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Old 12-15-2017, 12:38 PM
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Default Kenney’s Byelection landslide.

Jason Kenney wins the Calgary Lougheed Byelection in a landslide reported 71 percent of the vote.
It looks like the UCP leadership is official.
Now Notley will really know what it’s like to be in politics.

http://edmontonjournal.com/news/poli...lgary-lougheed
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Old 12-15-2017, 12:49 PM
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great to hear of the landslide hope this is a wake up for the power in charge
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Old 12-15-2017, 12:51 PM
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I just hope for the same results during the provincial election.
SAY GOOD BUY TO NOTLEY!!
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Old 12-15-2017, 01:22 PM
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Nice!

Unofficial Results:

Kenney (UCP): 71.5%
Phillip van der Merwe (NDP): 16.5%
David Khan (Liberal): 9.3%
Other: 2.7%
Alberta Party: No Candidate.
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Old 12-15-2017, 01:23 PM
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And a poll just released today says Trudeau's popularity is at an all time low.
Maybe there's light at the end of the tunnel.
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Old 12-15-2017, 01:28 PM
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And a poll just released today says Trudeau's popularity is at an all time low.
Maybe there's light at the end of the tunnel.
Let's just hope it isn't an orange freight train. The tunnel is still rather long at this point.

Kenney and the UCP are the ones that will be judged as worthy or not. So they better have their poop in a group. Now it's time to start some policy direction.
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Old 12-15-2017, 01:32 PM
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Cool On the other hand -

Three sobering facts:

- This by-election was held in a UCP "safe" riding. Kenny's win was a given.
- Almost 70% of the eligible voters couldn't be bothered to participate !
- Using this one by-election to predict/assume future results, is foolhardy.

In the end, I don't think this by-election means much of anything at all.
The UCP (and Alberta) are still in big trouble!
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Old 12-15-2017, 01:45 PM
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Kenny was destined to win the safe riding. Now he is in a position where he can demonstrate whether he has what it takes or not....
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Three sobering facts:

- This by-election was held in a UCP "safe" riding. Kenny's win was a given.
I'd hardly say a win by less than 3% in the last general election is a "safe" riding.
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Old 12-15-2017, 02:03 PM
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Kenney was buried in a landslide?

The future is bright.
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Old 12-15-2017, 02:04 PM
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Also, the NDP lost huge support in this riding compared to 2015.

Everyone knew Kenney was going to win, which is why I presume there was a low turnout.
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Old 12-15-2017, 02:07 PM
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Three sobering facts:

- This by-election was held in a UCP "safe" riding. Kenny's win was a given.
- Almost 70% of the eligible voters couldn't be bothered to participate !
- Using this one by-election to predict/assume future results, is foolhardy.

In the end, I don't think this by-election means much of anything at all.
The UCP (and Alberta) are still in big trouble!
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I'm afraid your right. GW. Kenny didn't win, Notley lost.
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Old 12-15-2017, 02:48 PM
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I'm afraid your right. GW. Kenny didn't win, Notley lost.
Exactly how Notley got in! NDP didn’t win PC lost. That is about to change..
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Old 12-15-2017, 03:40 PM
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I'm afraid your right. GW. Kenny didn't win, Notley lost.

In this case I hate being right, but I'm pretty sure I am.

Anyone who thinks a UCP win in the next election will be a Cakewalk, is dreaming in technicolor.
Especially with Kenney at the helm
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Old 12-15-2017, 03:55 PM
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Just another career politician like so many before him.
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Old 12-15-2017, 04:20 PM
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A 70% win with a voter turnout of about 30-35% of eligible voters can hardly be considered a "landslide" as some are choosing to call it. That 70% +- of eligible voters who did not cast a vote should be of considerable interest to the UCP. Presumptions that they "couldn't be bothered" or any other "presumptions" as to cause for this lack of turnout may be a way off base. Perhaps the Stats-Heads will do some polling to gain some rationale for not voting rather than simply guesses/presumptions. Then again, we may never know until the next election.
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I'm afraid your right. GW. Kenny didn't win, Notley lost.
Now they both know what it feels like.
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Old 12-15-2017, 09:14 PM
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Three sobering facts:

- This by-election was held in a UCP "safe" riding. Kenny's win was a given.
- Almost 70% of the eligible voters couldn't be bothered to participate !
- Using this one by-election to predict/assume future results, is foolhardy.

In the end, I don't think this by-election means much of anything at all.
The UCP (and Alberta) are still in big trouble!
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Kenny clearly dominated, to ignore this would be foolhardy.


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I'm afraid your right. GW. Kenny didn't win, Notley lost.
Yes Kenny did win, by an overwhelming amount.

You two are hilarious
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Old 12-15-2017, 09:25 PM
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Also, the NDP lost huge support in this riding compared to 2015.

Everyone knew Kenney was going to win, which is why I presume there was a low turnout.
Yep, and for how much hate NDP supporters have for Kenney, everyone of them voted.
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Old 12-16-2017, 06:54 AM
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Kenny clearly dominated, to ignore this would be foolhardy.




Yes Kenny did win, by an overwhelming amount.

You two are hilarious
This^^^^
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Old 12-16-2017, 09:44 AM
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A 70% win with a voter turnout of about 30-35% of eligible voters can hardly be considered a "landslide" as some are choosing to call it. That 70% +- of eligible voters who did not cast a vote should be of considerable interest to the UCP. Presumptions that they "couldn't be bothered" or any other "presumptions" as to cause for this lack of turnout may be a way off base. Perhaps the Stats-Heads will do some polling to gain some rationale for not voting rather than simply guesses/presumptions. Then again, we may never know until the next election.
Your right we will not know the final outcome until the election.
However it is quite counter productive to include numbers that did not vote into an election result that has already taken place.
If people do not vote they are simply not included of their own device and will have no bearing on the outcome of the byelection. So by them not including themselves this result was a landslide.
Also it could have very well been mostly conservatives that did not vote as opposed to what you are suggesting because they knew they had it in the bag.
That would have resulted in an even larger landslide but because they did not vote they have no say and were not included as numbers in the byelection.
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Old 12-16-2017, 10:08 AM
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Now that he is in the house, I don't think that this will be easy by and stretch of the imagination. As I see it he has a couple of issues to address right away. Is the party truly united? That will be job one, and if it is not what can he do about it?
Is there an issue that will help unite his party like the LGR did? There are lots that will cause him problems and he needs a plan to avoid them, no more burning lakes of fire for the gays or a white man's burden kind of talk by members or candidates.

If you are assuming, getting the UCP to be elected as the government will be easy you are in for a nasty surprise. IMO it will take a lot of work.
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Old 12-16-2017, 10:11 AM
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Now that he is in the house, I don't think that this will be easy by and stretch of the imagination. As I see it he has a couple of issues to address right away. Is the party truly united? That will be job one, and if it is not what can he do about it?
Is there an issue that will help unite his party like the LGR did? There are lots that will cause him problems and he needs a plan to avoid them, no more burning lakes of fire for the gays or a white man's burden kind of talk by members or candidates.

If you are assuming, getting the UCP to be elected as the government will be easy you are in for a nasty surprise. IMO it will take a lot of work.
Thankfully the current Gov't. is helping out with that work load.
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Old 12-16-2017, 10:22 AM
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Now that he is in the house, I don't think that this will be easy by and stretch of the imagination. As I see it he has a couple of issues to address right away. Is the party truly united? That will be job one, and if it is not what can he do about it?
Is there an issue that will help unite his party like the LGR did? There are lots that will cause him problems and he needs a plan to avoid them, no more burning lakes of fire for the gays or a white man's burden kind of talk by members or candidates.

If you are assuming, getting the UCP to be elected as the government will be easy you are in for a nasty surprise. IMO it will take a lot of work.
There is always work to do but it is a matter if anyone wants to do it.
I think Kenney has always been a worker.
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Old 12-16-2017, 10:35 AM
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My riding. I voted for Jason, with some reservations. Wild Rose previously had my support. Now it seems it's all or nothing. I have no doubt there are still lots of the old boy conservatives hanging in the wings and salivating at the chance to get back in the trough! Jason needs to be very careful what he says and does over the next 18 to 24 months. Needs to clear out all the deadwood and prove that there are still ethical, non-entitled politicians in the world. I'll be watching what plumb position Mr. Rodney gets if / when the UCP govern the province. That one thing alone will speak volumes.
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Kenney was buried in a landslide?

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Old 12-16-2017, 01:26 PM
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Your right we will not know the final outcome until the election.
However it is quite counter productive to include numbers that did not vote into an election result that has already taken place.
If people do not vote they are simply not included of their own device and will have no bearing on the outcome of the byelection. So by them not including themselves this result was a landslide.
Also it could have very well been mostly conservatives that did not vote as opposed to what you are suggesting because they knew they had it in the bag.
That would have resulted in an even larger landslide but because they did not vote they have no say and were not included as numbers in the byelection.
I agree, I can't understand why people focus on the amount of people who did not vote in an election that is over, it means nothing to the election.

The only thing relevant at all with regard to people who did not vote especially if the number is high, is that there are some very large numbers of voters who nobody knows which way they are going to vote if and when they decide to.

Saying Kenney and the UCP have a lot of work to do before the next election is valid but their task is not going to be any more difficult than for the NDP or any other party. For Kenney and the UCP to get where they are already confirms that hard work has already been going on, and is only going to increase now that Kenney is "officially" in the saddle.

I hope Kenney will focus more on what the UCP are going to do for Alberta once they are in power rather than just "hammer" the NDP, even though it would be so easy to do. Can you imagine the amount of work that Notleys script writers have been doing the last few months trying to come up with some valid reasons/answers for their disastrous performance.
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Old 12-16-2017, 01:41 PM
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I'd hardly say a win by less than 3% in the last general election is a "safe" riding.
Technically the conservatives increased their percentage vote.



Conservative vote took 70% instead of 60%

What this election has shown is that enough Albertans like the socialist handouts and see the NDP as the official opposition.
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Old 12-16-2017, 04:33 PM
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Three sobering facts:

- This by-election was held in a UCP "safe" riding. Kenny's win was a given.
- Almost 70% of the eligible voters couldn't be bothered to participate !
- Using this one by-election to predict/assume future results, is foolhardy.

In the end, I don't think this by-election means much of anything at all.
The UCP (and Alberta) are still in big trouble!
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I don't think NDP figured they would do well. But any election where you win 70 percent of the vote is called getting smoked.

Its not just that, and I know it was federal riding. But Rona Ambrose's old stomping grounds went to that kid who won with 78 percent of the vote, which is unfathomable in an area anywhere close to an urban area. That's the kinda azz kicking you see in a place like rural Alberta...

Messages are being sent load and clear to both Liberals and Dippers, and its a beautiful thing.
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Thankfully the current Gov't. is helping out with that work load.
I see Notley being voted out, for the same reason that she was elected, just to get rid of the current government.
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