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10-29-2016, 07:23 PM
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Northern Bear Golf Course, Strathcona County
Looks like course is in financial trouble big time. Can't pay the bills and even the locals are bailing out. Several of residential homes are for sale. Too bad. Really nice course.
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10-29-2016, 07:42 PM
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I thought that course was doomed from the get go. Too far out of town to keep busy enough to pay the bills.
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10-29-2016, 07:47 PM
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Course was doing well until new owners took over six years ago.. Extremely busy with tournaments and lots of members up to that point. New management not the best. Not that far out with the Anthony Henday.
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10-29-2016, 07:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by arrow dog
Course was doing well until new owners took over six years ago.. Extremely busy with tournaments and lots of members up to that point. New management not the best. Not that far out with the Anthony Henday.
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Nice Course. First class all the way.
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10-29-2016, 08:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by arrow dog
Looks like course is in financial trouble big time. Can't pay the bills and even the locals are bailing out. Several of residential homes are for sale. Too bad. Really nice course.
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Where are you getting the info from?
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10-29-2016, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by diamond k
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I'm interested in this as well. I don't golf anymore, but I do hunt 2 properties that border Northern Bear golf course. Have seen many a deer and and some of them nice bucks, on the course.
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10-29-2016, 08:40 PM
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People will drive to a nice course to play it. Something else must be at play. Too high green fee's or memberships. Heard it was a nice course but never played it when we could golf other nice courses for less. That was when it first opened. Some group will buy it when the owners have no choice to sell for pennies and try to make it better.
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10-29-2016, 09:39 PM
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Golf is dying in North America. I see many, many golf courses closed in Florida, and homes on golf courses are not selling for the premiums it used to.
Average age of golfers now? 63 years.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos...ing-popularity
http://www.economist.com/blogs/econo...ist-explains-1
Not to mention, ecologically, golf courses are horrible for phosphorus and nitrate runoff and polluting wetlands. Of course, cost is another issue.
So, it is no surprise that some golf courses in the Edmonton area are closing.
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10-29-2016, 09:40 PM
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The Sun has an article that the course is in receivership.
http://www.edmontonsun.com/2016/10/2...moths-payments
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10-29-2016, 09:49 PM
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Thanks
Interesting. I was looking at a lot last year and glad. I decided against it.
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10-29-2016, 09:56 PM
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I live 1/2km away from the bear and I could see this coming. I'm an avid golfer and frequent this beautiful course. I definitely don't have a issue landing a tee/time even at prime times.
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10-29-2016, 10:14 PM
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This is going to be morencommon. i worked at a large very nice and expensive course the summer and on average they got about half the normal business they would see. Shame about the the small course they they really are nice for comunitys.
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10-30-2016, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by hilt134
This is going to be morencommon. i worked at a large very nice and expensive course the summer and on average they got about half the normal business they would see. Shame about the the small course they they really are nice for comunitys.
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We have a 9 hole, sand green course in our village. In fact, we actually have a bylaw that allows people to drive from their garage directly to the golf course on the road. (Drives the new RCMP constables nuts, because as far as I know, no other place outside of Arizona or Florida allow that).
We are pretty expensive though. $75.
A year.
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10-30-2016, 01:57 AM
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Gone Hunting
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I've always thought a golf course was a waste of good Labrador training ground.
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10-30-2016, 03:14 AM
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This is unfortunate, I really enjoy playing out there. Unfortunately golf is like an expensive hobby and higher end courses will be the first to feel the effects of the slow economy. As much as I like the course. Its hard to put up $120 a round when there are several options close by for half that price.
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10-30-2016, 03:51 AM
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Big article in front section of Edmonton Journal Oct 29.
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10-30-2016, 06:42 AM
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they have been plagued by problems and set backs since the beginning, lots around the golf course were over priced, stringent architectural designs if you build, water problems for a few years and the course was in terrible shape during that time, over priced green fees not to mention a pile of competition in the Edmonton area regarding good golf courses to play, but they are not alone there are a lot of courses struggling during the last couple years, times are tough and the first thing that gets cut off when money is tight is recreation, how long do you think Whitetail Crossing in Mundare can survive ??? they have been operating on a shoe string for years when times were good.
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10-30-2016, 08:16 AM
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Make for a nice off-road mx track.
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10-30-2016, 08:24 AM
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Golf rounds are declining!
Avb3,is right . Going down even quicker in the USA .
Lots of courses outside major urban area are in trouble .
Once seniors are your major source of income your hooped .
aVB is that 75. For the year .....how are house taxes ?
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10-30-2016, 08:29 AM
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Would make a great (Private),Dog walk park. Young generation seem like they like Dogs, cats more than golf.
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10-30-2016, 08:46 AM
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Make the whole area wifi accessible and turn it into a Pokemon safari.
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10-30-2016, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Newellknik
Avb3,is right . Going down even quicker in the USA .
Lots of courses outside major urban area are in trouble .
Once seniors are your major source of income your hooped .
aVB is that 75. For the year .....how are house taxes ?
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I think they give us value; I checked the financials before I moved here, and was surprised with the fact the village has no debt at all. I'm not aware of many municipalities that don't have debt.
Yes, the fee is $75/year. Or $10/round via the donation bucket.
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10-30-2016, 09:10 AM
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Make a nice shooting range out there...
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10-30-2016, 09:24 AM
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Too bad. Great course but it's pricey and with the economy 120$ a round is tough to justify.
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10-30-2016, 09:29 AM
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Make a nice shooting range out there...
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Doubt many of those high priced homes would appreciate that.
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10-30-2016, 10:56 AM
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Northern Bear GC
Always unfortunate to see these headlines make it to the front page of the papers. Northern Bear is a great course, one I have played on numerous occasions but the 2 hour drive from home kept me from playing it more often.
Just like every other business, the golf industry is not immune to the state of the current economy. Sometimes even with good management bad things happen. Alberta has seen it share of business foreclosures over the past two years, wait until our new carbon tax comes in, guaranteed we'll see more nails in more coffins next year.
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10-30-2016, 11:10 AM
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The golf industry has shot themselves in the foot. I loved to golf but they priced me out of it years ago. Anyone with children could hardly sleep at night making the financial commitment golf takes today. One has to practise and play a couple of times a week to be into it and that is a huge investment not even including gear and refreshments.
Eckville's Last Hill use to do fine until they priced locals out of it. Rimbey had a lovely little course and it is now gone as well. This was long before the latest down turn in the economy.
At a buck a hole there would still be a line up. At three bucks a hole +++ it becomes an expensive way to frustrate yourself.
I could either hunt/fly fish or play golf. It would seem many have made the same decision that I made.
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