What arrow to use?

Canuck44 · #1 03-25-2009, 08:51 PM

I am shooting a bowtech allegiance with a 70 lb draw weight and a 29" arrow. I am currently using an arrow that weighs 420 grains including the broadhead, nock and fletching. I want to try lighter arrows that are right around 350-360 grains with a 100 grain broadhead. For my combo what arrows are options?

I have been looking and most of the arrows for aggressive bows with a 29" arrow come in to heavy. I am planning on going to Jimbows and getting him to set me up just wondering what arrows fit the bill for what I want. Any suggestions?

Also, will I lose stability going to a 75 grain broadhead?

gunslinger · #2 03-26-2009, 05:36 AM

u could have a look at the easton axis 340 9.5gpi and maybe shoot a 125 grain broadhead which will help ya quite a bit with penetration.

u dont wanna get to light shoot that much poundage.

russ · #3 03-26-2009, 09:04 AM

Not a lot of choices for you. My own set-up is a 29" 3-49 ACC with an 85 gr Montec & 4" helical feathers. I meant to weigh it, I think it's around 400 grains. Why do you want to lighten up? The faster you go, the harder it will be to tune even with mechanicals.

Canuck44 · #4 03-26-2009, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gunslinger

u could have a look at the easton axis 340 9.5gpi and maybe shoot a 125 grain broadhead which will help ya quite a bit with penetration.

u dont wanna get to light shoot that much poundage.

to heavy i want to try a lighter arrow

munyee4321 · #5 03-26-2009, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Canuck44

to heavy i want to try a lighter arrow

carbone express maximas 350s... 8.9gpi

Canuck44 · #6 03-26-2009, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by russ

Not a lot of choices for you. My own set-up is a 29" 3-49 ACC with an 85 gr Montec & 4" helical feathers. I meant to weigh it, I think it's around 400 grains. Why do you want to lighten up? The faster you go, the harder it will be to tune even with mechanicals.

I am ok with the 420 grain setup I am shooting now, just want to try something lighter, faster and flatter shooting and then see for myself how it shoots. Want to try them out over the summer so I have a chance to develop my own opinion on which is better.

rem338win · #7 03-26-2009, 08:32 PM

The Maximas are supposed to be a great arrow, and one of the lightest right now. The only lighter one I know of that should fit your bill would be the Easton Lightspeed, I think. I wouldn't go lighter than an 85gr head, and you should probably look at a high profile, short fletch like the Blazers or Arizona's to try and keep the weight forward. Like everyone else here so far, I'll say that once you break 300fps, any great rig can get finicky.
My pins were getting a little close together at 290fps, and I think keeping it around 270-280fps with 400-450grs of weight is a great setup. You should be in there with an Allegiance and 29" draw.
Skip the wraps, Luminoks and all that too, if your trying to lose weight.

russ · #8 03-27-2009, 05:58 AM

The lightest set up I've ever used was some Carbon Tech 3D Cheetahs (hunter's are the same, different grade). Those will get you down into that weight area that you're looking for. There's also a few others that are lighter. Here's what Archers Advantage gave me for a 70 lb bow & a hard cam and my 85gr point. I've also tried to attach a screen shot but 550x733 is too big.

Mfg Shaft Type Size Spine GPI Weight FPS
Victory Arrows X-Ringer HV 350 0.350 6.20 287 340
Victory Arrows V-Force HV 350 0.350 6.40 292 338
Blackhawk Vapor 23 Speed 4000S 0.335 6.75 309 330
Blackhawk Vapor Jets 4000 0.350 6.90 314 328
Carbon Impact Deer Hunter 65/75 0.350 7.40 325 323
Carbon Express 3D Select 300/70 0.350 8.00 339 317
Carbon Express Trophy Hunter 350 0.350 8.10 341 317
Carbon Express CXL SS 350 0.338 8.10 342 316
Carbon Express Sidewinder 300/70 0.350 8.00 344 316
Arrow Dynamics 395 Magnum Orange 0.325 8.10 346 315
Arrow Dynamics Nitro Stinger Orange 0.325 8.10 346 315
Carbon Express CX Maxima 350 0.344 8.20 345 315
Carbon Express Fat Shaft XLT 6500 0.350 8.30 347 315
Patriot All 55-70 0.345 8.09 347 315
Beman 9.3 340 0.340 8.30 349 314
Carbon Express CXL2 Select 350 0.332 8.30 348 314
Carbon Express Maxima 350 0.345 8.20 349 314
Carbon Express Maxima 3D Select 350 0.345 8.20 349 314
Easton Hyper Speed 2-71 0.320 8.04 348 314
Carbon Impact Fat Shaft XLT 6500 0.350 8.30 351 313
Cartel (Doo Sung) Expert 520 0.332 8.49 352 313
Easton LightSpeed - LightSpeed 3D 340 0.340 8.20 350 313
Arrow Dynamics 395 Magnum Green 0.325 8.40 354 312
Arrow Dynamics Nitro Stinger Green 0.325 8.40 354 312
Carbon Tech Cheetah 3D 300 0.330 7.90 353 312
Carbon Tech Cheetah Hunter 55/80 0.330 7.90 353 312
Easton FatBoy 340 0.340 8.30 353 312
Victory Arrows X-Ringer 350 0.350 8.50 352 312
Blackhawk Vapor Pro Series 4000 0.350 8.40 356 311
Easton Aluminum 2511 0.348 8.06 361 309
Victory Arrows V-Force 350 0.350 8.80 361 309
Carbon Express CX 400 0.319 8.90 365 308
Carbon Express Fat Shaft XLT 7500 0.330 8.90 364 308
Carbon Impact Fat Shaft 7500 0.335 8.80 365 308
Silstar Mach I Act M1340 0.340 8.90 364 308
Silstar Mach II Act M2340 0.340 8.90 364 308
Silstar Mach III Act M3340 0.340 8.90 364 308
Arrow Dynamics Nitro Stinger Gold 0.325 8.90 369 307
Beman ICS Field 340 0.340 8.80 367 307
Beman ICS Hawk 340 0.340 8.80 367 307
Carbon Express Maxima Hunter 350 0.337 8.90 369 307
Carbon Impact Fat Shaft XLT 7500 0.330 8.90 368 307
Easton Excel 340 0.340 8.80 367 307
Carbon Express Terminator Lite Select 6075 0.336 9.10 370 306
Carbon Express Rebel Lite 6075 0.336 9.10 374 305
Carbon Impact Super Impact 7000 0.320 9.10 373 305
PSE Stealth Hunter, STL Hunter 400 0.337 9.20 376 304
Beman ICS Bowhunter 340 0.345 9.30 381 302
Beman ICS Hunter Elite 340 0.345 9.30 381 302
Beman ICS Hunter/Venture 340 0.340 9.30 381 302
Easton Axis 340 0.340 9.50 383 302
Easton PowerFlight 340 0.340 9.30 381 302
Easton ST Axis Black 340 0.340 9.50 383 302

Canuck44 · #9 03-27-2009, 08:37 PM

thanks

wctbowtech · #10 03-29-2009, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Canuck44

I am shooting a bowtech allegiance with a 70 lb draw weight and a 29" arrow. I am currently using an arrow that weighs 420 grains including the broadhead, nock and fletching. I want to try lighter arrows that are right around 350-360 grains with a 100 grain broadhead. For my combo what arrows are options?

I have been looking and most of the arrows for aggressive bows with a 29" arrow come in to heavy. I am planning on going to Jimbows and getting him to set me up just wondering what arrows fit the bill for what I want. Any suggestions?

Also, will I lose stability going to a 75 grain broadhead?

Goldtip UL 400 or Victory HV350's

Either of these two types of arrows will get you down to the light weight you want. Also you could go with High Country 6.2 gpi arrows. Check out there repective websites for more info.

vandy · #11 04-09-2009, 12:52 AM

Archery is my hobby & i want to know which are the best quality arrows available in the market?

Albertabowhunter · #12 04-09-2009, 09:22 PM

how much can you afford? Best arrows on the market? if your using them for hunting, I wouldnt worry to much about getting the best, but if you really want, try Easton ACC's, FMJ, or Victory. If your shooting 3D, well, look at Easton ACE's, Victory, probably a few more out there that I can trember at this time. But the top of the top I wouldhave to say is the ACE's for 3D or target anyway.

BrownBear416 · #13 04-10-2009, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by rem338win

The Maximas are supposed to be a great arrow, and one of the lightest right now. The only lighter one I know of that should fit your bill would be the Easton Lightspeed, I think. I wouldn't go lighter than an 85gr head, and you should probably look at a high profile, short fletch like the Blazers or Arizona's to try and keep the weight forward. Like everyone else here so far, I'll say that once you break 300fps, any great rig can get finicky.
My pins were getting a little close together at 290fps, and I think keeping it around 270-280fps with 400-450grs of weight is a great setup. You should be in there with an Allegiance and 29" draw.
Skip the wraps, Luminoks and all that too, if your trying to lose weight.

Ya I agree with you.My bow shoots 269 fps with a 125gr BH/429gr Arrow.Besides my moose this year i have never had an arrow stop inside an animal and my moose had the whole arrow in the chest cavity.Shoots great and almost o tuning issues.

I shoot Carbon X arrows and love them.

jaybull · #14 04-11-2009, 12:14 PM

If you plan to use for hunting i wouldn't go to far below 400g for hunting setup. You'll have a arrow that will shoot fast and flat but It will lack in energy to get through bone and muscle. My arrows weight 407.5g with everything. And at 320 fps if i calculated right is around 89 ft/lbs. More than enough for bone and muscle of moose and elk. Find an online energy calculater and enter your data. You'll be surprised at how total weight will affects your K energy. And that, after shot placement is very important to a bow hunter. good luck. jay

jaybull · #15 04-11-2009, 12:19 PM

[QUOTE=Canuck44;292307]I am shooting a bowtech allegiance with a 70 lb draw weight and a 29" arrow. I am currently using an arrow that weighs 420 grains including the broadhead, nock and fletching. I want to try lighter arrows that are right around 350-360 grains with a 100 grain broadhead. For my combo what arrows are options?

350 + 100= 450 not lighter

even with 75g its still 425g not lighter. Just wondering if you ment heaver?