a guess.

[coxy95]

I’d say it’s the red, it follows the contour of the rest of the beam when looking at it from the front, it would also match the palmation of the other beam better measured that way. Just my opinion

[Kurt505]

Pretty much everyone has said the green but I thought it would have been the red because of how it flows with the ridge and how it curls in.

Here’s a view from the top so you can see what I mean.





It makes a big difference in the score because if it’s scored as a 5pt on that side the smallest H4 measurement is 5-3/8 but if it’s a 4pt, at half way between the G3 and tip of beam it’s 6-7/8”. Also, if it’s a 5pt the beam is 5/8 shorter and the length of where the point meets the beam is almost 2” shorter than what the other point would be. It would gross about 4” bigger.

[BuckCuller]

It looks that way but you measure on the outside of the beam. Myself I would judge it by the outside not the inside.

[GMX]

Doesn’t matter how you measure it score won’t do that monster justice. It’s a specimen either way just my opinion. But green would be my guess.

[WinefredCommander]

Main beam is red as it’s where the tines erupt from.

[MooseRiverTrapper]

Originally Posted by Kurt505

Pretty much everyone has said the green but I thought it would have been the red because of how it flows with the ridge and how it curls in.

Here’s a view from the top so you can see what I mean.

Ya I see what you mean there. Tape runs around the outside of the beam as you know. Pick which way makes the beams more even lol.

[Lefty-Canuck]

It honestly needs to be seen in person and manipulated to determine. The “ridge” is just related to the mass. The points are always scored starting at where they emerge on the outside of the beam...never the inside unless the point is deemed non-typical. Main beam is never measured where the red line has been drawn.

LC

[Kurt505]

Here’s the difference I’m talking about.

[Lefty-Canuck]

I don’t understand your second picture with the verticle lines.

LC

[coxy95]

I agree with that 100%, and I also agree that score won’t do that buck justice.

[coxy95]

If they call the top portion a tine it’s the smallest point between those two points so the green line, if they call the top portion the main beam then it’s half way between the last point and the tip and therefore the red line.

[Kurt505]

Originally Posted by Lefty-Canuck

I don’t understand your second picture with the verticle lines.

LC

That’s the H measurements. If it’s a 5pt beam then the narrowest part is 5-3/8 (green), but if it’s a 4pt the distance between the last point and the end of the beam is 10” so the red line is at the 5” mark and it’s 6-7/8” there.


Here’s another view, it helps show why I think the main beam is the red.





Here’s the side profile of the other beam



And here’s what it would look like without the green part of the right beam.

[Kurt505]

Originally Posted by coxy95

I agree with that 100%, and I also agree that score won’t do that buck justice.

I knew as soon as I walked up to the buck that the score would never do it justice, but the awe factor is off the charts. It’s like an average set of antlers but like looking at them through a magnifying glass. The “H” measurement half way up two of the tines is 4-1/8”, that’s the size of an average main beam, lol.

[longshot270]

Looks like a 4x4 with abnormals on the ends. Might score better that way too. 4x5 just means deductions plus typical tines have to come off the top of the beam I believe. The green beam would be a non typical point but holding the rack might make me think differently.

[sage 13]

As some of said hard to tell with out being able to see in person but looks like red is main beam in some of the pictures.

[Kurt505]

The picture of it front on, on the hood of the ranger sort of shows it best. The ends of both main beams are crab claws (red circles), then both beams have matching drop tines coming off the bottom (green circles), only the one on the left beam isn’t developed.

[longshot270]

Also a point has to be at least one inch long and the length must exceed the width of it’s base. It’s hard to judge all of that from the pictures because if you count that bottom projection and it’s 5 inches long but the base width is 5 1/8 then it’s not a point.

[longshot270]

I’d agree with the red circles being the main beams. But like everyone mentioned it’s a great buck.

[Kurt505]

Originally Posted by longshot270

Also a point has to be at least one inch long and the length must exceed the width of it’s base. It’s hard to judge all of that from the pictures because if you count that bottom projection and it’s 5 inches long but the base width is 5 1/8 then it’s not a point.

It’s going to be a very challenging rack to score for anyone. Either way, it won’t make book, it nets about 165 typical and 187 non typical, but I’m all about the gross score and it’ll gross the highest as a 4x5, and that’s how it would score if the main beams are the red circles. It’ll gross somewhere between 193 and 198.

[6.5 shooter]

My vote goes to follow the "vein line" which seems to run on both antlers....

[Kurt505]

Originally Posted by 6.5 shooter

My vote goes to follow the "vein line" which seems to run on both antlers....

Yes, on the right antler there are two vein lines, one on the top and one on the bottom. It feels like two beams joined with a web right from the G1