elk in 509

blackonblackfx4 · #1 10-17-2020, 10:46 AM

Looking for any help in harvesting a bull this fall in WMU 509, Athabsca/Grassland/Alpac Area. Have heard of elk, seeing tracks but cant find any elk

marky_mark · #2 10-17-2020, 01:28 PM

Me too
I’d like to shoot a 6x6 also
Preferably 360” +
Will trade you intel for waterfowl hot spots from last year

obsessed1 · #3 10-17-2020, 01:40 PM

Spend your time learning how to find elk...it will make harvesting one easier. Have you done all the work necessary to locate/ find elk? Do you call? Track? Glass? Do you know how to find where the Elk want/ like to be in that area? Once you've earned the skills needed to find and hunt them it becomes much easier to harvest them. It still often takes miles and miles of walking. Your not likely going to get the responses your after by asking the question you asked......tryone like this " can someone help me with tips on how to find my own Elk in wmu...."you'll get better responses...or just try it the lazy way and cross your fingers..

35 whelen · #4 10-17-2020, 02:11 PM

I have a 1/4 of land 12 ladder stands, 12 trail cameras ,have been hunting this land for 12 years, Dont kill a bull elk every year ,its a process do your part and maybe you will kill a Bull elk someday ,Success rate in Alberta is around 17% GOOD LUCK.

Positrac · #5 10-17-2020, 02:32 PM

It’s a tough spot to get permission. The elk will be where the least pressure is. That could be land where getting permission is impossible or along the river in hard to get to areas. They are there though. It’s amazing what a guy sees when he doesn’t have a tag.

honda610 · #6 10-17-2020, 03:24 PM

Good luck they are extremely pressured in archery season. And as stated move when they feel the pressure. Another 2 weeks and you will need a draw for 509 as well. I cant wait

blackonblackfx4 · #7 10-17-2020, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by obsessed1

Spend your time learning how to find elk...it will make harvesting one easier. Have you done all the work necessary to locate/ find elk? Do you call? Track? Glass? Do you know how to find where the Elk want/ like to be in that area? Once you've earned the skills needed to find and hunt them it becomes much easier to harvest them. It still often takes miles and miles of walking. Your not likely going to get the responses your after by asking the question you asked......tryone like this " can someone help me with tips on how to find my own Elk in wmu...."you'll get better responses...or just try it the lazy way and cross your fingers..

Lol thanks for the comment really added a lot to the thread. Since your being an smart ass anyway I’m pretty sure calling season is over now, so wouldn’t do much good.

blackonblackfx4 · #8 10-17-2020, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Positrac

It’s a tough spot to get permission. The elk will be where the least pressure is. That could be land where getting permission is impossible or along the river in hard to get to areas. They are there though. It’s amazing what a guy sees when he doesn’t have a tag.

That’s for sure, a local farmer gave me permission but after a whole day out there we didn’t see anything

buckman · #9 10-17-2020, 03:58 PM

Fact is that nobody I know gives away Elk hot spots to anyone, unless its another trusted hunting partner.

It takes time,perseverance,effort and a little know-how before you find a productive area.

A large zone may only hold a few pockets of Elk,especially on public land.

35 whelen · #10 10-17-2020, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by blackonblackfx4

That’s for sure, a local farmer gave me permission but after a whole day out there we didn’t see anything

A WHOLE DAY ,no use hunting there anymore

blackonblackfx4 · #11 10-17-2020, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 35 whelen

A WHOLE DAY ,no use hunting there anymore

Ha ha.

I think the weather has them off today

35 whelen · #12 10-17-2020, 04:36 PM

That's too bad you didn't see my ad I was looking for two guys to come and hunt with me at at my cabin but I found two guys.

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Sooner · #13 10-17-2020, 05:13 PM

My friend has a quarter of bush in 509. The elk are like ghosts, always on the move. Even when the season ends and the main pressure is over and it is just him on his property with a landowners tag, the elk never stay in one spot long.

Good luck, some bruisers in that zone.

obsessed1 · #14 10-17-2020, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by blackonblackfx4

Lol thanks for the comment really added a lot to the thread. Since your being an smart ass anyway I’m pretty sure calling season is over now, so wouldn’t do much good.

Um hum I'm a smart ass for sure. Your the guy asking other people to find you an Elk. Fyi you can still call Elk even now if you know how....which is what I asked. But you would rather someone tell you where to find your Elk. Like I said learn to hunt Elk and you won't need to ask. Good luck filling your tag

bezzola · #15 10-17-2020, 08:10 PM

Some elk will still be callin we have called bulls right into the middle of November I couldn’t believe it when he came screaming in

Dean2 · #16 10-18-2020, 03:25 PM

If you won't put in the work, hire a guide. It only costs money to avoid all the inconvenience of spotting, trail cameras, getting permission, burning boot leather.

Other alternative

Safeway
395 St Albert Trail, St Albert, AB T8N 5Z9 Get directions
Inglewood

Grocery Stores, Gas Stations

Open until 11:00 pmCall

Website

Ram94 · #17 10-18-2020, 03:33 PM

We really need a "Like" button

ceedub · #18 10-18-2020, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by blackonblackfx4

That’s for sure, a local farmer gave me permission but after a whole day out there we didn’t see anything

You went a whole day and didn’t see anything? Hmmmm.
Elk hunting isn’t easy, there really is no secret to success other than what’s been stated in other threads. Success is hard won. Good luck in your search.

Craig

7mmremmag · #19 10-18-2020, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bezzola

Some elk will still be callin we have called bulls right into the middle of November I couldn’t believe it when he came screaming in

I had bulls bugling all week. Killed my bull last night.
Between archery and rifle I had hunted 18 days for elk this year before I killed my bull. I have a cabin in the area and have hunted there for 8yrs and run 4-5 cameras from may to november.

35 Whelan is bang on. It takes a long time and a lot of hard work to kill elk consistently, thankfully I have filled my elk tag for the last three years in a row. I dont even tell family members where I hunt, theres enough pressure there as it is.

To the OP get out there spend as much time as possible, you may get lucky.
In my previous experience you will still be able to locate bulls by bugling now, but they wont necessarily come into the call. The elk are really starting to herd up. Seen a herd of 35-40 two nights ago.

7magtime · #20 10-19-2020, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean2

If you won't put in the work, hire a guide. It only costs money to avoid all the inconvenience of spotting, trail cameras, getting permission, burning boot leather.

Other alternative

Safeway
395 St Albert Trail, St Albert, AB T8N 5Z9 Get directions
Inglewood

Grocery Stores, Gas Stations

Open until 11:00 pmCall

Website

^^This^^!!
You won't have to hunt for more than a day, dress warm....

Take Obsessed1's advice instead of taking offence to it, he's given you some solid info to make you a better elk hunter......

Dean2 · #21 10-19-2020, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean2

If you won't put in the work, hire a guide. It only costs money to avoid all the inconvenience of spotting, trail cameras, getting permission, burning boot leather.

Other alternative

Safeway
395 St Albert Trail, St Albert, AB T8N 5Z9 Get directions
Inglewood

Grocery Stores, Gas Stations

Open until 11:00 pmCall

Website

This is going to be my stock reply to these kinds of threads going forward. You are all welcome to copy and paste is as appropriate. Maybe the OPs will get the message, though I doubt it.

obsessed1 · #22 10-19-2020, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 7magtime

^^This^^!!
You won't have to hunt for more than a day, dress warm....

Take Obsessed1's advice instead of taking offence to it, he's given you some solid info to make you a better elk hunter......

Lazy people will always take offence.. I put a thread up last year called Elk tactics in which I tried to give away most of the Elk hunting knowledge and skills I have developed and learned by scouting/ hunting/ observing Elk and others have graciously included their experience as well to help guys learn how to be successful. The only thing I/ they didn't add was the gps location of the bull..that's up to the hunter to find. Lazy people will always complain you didn't do enough and want a location. They should just open up their wallet then and compensate someone for doing all the hard work. I'd consider his post to be far more offensive than my response. I was actually trying to help him.

Big Grey Wolf · #23 10-19-2020, 11:29 AM

Sad, this beginner did not realize that Obsessed1 a Elk Master took the time to give him some excellent advice and he had to spout nonsense back to him for his trouble.

obsessed1 · #24 10-19-2020, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Grey Wolf

Sad, this beginner did not realize that Obsessed1 a Elk Master took the time to give him some excellent advice and he had to spout nonsense back to him for his trouble.

First off let's get things straight. I'm NOT an Elk master. I just live right in the middle of them and have spent the last 15 years learning everything I can about them and have had the blessing of seeing them/ learning from them by watching and observing 365. By no means am I a master though...the dang critters make a fool of me often. But I have learned some things and am willing to help others learn who haven't had the daily Elk access I have enjoyed, but I'm not going to give gps location unless he's willing to pay.
For the record there are probably way more qualified Elk hunters on here than me...those guys don't give gps locations either....

walking buffalo · #25 10-19-2020, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by blackonblackfx4

That’s for sure, a local farmer gave me permission but after a whole day out there we didn’t see anything

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Originally Posted by blackonblackfx4

Ha ha.

I think the weather has them off today

Posted at 3:51 in the afternoon?

HTH is that a whole day?

Isn't Safeway open till 11?

Etownpaul · #26 10-19-2020, 12:02 PM

I hunt white tails up in 509. I’ve seen a ton of elk sign, but never an elk itself. Tons of hunting pressure out there, everyone I know who lives up there hunts.

We found a massive 6x6 set of elk antlers while out shed hunting, so there must be some big boys out there.

7magtime · #27 10-19-2020, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by obsessed1

Lazy people will always take offence.. I put a thread up last year called Elk tactics in which I tried to give away most of the Elk hunting knowledge and skills I have developed and learned by scouting/ hunting/ observing Elk and others have graciously included their experience as well to help guys learn how to be successful. The only thing I/ they didn't add was the gps location of the bull..that's up to the hunter to find. Lazy people will always complain you didn't do enough and want a location. They should just open up their wallet then and compensate someone for doing all the hard work. I'd consider his post to be far more offensive than my response. I was actually trying to help him.

Yup, I remember your post. You shared some great information in that thread. It was much appreciated by the guys on here(myself included) who understand the work/time/money that goes into learning the animal they are hunting and the area it lives in. I think that is lost on the OP by the looks of his "one day" tough hunt....lol.

magoonpointboy · #28 10-19-2020, 12:09 PM

The OP is probably a beginner and will soon learn how selfish and secretive we all are, as hunters. Excluding a few who have gone out of their way to share some fantastic knowledge with the board.
But we don't have to be complete A-holes, either. A newbie would compare perhaps, to cooks who share recipes, travellers who share favourite destinations, hikers who share favourite routes...

Dean2 · #29 10-19-2020, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by magoonpointboy

The OP is probably a beginner and will soon learn how selfish and secretive we all are, as hunters. Excluding a few who have gone out of their way to share some fantastic knowledge with the board.
But we don't have to be complete A-holes, either. A newbie would compare perhaps, to cooks who share recipes, travellers who share favourite destinations, hikers who share favourite routes...

The OP has been on this board for 10 years so I don't really think he is a beginner. Even of he is, lots of us are willing to share recipes, we just aren't prepared to bake the cake and deliver it. The recipe was not enough, he wanted to know what spot on the cut line to stand to shoot an elk, and u call us selfish.

Positrac · #30 10-19-2020, 12:46 PM

I’ve seen many of these threads and I’ve started a few myself. I don’t think the question being asked was much different that what many others have asked in the past where people didn’t go on the offensive. Despite some good advice on elk hunting, the biggest take-away from this thread could possibly be the results you’ll receive when asking questions or seeking advice usually mirrors the tone you take when asking those questions. If someone takes offence to your question just brush it off and don’t go on the offensive yourself. Once that happens all is lost and even those members that were willing to help at the start will remain silent.