Dog vs Porcupine

[elkhunter11]

I wonder if the porcupine still has any quills?

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[Bigwoodsman]

That’s crazy. I feel so sorry for that pup.

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[Talking moose]

Originally Posted by Bigwoodsman

That’s crazy. I feel so sorry for that pup.

BW

That’s the thing. By the amount of quills, he attacked multiple times. It will do it again. Some dogs learn the first time, others never do. I’d put 10 bucks on that it’s a dumb dog.

[elkhunter11]

Some dogs feel the pain and retreat, some get mad and attack.

[bloopbloob]

That dog has a porcupine for a face! Jeebus!

[Red Bullets]

Seems like dogs and porcupines will always be mortal enemies. Other animals butt heads with porcupines too.

[Talking moose]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

Some dogs feel the pain and retreat, some get mad and attack.

Stupid ones yes.

[FCLightning]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

Stupid ones yes.

I don’t think you know what you’re talking about


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[270person]

Poor doggy. Had the privilege of taking 40 -50 quills out of the neighbours labs face out at our cabin. Lots of fun pulling the ones protruding into his mouth. Even with 3 adult males, the leash double wrapped around a tree, and his head pinned against it tight he was still able to bite through my watch which looking back was better than if I hadn't been wearing it.

I can still hear his howls while we were doing it.

[Talking moose]

Originally Posted by FCLightning

I don’t think you know what you’re talking about


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I’m more speaking of the next encounter. Not the initial one.

[FCLightning]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

I’m more speaking of the next encounter. Not the initial one.

If my goose dog gets a good wing lashing from a wounded Gander I would much prefer that he goes back in after the next one too


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[kinwahkly]

I once hunted with a guy from Taber with an Old GSP pointer who would just want to kill porcupines. Saw him rop into one. He looked like the Lion KIng. Eventually I helped him out with a E collar. After many training sessions he eventually gave it up. He spent quite a few dollars on vets previously.

[Red Bullets]

Originally Posted by FCLightning

I don’t think you know what you’re talking about


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Put two dogs together. Was it the stupid one that started it or the stupid one that joined in and tried to finish it?

[colvert]

My Brittany had 6 encounters in his first six years!, just a few quills fortunately and just one sedation for a few quills in his mouth. He is now 9 and all is quiet so far . would anyone know how to keep a dog still so quills can be removed without sedation?

[Red Bullets]

Originally Posted by colvert

My Brittany had 6 encounters in his first six years!, just a few quills fortunately and just one sedation for a few quills in his mouth. He is now 9 and all is quiet so far . would anyone know how to keep a dog still so quills can be removed without sedation?

Duck tape and a vise. haha Just a joke. I love dogs. Sedation for lots of quills seems would be easier on the dog.

[FCLightning]

Originally Posted by colvert

My Brittany had 6 encounters in his first six years!, just a few quills fortunately and just one sedation for a few quills in his mouth. He is now 9 and all is quiet so far . would anyone know how to keep a dog still so quills can be removed without sedation?

You learn to be quick with the needle nose pliers - move in quick, grab and pull straight back. Focus on the next quill and prepare to attack it - then repeat. Less than 50-60 quills that are not all the way to the back of the throat is doable in any dog I have had.

[270person]

Originally Posted by FCLightning

You learn to be quick with the needle nose pliers - move in quick, grab and pull straight back. Focus on the next quill and prepare to attack it - then repeat. Less than 50-60 quills that are not all the way to the back of the throat is doable in any dog I have had.

If the quills have gone through the snout and protrude into the mouth it's easier on the dog to pull them from inside and not do more damage with the barbs. Not easy for the person doing the pulling tho. Fido' s going to be stressed and likely isn't going to cooperate.

[FCLightning]

Originally Posted by 270person

If the quills have gone through the snout and protrude into the mouth it's easier on the dog to pull them from inside and not do more damage with the barbs. Not easy for the person doing the pulling tho. Fido' s going to be stressed and likely isn't going to cooperate.

For sure


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[jstubbs]

Ouch. Few weeks ago I saw a porcupine limping down a sidewalk adjacent to the river valley here in Edmonton. It was missing a entire section of quills on its back. Felt bad for the little critter, and even worse for whatever dog (or yote or whoever) tried to eat it for dinner.

[Puma]

In the 80's I had a Rottie x Shepard who would find them on the farm, kill them and leave them on the doorstep. She looked like Santa with that white beard. I don't know how many times I had to use small vice grips and pull quills. She wouldn't learn, I guess it was too much fun. The other two dogs wouldn't go near the Porcs.

[thumper]

I once helped a friend pull quills from his yellow lab. Two of us 200+ pounders, lying on top of her to pin her down, and she was wagging her tail and happier than a pig in mud ! She was out hunting, and her 2 favourite people were rolling around on the ground with all of their attention centered on her! She'd pause for a nano-second when every quill was pulled, but other than that, she loved it!

[alacringa]

When I saw the thread, I thought it was going to be about Butch. Glad it wasn't. Schaffer took quills twice (5 the first time, 7 the second time) before he was 2; but he found one last fall and pointed it, so I'm hoping he's learned his lesson. The poor dog in that video must have really gone after it. Unbelievable.

[270person]

Originally Posted by thumper

I once helped a friend pull quills from his yellow lab. Two of us 200+ pounders, lying on top of her to pin her down, and she was wagging her tail and happier than a pig in mud ! She was out hunting, and her 2 favourite people were rolling around on the ground with all of their attention centered on her! She'd pause for a nano-second when every quill was pulled, but other than that, she loved it!

That's amazing.

[Talking moose]

Originally Posted by FCLightning

If my goose dog gets a good wing lashing from a wounded Gander I would much prefer that he goes back in after the next one too


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Ok you win. Dogs that repeatedly get a face full of quills are highly intelligent.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by FCLightning

If my goose dog gets a good wing lashing from a wounded Gander I would much prefer that he goes back in after the next one too


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If I send my dog for a bird, I expect him to get that bird, but I don't want my dog chasing/attacking animals that he hasn't been sent after.

[FCLightning]

Originally Posted by elkhunter11

If I send my dog for a bird, I expect him to get that bird, but I don't want my dog chasing/attacking animals that he hasn't been sent after.

Just pointing out that the pain of quills is not really a deterrent to most solid working dogs.

As for the not chasing/attacking - folks I know have to train their dogs to not chase after rabbits, deer, cats, etc., especially with the versatile breeds. Not sure why you would expect a porcupine to be any different.

[Hawkeye]

I was a practicing veterinarian in the early 1980's. We had some dogs that kept coming back in with quills. One I specifically recall got increasingly nastier with each visit....it was the 3rd or 4th time and we could barely get him in the door, he was so aggressive and nasty.
Being able to sedate them certainly makes quill pulling an easier task!

[bubba300]

I had a yellow lab and nephew had a malmute,when they got together they would take turns on them.The lab knew they had to come out and usally didn't put up a fight but the malmute was a rodeo.If either of them was alone they were fine, but together they went looking for them.

[BUSHRVN]

Our last chocolate Lab got into a *****ly pig once. He just layed there, no restraint at all and let me get every one out, even in his mouth. Dumb to get hit in the first place but smart and trusting enough to let us do the job with no fight.
Not like one of my sister's mutts, ratchet strapped to a power pole after trying the three guy route. Gave up after getting almost all of them but the in the mouth ones and they took it in.

[happy honker]

Originally Posted by BUSHRVN

Our last chocolate Lab got into a *****ly pig once. He just layed there, no restraint at all and let me get every one out, even in his mouth. Dumb to get hit in the first place but smart and trusting enough to let us do the job with no fight.
Not like one of my sister's mutts, ratchet strapped to a power pole after trying the three guy route. Gave up after getting almost all of them but the in the mouth ones and they took it in.

I have a chocolate lab also. One day after a run in the river valley, we got back to the truck and I noticed he had 8 or 10 quills sticking out of the loose part of his skin underneath his jaw and down into his chest. Thankfully because of where they were, they were really easy to pull out. I don't know if he just bumped into one, was sniffing a carcass, or whatever, but I never saw him tangle with the porcupine, and he always stays real close to me, so no idea what happened.
Knock on wood, considering all the time in the bush with him that's been it. Some real horror stories though!