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11-13-2018, 04:18 PM
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I cringe at the thought of my tax money getting wasted on olympic trash. So too bad that they cant just take it off the yes voters
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11-13-2018, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Gade81
I cringe at the thought of my tax money getting wasted on olympic trash. So too bad that they cant just take it off the yes voters
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same here.
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11-13-2018, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by JB_AOL
Ok, I'll play..
Show us that the Olympics DIDN'T stimulate our economy for decades and bring in billions. You can't, can you.
Is it a coincidence that Alberta's economy rebounded right after '88? Maybe.
O&G was (and still kind of is) an "old boys club". It could've been something as simple as a group of CEO's came to Calgary to party in '88 and decided instead of closing shop, and moving HQ out east, they decided to stay here or possibly move here. Who knows. I know one of the big reason's ALOT of people live here (including myself) is because of the proximity to the mountains, ie;lifestyle.
Don't get me wrong, I'm still voting NO (mostly because of the lack of answers), but there's no proof either way.
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Combination of NEP ending 1985 and the oil price rebounding in 1989.
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11-13-2018, 04:59 PM
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yes
Here is a note from a local Alberta athlete.
I say vote YES not for yourself but for someone else or someone else's kids!
Rosanna Crawford, Biathlete
Yesterday at 8:15 AM ·
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I thought I would share how the Olympics have affected my life. I was just a bun in the over in 1988. But those Olympics would start me on the path I have taken, having the Nordic Centre allowed me to grow a passion and love for cross country skiing and biathlon. But really I would say the 2010 Olympics are the reason why I can call my self a 3X Olympian. As soon as Canada was awarded the Vancouver Olympics there was funding that came with it. In 2006 I was identified as a 2010 hopeful, along with 20 other athletes. Had we not received the 2010 games I am not sure what the future of Canadian Biathlon would look like today. Without the funding I received to train smarter and harder I probably would have retired after I graduated high school.
So vote YES for Calgary 2026, because not only will they benefit Calgary, but they will benefit generations to come.
#YESCalgary2026
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11-13-2018, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by triguy
Here is a note from a local Alberta athlete.
I say vote YES not for yourself but for someone else or someone else's kids!
Rosanna Crawford, Biathlete
Yesterday at 8:15 AM ·
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I thought I would share how the Olympics have affected my life. I was just a bun in the over in 1988. But those Olympics would start me on the path I have taken, having the Nordic Centre allowed me to grow a passion and love for cross country skiing and biathlon. But really I would say the 2010 Olympics are the reason why I can call my self a 3X Olympian. As soon as Canada was awarded the Vancouver Olympics there was funding that came with it. In 2006 I was identified as a 2010 hopeful, along with 20 other athletes. Had we not received the 2010 games I am not sure what the future of Canadian Biathlon would look like today. Without the funding I received to train smarter and harder I probably would have retired after I graduated high school.
So vote YES for Calgary 2026, because not only will they benefit Calgary, but they will benefit generations to come.
#YESCalgary2026
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Bi-athlete?
These tax payer funded athlete's are like special welfare case's, they use up more tax dollar's training and not working than they ever end up contributing, of course they are all for a free tax payer funded ride.
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11-13-2018, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by bobtodrick
Billions!
And Billions!!
Please provide where you got those stats.
You see, your whole argument is worthless when you over exaggerate to a ridiculous extent.
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Post # 28. I was quoting Does it all out Doors. I was saying that his argument was worthless with a ridiculous exaggeration !!!
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11-13-2018, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ReconWilly
Bi-athlete?
These tax payer funded athlete's are like special welfare case's, they use up more tax dollar's training and not working than they ever end up contributing, of course they are all for a free tax payer funded ride.
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And guess what? We don't need another Olympics for her little bun in the oven, if and when she has one, to be a Biathlon Olympian because they can train at the Canmore Nordic center which is still there and very functional already. That's the legacy of the 88 Olympics. You don't double the legacy when you have a second Olympics. You just waste money on an expensive party.
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11-13-2018, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by JB_AOL
Show us that the Olympics DIDN'T stimulate our economy for decades and bring in billions. You can't, can you.
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Show me that the 2013 flood DIDN’T happen because I wore blue undies three days in a row. You can’t, can you.
There’s a reason “you can’t prove a negative” is a cliche.
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11-13-2018, 06:33 PM
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Show me that the 2013 flood DIDN’T happen because I wore blue undies three days in a row. You can’t, can you.
There’s a reason “you can’t prove a negative” is a cliche.
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Absolutely. That argument is right up there with "prove to me Bigfoot doesn't exist" You can't so it must exist then, right?
Flawed thinking like that leads to poor decisions like voting yes.
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11-13-2018, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Sundancefisher
Combination of NEP ending 1985 and the oil price rebounding in 1989.
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Prove it was that vs the Olympics.
Silly.. yes. But guess what you can't prove it either way. And it's pretty ignorant to think that the Olympics had nothing to do with that recovery. All levels of govt being forced to spend money in Calgary because of the Olympics was a huge plus.
My point is. The Olympics ( at that time) was great for Calgary and brought in alot of jobs and money.
Currently.. our govt at every level is screwing things up and we don't need this added debt. We NEED pipelines, refineries, etc.
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11-13-2018, 06:51 PM
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So what came of the voting?
I bet it was no but the people that be will say yes.....watch, just watch.
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11-13-2018, 06:56 PM
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Absolutely. That argument is right up there with "prove to me Bigfoot doesn't exist" You can't so it must exist then, right?
Flawed thinking like that leads to poor decisions like voting yes.
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Flawed . Lol. Pot meet kettle..
I'm not basing my decision off the local "rumor" mills.
The '88 Olympics definitely defined Calgary on the world market and was a large help for our economy at the time. But it was different times.
The largest problem with '26 bid is they are being very vague as to what we as Calgarians will get for the amount spent.
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11-13-2018, 06:56 PM
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Hell ya! Bring it on! Those tight butts!!!! Where do I pay?
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11-13-2018, 06:59 PM
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Im thinking the new jobs it will create might help kickstart the local economy... there should be significant spinoff. Hopefully if it goes ahead, its managed well, meaning to me, construction of facilities that can remain viable after the games, and that its intelligently funded/overseen.
On the other hand, it makes me nervous how so many countries bailed early on entering the race.
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11-13-2018, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by JB_AOL
Ok, I'll play..
Show us that the Olympics DIDN'T stimulate our economy for decades and bring in billions. You can't, can you.
Is it a coincidence that Alberta's economy rebounded right after '88? Maybe.
O&G was (and still kind of is) an "old boys club". It could've been something as simple as a group of CEO's came to Calgary to party in '88 and decided instead of closing shop, and moving HQ out east, they decided to stay here or possibly move here. Who knows. I know one of the big reason's ALOT of people live here (including myself) is because of the proximity to the mountains, ie;lifestyle.
Don't get me wrong, I'm still voting NO (mostly because of the lack of answers), but there's no proof either way.
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Where did I say it brought in no revenue?
No matter how often I read my post I can't find that.
According to https://canadaalive.wordpress.com/20...olympics-1988/ total revenue from the games over the course of the games and the following decade was $3 billion. Take away the billion it cost to put the on and it made a total profit of $2 billion.
That's not 'billions and billions' in my mind.
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11-13-2018, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by bobtodrick
Where did I say it brought in no revenue?
No matter how often I read my post I can't find that.
According to https://canadaalive.wordpress.com/20...olympics-1988/ total revenue from the games over the course of the games and the following decade was $3 billion. Take away the billion it cost to put the on and it made a total profit of $2 billion.
That's not 'billions and billions' in my mind.
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Sorry I misread you post. In my mind anything over a million is billions.. at least it seems that way.. lol.
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11-13-2018, 07:51 PM
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This pretty much sums it up.
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11-13-2018, 07:55 PM
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Sorry I misread you post. In my mind anything over a million is billions.. at least it seems that way.. lol.
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Read post #28 ! It was your side that said Billions and Billions. In LOST revenue !
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11-13-2018, 08:54 PM
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Read post #28 ! It was your side that said Billions and Billions. In LOST revenue !
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I know. That was their reason for voting no. Not mine.
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11-13-2018, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ReconWilly
Bi-athlete?
These tax payer funded athlete's are like special welfare case's, they use up more tax dollar's training and not working than they ever end up contributing, of course they are all for a free tax payer funded ride.
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So should we abolish the entire Canadian athletic program, as they don't pull their weight as tax payers, early enough?
Man so many negative people these days, can't open their minds to look at anything from a different angle.
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11-13-2018, 09:31 PM
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I'm going to predict a landslide win for "No" and they'll apply to be a host city anyway.
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11-13-2018, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Trochu
I'm going to predict a landslide win for "No" and they'll apply to be a host city anyway.
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I tend to agree with you, Nenshi will find a way to make this happen.
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11-13-2018, 09:47 PM
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I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.
Winston S. Churchill
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11-13-2018, 09:50 PM
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I really hope it is a resounding NO!
Speaking of downtown buildings being empty, and the inability to push a pipeline out through BC.
a Major part of the "Calgary" Olympic plan is that ALL of the Major Skiing and Snowboarding events would be held in WHISTLER BC!!!
AS residents of Alberta, we wouldn't even get have the opportunity to see them live without having to spend all kinds of money in BC on travel, accommodations, and tickets ( which would for sure filter $$ through whistler) Not to mention I am sure there would be some Alberta tax payer Olympic money spent there.
The thought of passing even $0.50 to BC, almost makes me want to puke in my mouth.
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11-13-2018, 09:57 PM
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56% no.
Last edited by badger; 11-13-2018 at 10:05 PM.
Reason: Noted the post below
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11-13-2018, 09:58 PM
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Unofficial #yycvote results for Vote 2018:
304,774 Ballots Cast
132,832 FOR Calgary hosting (43.6%)
171,750 AGAINST Calgary hosting (56.4%)
YAY!
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11-13-2018, 10:05 PM
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Since the Alberta Government contribution requires a "YES" vote on the plebiscite, this will take some real political end runs from Nenshi to get what he wants.
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11-13-2018, 10:07 PM
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11-13-2018, 10:10 PM
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Now it’s time to vote Nenshi out!
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11-13-2018, 10:13 PM
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We now need to start a Campaign
#SpenshiResignNOW
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