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Old 10-14-2020, 09:25 AM
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Is this for real or fake?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vLqdsNxI9Q

This is one of a couple different videos on the internet.
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Old 10-14-2020, 09:31 AM
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Info wars... as real as the merkin on Trudeau's face.
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Old 10-14-2020, 01:22 PM
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Google randy hillier Ontario mpp.he asks the same question in the Ontario legislature and gets no satisfactory answer.
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Old 10-14-2020, 04:51 PM
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Question Cover Up? Or a simple misunderstanding?

The Solicitation appears to be legit. There were some comments and links in this thread:
http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showthread.php?t=388709
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Old 10-14-2020, 06:03 PM
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For non mask compliance and anti chippers.
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Old 10-14-2020, 08:24 PM
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Well if this is regarding government run quarantine sites then yes it is likely true. The quarantine act does outline that if you refuse to comply with a quarantine order then the government has the power to force you to comply. It's one of those restrictions on rights like yelling fire in a crowded theater. Your rights extend only to the point that they do not impact/effect another person's rights. The greater good, crazy idea right?
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Old 10-14-2020, 08:34 PM
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https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/infowars-alex-jones/
They are good for a laugh...but that's about it.
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Old 10-14-2020, 11:23 PM
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Is this for real or fake?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vLqdsNxI9Q

This is one of a couple different videos on the internet.
This will back up that article. Government of Canada is putting out tenders to supply goods/services for Covid camps.

https://buyandsell.gc.ca/procurement...W-ZL-105-38463
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Old 10-14-2020, 11:47 PM
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Old 10-15-2020, 08:26 AM
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Here is Liberals plan “Greater fool article “

https://www.greaterfool.ca/2020/10/15/virus-porn-2/

The message is bizarre. But the ground this falls upon may be fertile. Let’s hope not.

The road map and aim was set out by the PMO and is as follows:
– Phase in secondary lock down restrictions on a rolling basis, starting with major metropolitan areas first and expanding outward. Expected by November 2020.
– Rush the acquisition of (or construction of) isolation facilities across every province and territory. Expected by December 2020.
– Daily new cases of COVID-19 will surge beyond capacity of testing, including increases in COVID related deaths following the same growth curves. Expected by end of November 2020.
– Complete and total secondary lock down (much stricter than the first and second rolling phase restrictions). Expected by end of December 2020 – early January 2021
– Reform and expansion of the unemployment program to be transitioned into the universal basic income program. Expected by Q1 2021.
– Projected COVID-19 mutation and/or co-infection with secondary virus (referred to as COVID-21) leading to a third wave with much higher mortality rate and higher rate of infection. Expected by February 2021.
– Daily new cases of COVID-21 hospitalizations and COVID-19 and COVID-21 related deaths will exceed medical care facilities capacity. Expected Q1 – Q2 2021.
– Enhanced lock down restrictions (referred to as Third Lock Down) will be implemented. Full travel restrictions will be imposed (including inter-province and inter-city). Expected Q2 2021.
– Transitioning of individuals into the universal basic income program. Expected mid Q2 2021.
– Projected supply chain break downs, inventory shortages, large economic instability. Expected late Q2 2021.
– Deployment of military personnel into major metropolitan areas as well as all major roadways to establish travel checkpoints. Restrict travel and movement. Provide logistical support to the area. Expected by Q3 2021.

As if that were not enough. This twaddle also states plans for a debt jubilee to stave off economic collapse but only if citizens renounce ownership of their properties and assets and agree to new rounds of vaccinations (seriously). The IMF would administer this under a World Debt Reset program.
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Old 10-15-2020, 08:31 AM
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Right from the Quebec Minister of Health

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMj1...annel=VivaFrei

yup they have gone full nazi
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Old 10-15-2020, 08:35 AM
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Right from the Quebec Minister of Health

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMj1...annel=VivaFrei

yup they have gone full nazi
Trudeau has become the 21st century Hitler.
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Old 10-15-2020, 08:36 AM
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Pushback is required immediately. Where are Conservatives?

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Old 10-15-2020, 08:37 AM
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Here is Liberals plan “Greater fool article “

https://www.greaterfool.ca/2020/10/15/virus-porn-2/

The message is bizarre. But the ground this falls upon may be fertile. Let’s hope not.

The road map and aim was set out by the PMO and is as follows:
– Phase in secondary lock down restrictions on a rolling basis, starting with major metropolitan areas first and expanding outward. Expected by November 2020.
– Rush the acquisition of (or construction of) isolation facilities across every province and territory. Expected by December 2020.
– Daily new cases of COVID-19 will surge beyond capacity of testing, including increases in COVID related deaths following the same growth curves. Expected by end of November 2020.
– Complete and total secondary lock down (much stricter than the first and second rolling phase restrictions). Expected by end of December 2020 – early January 2021
– Reform and expansion of the unemployment program to be transitioned into the universal basic income program. Expected by Q1 2021.
– Projected COVID-19 mutation and/or co-infection with secondary virus (referred to as COVID-21) leading to a third wave with much higher mortality rate and higher rate of infection. Expected by February 2021.
– Daily new cases of COVID-21 hospitalizations and COVID-19 and COVID-21 related deaths will exceed medical care facilities capacity. Expected Q1 – Q2 2021.
– Enhanced lock down restrictions (referred to as Third Lock Down) will be implemented. Full travel restrictions will be imposed (including inter-province and inter-city). Expected Q2 2021.
– Transitioning of individuals into the universal basic income program. Expected mid Q2 2021.
– Projected supply chain break downs, inventory shortages, large economic instability. Expected late Q2 2021.
– Deployment of military personnel into major metropolitan areas as well as all major roadways to establish travel checkpoints. Restrict travel and movement. Provide logistical support to the area. Expected by Q3 2021.

As if that were not enough. This twaddle also states plans for a debt jubilee to stave off economic collapse but only if citizens renounce ownership of their properties and assets and agree to new rounds of vaccinations (seriously). The IMF would administer this under a World Debt Reset program.
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Says the supposedly-leaked Liberal information: “The ones who refused to participate would be deemed a public safety risk and would be relocated into isolation facilities. Once in those facilities they would be given two options, participate in the debt forgiveness program and be released, or stay indefinitely in the isolation facility under the classification of a serious public health risk and have all their assets seized.”

There’s more. You get the drift. This speaks to the world we inhabit, where right-wing QAnon belief (celebrities and Democrats traffic in human children which are eaten for life-extending chemicals) is tolerated by the American president. It’s the worst of social media, taking advantage of the higher emotions and lower standards brought on by a global pandemic.
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Old 10-15-2020, 08:42 AM
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Here is Liberals plan “Greater fool article “

https://www.greaterfool.ca/2020/10/15/virus-porn-2/

The message is bizarre. But the ground this falls upon may be fertile. Let’s hope not.

The road map and aim was set out by the PMO and is as follows:
– Phase in secondary lock down restrictions on a rolling basis, starting with major metropolitan areas first and expanding outward. Expected by November 2020.
– Rush the acquisition of (or construction of) isolation facilities across every province and territory. Expected by December 2020.
– Daily new cases of COVID-19 will surge beyond capacity of testing, including increases in COVID related deaths following the same growth curves. Expected by end of November 2020.
– Complete and total secondary lock down (much stricter than the first and second rolling phase restrictions). Expected by end of December 2020 – early January 2021
– Reform and expansion of the unemployment program to be transitioned into the universal basic income program. Expected by Q1 2021.
– Projected COVID-19 mutation and/or co-infection with secondary virus (referred to as COVID-21) leading to a third wave with much higher mortality rate and higher rate of infection. Expected by February 2021.
– Daily new cases of COVID-21 hospitalizations and COVID-19 and COVID-21 related deaths will exceed medical care facilities capacity. Expected Q1 – Q2 2021.
– Enhanced lock down restrictions (referred to as Third Lock Down) will be implemented. Full travel restrictions will be imposed (including inter-province and inter-city). Expected Q2 2021.
– Transitioning of individuals into the universal basic income program. Expected mid Q2 2021.
– Projected supply chain break downs, inventory shortages, large economic instability. Expected late Q2 2021.
– Deployment of military personnel into major metropolitan areas as well as all major roadways to establish travel checkpoints. Restrict travel and movement. Provide logistical support to the area. Expected by Q3 2021.

As if that were not enough. This twaddle also states plans for a debt jubilee to stave off economic collapse but only if citizens renounce ownership of their properties and assets and agree to new rounds of vaccinations (seriously). The IMF would administer this under a World Debt Reset program.
You seriously don’t believe any of that, do you?
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Old 10-15-2020, 08:58 AM
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You seriously don’t believe any of that, do you?
I take it with grain of salt. Better not be happening. However I don’t trust Liberals, or Trudeau. That trust is gone. When Trust is gone, you have nothing.
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Old 10-15-2020, 10:59 AM
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Oh common guys, this is laughable! I really hope that you do understand that this was a sarcastic article. Garth was making fun of the conspiracy theories and basically telling his readers that this is a ridiculous fake news.
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Old 10-15-2020, 11:10 AM
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Oh common guys, this is laughable! I really hope that you do understand that this was a sarcastic article. Garth was making fun of the conspiracy theories and basically telling his readers that this is a ridiculous fake news.
Imtada seems to have taken the article as serious since he's posted it twice in this forum. I only pointed out other areas of the article where Garth attributes this "leak" as nonsense.
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Old 10-15-2020, 11:25 AM
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I take it with grain of salt. Better not be happening. However I don’t trust Liberals, or Trudeau. That trust is gone. When Trust is gone, you have nothing.
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Old 10-15-2020, 12:14 PM
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Oh common guys, this is laughable! I really hope that you do understand that this was a sarcastic article. Garth was making fun of the conspiracy theories and basically telling his readers that this is a ridiculous fake news.
So many people were upset when they had to use facilities at CFB Trenton back in March for the people that returned from China because they weren’t very well equipped. Now they’re doing something about it and we’ve got people freaking out about that.

Glad I’m not in governement.
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Old 10-15-2020, 12:36 PM
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So many people were upset when they had to use facilities at CFB Trenton back in March for the people that returned from China because they weren’t very well equipped. Now they’re doing something about it and we’ve got people freaking out about that.

Glad I’m not in governement.
Buddy!!! They are talking about taking people out of their homes and placing them into the camps! That’s a bit different, don’t you think? Picture this: God forbids, your child is sick with Covid and you are getting a knock in your door... they are here to pick him/her up.... And that is to protect others...
I don’t know about you, I’m from the former Soviet Union and these all sounds way too familiar....
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Old 10-15-2020, 12:52 PM
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Buddy!!! They are talking about taking people out of their homes and placing them into the camps! That’s a bit different, don’t you think? Picture this: God forbids, your child is sick with Covid and you are getting a knock in your door... they are here to pick him/her up.... And that is to protect others...
I don’t know about you, I’m from the former Soviet Union and these all sounds way too familiar....
Wait I'm confused, you said this is fake news and I agreed with you now you're talking about people being pulled from their homes? You lost me.

Yes the facilities are real, they are being built in case additional quarantine is required so they aren't scrambling like they did with people coming home from China and the cruise ships in March. That really did happen.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...over-1.5508351

ALL the rest of it is garbage.
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Old 10-15-2020, 01:07 PM
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Somebody out there is writing up all this stuff.

I think that’s absolutely fascinating.


People with the actual guts to attribute such stuff would make life so boring.

Says the anonymous poster to this forum. :-)
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Wait I'm confused, you said this is fake news and I agreed with you now you're talking about people being pulled from their homes? You lost me.

Yes the facilities are real, they are being built in case additional quarantine is required so they aren't scrambling like they did with people coming home from China and the cruise ships in March. That really did happen.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...over-1.5508351

ALL the rest of it is garbage.
I totally agree with your last statement. I think something was lost in translation here, lol! The article was about taking pips from their homes and you were talking about an emergency quarantine measures that happened in March and April. Two different scenarios. Especially now when we know much more about the actual virus than we did back in March.
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Old 10-15-2020, 02:01 PM
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Somebody out there is writing up all this stuff.

I think that’s absolutely fascinating.


People with the actual guts to attribute such stuff would make life so boring.

Says the anonymous poster to this forum. :-)
Whom ever that someone leaking the inf might be true. Here we have Randy Hillier (MLA) in Ontario parliament, asking about theses camps. The person answering the question ducts the answer, never answers it after two attempts. This was in Ontario Parliament.
https://youtu.be/F7GaptTqiNw
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Old 10-15-2020, 08:05 PM
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Prior to this pandemic there was virtually no proper planning and preparation.*

So I would hope that now some significant contingency planning and many scenarios are finally being prepared both on paper and on the ground.

Imagine the casualties had this been a far deadlier virus. Imagine the risks the world now faces as this mutating virus enters millions upon millions of human bodies. Its mutating so who knows what might come out of those mutations. Will vaccines keep up with future mutations?


* These are just some of the “water under the bridge” issues and failures in my mind:
- Little planning for the front lines (airlines, airports and borders)
- Few PPEs on the front lines (just in the rear lines ie hospitals)
- No national federally mandated PPE buffer system to ensure lowest cost readiness
- No decent economic / fiscal planning for shut downs, regional quarantines, etc. (Eg immediate implementation of a universal basic income to prevent an economic collapse)
- No domestic production of PPEs
- No advance optioning of aircraft for quick repatriation
- No advance optioning of entry point hotel rooms for automatic quarantines
- No advance optioning of future vaccines
- Funnelling of international travellers through fewer unprepared (indefensible) airports forcing returning Canadians to travel even further domestically
- No national reserves or buffer of critical pharmaceuticals and other necessities
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You seriously don’t believe any of that, do you?
I feel like we got Canada's Qanon going on. I think we need just need to add 5G and George Soros.

I like a good conspiracy, but I also like quantifiable and believable proof.
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Old 10-15-2020, 09:41 PM
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Back in March.

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No end in sight for COVID-19 crisis, Trudeau says as Ontario records first death | National Post



Trudeau said the cabinet was looking at the Emergencies Act, which gives the government sweeping powers if enacted. Powers include the ability to restrict travel to parts of the country, seize private property, put people to work and to build emergency shelters or hospitals.

As Canadians know, the Emergencies Act is a measure of last resort
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Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland said the move was not being considered lightly.

“As Canadians know, the Emergencies Act is a measure of last resort which grants the federal government extraordinary powers. It could never be invoked without consultation with the provinces.”

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada...ce-legislation
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I feel like we got Canada's Qanon going on. I think we need just need to add 5G and George Soros.

I like a good conspiracy, but I also like quantifiable and believable proof.
I feel like it is more than that. People in general don't seem to understand anymore that although they have freedoms and rights that they aren't granted with a blank cheque to do whatever they want. Rights come with the responsibility of considering other people's rights and failure to do so lands you in jail or paying a fine.
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Old 10-16-2020, 09:07 AM
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I feel like it is more than that. People in general don't seem to understand anymore that although they have freedoms and rights that they aren't granted with a blank cheque to do whatever they want. Rights come with the responsibility of considering other people's rights and failure to do so lands you in jail or paying a fine.
But why is it that people are fined for violating the covid protocols while taking their children to a park, while thousands, including the PM violate the covid protocol as they protest, and are not held accountable?
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