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Old 05-27-2017, 06:12 AM
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Coyotes can become habituated and not aggressive. I agree humans are going to get bit and much worse but realistically you cannot prevent this. The best you can do is educating people and killing the most obvious aggressive ones. Killing a few coyotes and poisoning in a city is ridiculous.
You are ignorant to the way of the yote...they adapt and will become aggressive if not controlled, it is thier nature to take anything that they can and will learn what's easy prey and what is not worth tackling.
Trust me when they get aggressive around here, we take care of the problem and then they back off to the point as soon as they see you they bolt, wait a few years and another batch of aggressive ones show up but I believe it is directly proportional to the growth of thier population in which they get territorial and find food a little harder to come by so they start pacing you and your dog etc then it's time to take out the little six and adjust thier numbers.
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Old 05-27-2017, 10:34 AM
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I'm really sorry guys but you are all going about this the wrong way. There is a forum filled with trappers much more skilled than me. But I do understand one thing and hopefully I don't anger to many people saying this, but the answer is trappers. Set solid anchored padded footholds throughout these areas. This time of year coyotes are very territorial a few flat sets, these are sets that act like a scent marking by a outside coyote. A few weeks and boom coyote numbers are knocked down and fido is safe.
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Old 05-27-2017, 05:23 PM
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This thread reminds me of similar threads that propose trappers or the government or someone else thin out the wolves or keep them in check or some pie in the sky dream that is always based on wishful thinking. Don't believe me, I've been there, all you need to do is phone a couple of city councillors and give them your proposals. I know exactly what the reply will be. Nothing like a reality check from time to time.
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Old 05-27-2017, 06:05 PM
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I'm really sorry guys but you are all going about this the wrong way. There is a forum filled with trappers much more skilled than me. But I do understand one thing and hopefully I don't anger to many people saying this, but the answer is trappers. Set solid anchored padded footholds throughout these areas. This time of year coyotes are very territorial a few flat sets, these are sets that act like a scent marking by a outside coyote. A few weeks and boom coyote numbers are knocked down and fido is safe.
Can you imagine the anti's seeing a coyote in a trap ........ that's probably worse than an arrow sticking out his butt.

The only issue with poison or traps is that in can be indiscriminate - so it's not an ideal solution where people have their dogs running around - so I'd prefer the buckshot/slug or arrow approach.

Close the area to people who can't handle reality - open it up to the rest of us, we may not get them all, but they will learn fear - which is what these coyotes need.
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Old 05-27-2017, 06:59 PM
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I'm really sorry guys but you are all going about this the wrong way. There is a forum filled with trappers much more skilled than me. But I do understand one thing and hopefully I don't anger to many people saying this, but the answer is trappers. Set solid anchored padded footholds throughout these areas. This time of year coyotes are very territorial a few flat sets, these are sets that act like a scent marking by a outside coyote. A few weeks and boom coyote numbers are knocked down and fido is safe.
Wont work , first off they can be trapped yes , but that don't kill them , you still have to shoot them between the eyes to kill them , in the city , there,ll be an outcry over that , nope best way Bow and Arrow , by the pros.
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Old 05-27-2017, 07:12 PM
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All coyotes live trapped in the city will be helicopter relocated to Banff NP after receiving a complimentary grooming, deep tissue massage and steak dinner at the Palliser.
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Old 05-27-2017, 10:10 PM
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This thread reminds me of similar threads that propose trappers or the government or someone else thin out the wolves or keep them in check or some pie in the sky dream that is always based on wishful thinking. Don't believe me, I've been there, all you need to do is phone a couple of city councillors and give them your proposals. I know exactly what the reply will be. Nothing like a reality check from time to time.


I would expect that each and every elected city official would be praying and holding their breath and closing their eyes and ears a hoping that the coyote problem would just go away in some miracle or whatever.

What is needed is for voters to get angry enough to protest at city hall. What is needed is for protestors to point out that the coyote situation is getting dangerous and the city may end up defending themselves in a legal action.

I don't think many are angry or concerned and all I have seen is a couple articles in the Sun or Herald.

This is a sad situation. These coyotes are no longer in the wild and the wild is not longer in the coyotes. Same goes for the Canada Geese.

Maybe the green areas are closed to the public so that something can be done without the public watching. I know the City of Calgary has done something similar with another species that was causing problems.
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Old 05-28-2017, 11:58 AM
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I would expect that each and every elected city official would be praying and holding their breath and closing their eyes and ears a hoping that the coyote problem would just go away in some miracle or whatever.

What is needed is for voters to get angry enough to protest at city hall. What is needed is for protestors to point out that the coyote situation is getting dangerous and the city may end up defending themselves in a legal action.

I don't think many are angry or concerned and all i have seen is a couple articles in the sun or herald.

This is a sad situation. These coyotes are no longer in the wild and the wild is not longer in the coyotes. Same goes for the canada geese.

Maybe the green areas are closed to the public so that something can be done without the public watching. I know the city of calgary has done something similar with another species that was causing problems.
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I'm really sorry guys but you are all going about this the wrong way. There is a forum filled with trappers much more skilled than me. But I do understand one thing and hopefully I don't anger to many people saying this, but the answer is trappers. Set solid anchored padded footholds throughout these areas. This time of year coyotes are very territorial a few flat sets, these are sets that act like a scent marking by a outside coyote. A few weeks and boom coyote numbers are knocked down and fido is safe.
Area closed, trappers move in, still require to shoot if using a foot hold trap and if wanker Willis takes his dog into this closed area and gets it trapped you would never hear the end of it...tip toe around the do gooders...XBow, call them in, sit and wait, hunt them.
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Old 05-28-2017, 12:15 PM
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Area closed, trappers move in, still require to shoot if using a foot hold trap and if wanker Willis takes his dog into this closed area and gets it trapped you would never hear the end of it...tip toe around the do gooders...XBow, call them in, sit and wait, hunt them.
.....and the coyote is replaced before the dead one cools off!
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This is why I stay away from towns and citys. Too much wildlife for my liking.
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This is why I stay away from towns and citys. Too much wildlife for my liking.
Absolutely True.

I live on the river valley / ravine in West Edmonton and I see Coyotes, Deer almost daily and have seen Moose on a regular basis.

There is more coyotes here (within the city limits) than many people think. They are bold. Watched them trot like domestic dogs along the sidewalks on trash night in the wee hours of the morning looking for a quick and easy meal.

They don't even slow down and barely look at me as I drive by.

My dogs go nuts when they are near the yard and are walking by the area.
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Old 05-29-2017, 03:56 PM
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I'm really sorry guys but you are all going about this the wrong way. There is a forum filled with trappers much more skilled than me. But I do understand one thing and hopefully I don't anger to many people saying this, but the answer is trappers. Set solid anchored padded footholds throughout these areas. This time of year coyotes are very territorial a few flat sets, these are sets that act like a scent marking by a outside coyote. A few weeks and boom coyote numbers are knocked down and fido is safe.
This is the best plan so far and can give some education to the cityiots about the humane trapping using approved traps.
Not that it will ever happen though because Calgary does not have so much of a coyote problem but rather a people problem.
Idiot voters far out weight those of us that know better and the city has created their own wildlife issues.
I have little sympathy for a dog owner that is not smart enough to protect their pet for a coyote.
Good god, a walking stick and some aggression should be enough.
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