Harper

Jimboy · #1 04-06-2011, 04:21 AM

Well l see THE MAN Stephen Harper is off to Toronto today to focus on jobs and free training for new immigrants , nice , very , very , nice man , just where l want my tax dollars to go.

deanmc · #2 04-06-2011, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimboy

Well l see THE MAN Stephen Harper is off to Toronto today to focus on jobs and free training for new immigrants , nice , very , very , nice man , just where l want my tax dollars to go.

Many people could learn a lesson from this. Politicians pay attention to immigrants issues because a very high percentage of them vote while only a few of us that were born here seem to bother.

rugatika · #3 04-06-2011, 05:13 AM

I just heard yesterday that 1 in 5 employed people in Canada work for the government. Toooo many if you ask me. Should be more like 1 in 1000 people....and that is likely too high as well. Time to start shrinking government. It is a plague that is growing out of control.

blackpheasant · #4 04-06-2011, 06:22 AM

SMALLER GOVERNMENT, LOWER TAXES, NEW JAILS to lock up more CREEPS, NO GUN REGISTRY, this is my UTOPIA.....Lets get the Immigrant vote this time around, GO STEVEN GO!!!!!!

rhuntley12 · #5 04-06-2011, 07:20 AM

Good luck getting any politician to downsize the government to any extent. Too many votes lost when the freebies start going away.

209x50 · #6 04-06-2011, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by blackpheasant

SMALLER GOVERNMENT, LOWER TAXES, NEW JAILS to lock up more CREEPS, NO GUN REGISTRY, this is my UTOPIA.....Lets get the Immigrant vote this time around, GO STEVEN GO!!!!!!

But people on here want bigger government. Look at all the programs they are clamouring for right now. Training courses for crossbow hunters, training and licensing for pack dogs are just two for example. All these ideas cost in time and money and create useless government jobs.

eastcoast · #7 04-06-2011, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimboy

Well l see THE MAN Stephen Harper is off to Toronto today to focus on jobs and free training for new immigrants , nice , very , very , nice man , just where l want my tax dollars to go.

immigrants and old people vote the most, and training for immigrants is a good idea in the long term they will make more money and pay more taxes.

220swifty · #8 04-06-2011, 08:38 AM

We are going to lose Canada as we know it to apathy. True story.

Okotokian · #9 04-06-2011, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by blackpheasant

, NEW JAILS to lock up more CREEPS,

Why do we need new jails? Use the ones we have. Not nice? too bad. My son had to share aroom in student residence at university, why shouldn't a killer have to do the same?

FishBrain · #10 04-06-2011, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Okotokian

Why do we need new jails? Use the ones we have. Not nice? too bad. My son had to share aroom in student residence at university, why shouldn't a killer have to do the same?

Exactly, and I bet you had to PAY for your son to share a room for his "education"

TheLegend · #11 04-06-2011, 09:35 AM

I am all for the new fighter jets and jails and the gun registry abolished.
GO STEVEN GO!!!!!

Iron Brew · #12 04-06-2011, 09:48 AM

We have a terrible lot to choose from. Harper who guided the failure of the private member bill to ensure "our" support and money during this election, Taliban Jack and Iggy... well...

blackpheasant · #13 04-06-2011, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Okotokian

Why do we need new jails? Use the ones we have. Not nice? too bad. My son had to share aroom in student residence at university, why shouldn't a killer have to do the same?

Once we rid the Country of the Liberal soft on crime culture we will need the extra space. Get back to the old"do the crime-do the time" sort of speak..

Redfrog · #14 04-06-2011, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Okotokian

Why do we need new jails? Use the ones we have. Not nice? too bad. My son had to share aroom in student residence at university, why shouldn't a killer have to do the same?

How many people do you think are incarcerated in Canada in federal prisons?

I just want to know your guess.

chasingtail · #15 04-06-2011, 01:18 PM

18,000

Okotokian · #16 04-06-2011, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by chasingtail

18,000

I'll go with his guess, because I don't know and don't care.

Judges don't sentence repeat offenders to probation and early release because there is no room in prisons. They sentence them leniently because "jail is draconian, and this poor soul is just misguided. His lawyer says he has really changed, and I believe him. Everyone deserves a seventh chance."

blackpheasant · #17 04-06-2011, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Okotokian

I'll go with his guess, because I don't know and don't care.

Judges don't sentence repeat offenders to probation and early release because there is no room in prisons. They sentence them leniently because "jail is draconian, and this poor soul is just misguided. His lawyer says he has really changed, and I believe him. Everyone deserves a seventh chance."

Exactly, we must begin to replace some of these very Liberal Judges and start changing the Culture of the whole Justice system in this country....

hal53 · #18 04-06-2011, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Redfrog

How many people do you think are incarcerated in Canada in federal prisons?

I just want to know your guess.

My guess is not mearly enough judging by the amount of crimes committed by repeat offenders and parolees

Redfrog · #19 04-06-2011, 01:42 PM

Whaddaya mean you don't care.

That guess may be correct, but I heard just over 14,000 last week.

In a country of 34 million to have 14.000 or 18000 in Federal prison boggles my mind.
How can our legal system be backed up and so inefficient, plea bargains, minimum sentences or worse no time at all and only those numbers incarcerated.

It's easy to see the Libs howling because Harper didn't tell how much more prisons were gonna cost and at the same time leave out these figures, They make it seem like 30 per cent of the population is under lock and key.

I also heard how much was spent to maintain the prison system. Equally surprising.

And Okie you better put away that pathetic apathetic mask and get involved.

Donkey Oatey · #20 04-06-2011, 02:13 PM

From wikipedia.

In 2001, Canada had about 32,000 people in prison or about 0.13% of the total population. The United States was the country with the highest number of people incarcerated. There were more than 2.2 million people living in jail (about 0.7% of the total population). The European average is of 0.2% of the total population, with France and Germany having lower rates than Canada, but with the United Kingdom, Spain and most of Eastern Europe having higher ones.

Redfrog · #21 04-06-2011, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Donkey Oatey

From wikipedia.

In 2001, Canada had about 32,000 people in prison or about 0.13% of the total population. The United States was the country with the highest number of people incarcerated. There were more than 2.2 million people living in jail (about 0.7% of the total population). The European average is of 0.2% of the total population, with France and Germany having lower rates than Canada, but with the United Kingdom, Spain and most of Eastern Europe having higher ones.

The figures I heard were from 2007-2008 at just over 14. 000. It must be correct as I heard it on the electric radio.

Your numbers don't even make sense.

In 2001 a lot more crooks were in gov't with the Libs in charge. And the touchy feely Libs wouldn't have more misunderstood voters locked up than the evil Conservatives ...........would they?

Oh wait a minute. that 30.000 figure may be those incarcerated in provincial prisons across Canada total.