NAFA Auction

[HunterDave]

Dang, I thought that it was today!

[HunterDave]

Looks like prices have bounced back from last year!

[KBF]

Originally Posted by HunterDave

Looks like prices have bounced back from last year!

Yes had a damaged one go for 12$ more than another not damaged.

[tankdog]

Prices from $14 to $ 146 USD. Avg $ 93.60 USD . Not bad for last years coys

[H380]

Sale was good for me , I'm within a dollar on ave from first sale last year . $120.40 USD.

[PCP_ECOM]

Originally Posted by H380

Sale was good for me , I'm within a dollar on ave from first sale last year . $120.40 USD.

nice Cam congrats

[HunterDave]

Originally Posted by H380

Sale was good for me , I'm within a dollar on ave from first sale last year . $120.40 USD.

Wow! That's a great average. Congrats!

[Olthreelegs]

Originally Posted by H380

Sale was good for me , I'm within a dollar on ave from first sale last year . $120.40 USD.

good here as well. didnt make top lot but did get in second to top. 168$usd

[Big Grey Wolf]

Guys some encouraging prices for coyote and marten at latest auction. A $140 average for heavy coyote, top lot of $600 Ca. Also marten XXL heavy at $140 and top lot of $195 is starting to look respectable.

[HunterDave]

I'm thinking that the May auction should be even better.

[waterninja]

Thats great news. I personally did not have the time to get out this year but I'm really happy for those of you who had a good year. I hope price's stay high or even higher for the next auction. I have mentioned a few times recently that I have noticed a lot more people wearing fur on tv.

[H380]

Originally Posted by HunterDave

I'm thinking that the May auction should be even better.

I hope so too tho the first auction is traditionally hard to top .

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[HunterDave]

Originally Posted by H380

I hope so too tho the first auction is traditionally hard to top .

My understanding is that this year is different. The big auction,with the most buyers, is the second one. I was debating putting in my November/December coyotes in the second auction. More variety of wild fur as well (ie. Lynx, otter, etc). I'm thinking that prices will be as high or higher. I have none in but I'm really interested in the muskrat prices. I may have to push harder trapping them this Spring.

[H380]

Originally Posted by HunterDave

My understanding is that this year is different. The big auction,with the most buyers, is the second one. I was debating putting in my November/December coyotes in the second auction. More variety of wild fur as well (ie. Lynx, otter, etc). I'm thinking that prices will be as high or higher. I have none in but I'm really interested in the muskrat prices. I may have to push harder trapping them this Spring.

Like I said , maybe .. My ave for this last sale was within a dollar of my last years first sale . If it holds or gets higher for second I'll be ecstatic., cause last years second sale for me was a fair bit lower .. even if I dropped those mystery grade coyotes we all had in there . How much higher can coyotes go ?

[H380]

Yup , I watched our last skinner do 5 yotes from hanging first one to dropping last one in 25 minutes on the skinning part . Fleshing didn't take much longer, then again he did over 300 that year.

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[shakeyleg02]

Originally Posted by H380

Yup , I watched our last skinner do 5 yotes from hanging first one to dropping last one in 25 minutes on the skinning part . Fleshing didn't take much longer, then again he did over 300 that year.

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I cant do um that fast but im not in a race either ..if they only had back legs it would be much faster sometimes them big ol males do not want to get neked

[Olthreelegs]

Originally Posted by H380

Yup , I watched our last skinner do 5 yotes from hanging first one to dropping last one in 25 minutes on the skinning part . Fleshing didn't take much longer, then again he did over 300 that year.

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big difference between five minutes and 3.5. also fleshing a coyote in three minutes with a decent end product isnt realistic. No doubt some guys are fast but its the same as the guys in competition with skinning. yes the can do a coyote in 3 minutes or less on a fresh young coyote but they are not doing that on all coyotes.
you show me a guy that can consistently skin a coyote in 3.5 minutes and flesh in three minutes one after the other and ill show you the one legged non binary gender blender sasquatch i have living in my back yard

[Marty S]

Originally Posted by Olthreelegs

...also fleshing a coyote in three minutes with a decent end product isnt realistic...

Have you ever considered the possibility that you don't have a clue on this topic? As in what can be done? I will agree with you tho in part, you probably could never flesh a coyote properly in 3 minutes, however, I can! (And I am very fussy.)

Perhaps you would consider that there are superior methods? Funny thing, I had a guy helping me put up fur a number of years ago, a greenhorn, and he figured the speed fleshing technique out. Mind you he was using superior equipment to what the average trapper uses, so he did have an advantage.I believe another guy on this forum, the one and only "Amazing Coy" uses similar technique.

I missed that one on the first go round. Sorry!

(... me soooooooo soooooorrrrryyy!)

And yes... then there was Dennis the Mennonite at Beasley's. Not sure if he was a Baer or a Kropf or a Miller, I think a Miller. He worked a whole winter alone because he wanted the $$$$$$$$$, wow, slick! I think he was the best skinner that I ever seen and would have left me in the dust. I'd never seen a man skin coyotes like him, before or after. Back in those years, Beasley bought thousands of coyotes. Have you ever seen a pile of 2000 coyotes before? I have and they sure weren't mine... I bet Dennis was much faster than Albert, but because he worked alone that winter, nobody bothered timing him or recorded his day's best.

I will admit tho, in my old age and severely damaged condition, I can't do things as fast as I used to. My hands/wrists are kinda wrecked. Belly sticks out... hair falling out, got all ugly in my old age...

[Olthreelegs]

I will admit tho, in my old age and severely damaged condition, I can't do things as fast as I used to. My hands/wrists are kinda wrecked. Belly sticks out... hair falling out, got all ugly in my old age...

well at least we can agree on something!

[H380]

Dont know if you are calling me out or someone else ,I'm not claiming to have a 3 1/2 minute skinner.. I have one who is efficient and does a good job. My Ave shows it.

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[Marty S]

Ewwww... Ooooooohhhhh...!


I use a winch in my old age cuz it never gets tired or sore hands, winch is slow, 5 minutes a day all day long. But I can do it (3.5 min) manually and I've met lots of guys that could and were better and faster than me. Remember ole Coyoteskinner from Sask? That everybody (except me) hated. I bet he was telling the truth because he is a professional skinner in Sask and skins for Phil Patchin. I met many a Mennonite fellow at Beasley's fur shack who, when they started had never skinned an animal before and when they finished we're much faster than I was, consistently, all day long. I think the record skinned in a day was 120? And not by some youngin' but some old fart, but there are tricks to the trade... most certainly. So, way to go Albert T! It doesn't take long for an untrained person to catch on when they are taught and get volume practice.

[Olthreelegs]

Originally Posted by H380

Dont know if you are calling me out or someone else ,I'm not claiming to have a 3 1/2 minute skinner.. I have one who is efficient and does a good job. My Ave shows it.

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not calling you out. referring to the times posted by the another poster.

[Marty S]

I'm lazy too in my old age, I'm an old has been. It's nice to be between ages 18-30 if one aspires to put up fur at 100 mph, and like I eluded to, one must deploy custom skinning cheats to accomplish such things and keep up the pace. I don't anymore, there are easier and better ways, and in my broke-down condition, it's never a race anymore, not as fast but gets it done.

Anybody looking for a job skinning next winter? Let me know!

[HunterDave]

I've seen the end product of fast jobs of putting up coyotes and I can say that I'm not a fan of it. The first thing that I noticed is that the pelts sounded like cardboard when handled as opposed to a crisp wax paper like sound. I suppose that the job was done good enough if you are doing large quantities but a better job would bring more money at auction. Haste makes waste IMO.

[Marty S]

Have you ever seen profession work that was done fast by experienced professionals that knew what they were doing?

[Olthreelegs]

Originally Posted by HunterDave

I've seen the end product of fast jobs of putting up coyotes and I can say that I'm not a fan of it. The first thing that I noticed is that the pelts sounded like cardboard when handled as opposed to a crisp wax paper like sound. I suppose that the job was done good enough if you are doing large quantities but a better job would bring more money at auction. Haste makes waste IMO.

agreed

[H380]

When I say good I'm referring to a skinner that consistently keeps skins in top 10 lots sold . No matter how good a fur is if it's put up wrong it results in a lower sale price . I'm sure there are many great hides that end up as only mediocre sellers because of poor handling. A good skinner doesn't have that problem

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[HunterDave]

I've never seen your 3 minute fleshing job, Marty, but I have seen quick fleshing by a professional skinner who's been at it as long as you if not longer. That is the fleshing that I'm referring to. If you can flesh coyotes in three minutes and you say that it can't be done better then that's what it is. The very first thing that a grader does when he grabs a pelt is to give it a snap to hear what it sounds like. It ought to sound like wax paper rather than cardboard.

It typically takes me between 10 to 15 minutes to flesh a coyote taking my time. It's the one thing that I can control that will effect the value of the pelt so why rush it? Obviously, someone that puts up large quantities of coyotes on a daily basis can't take the the same amount of time to get things done and has to take shortcuts (ie. leave the cartiledge in) and has to do things quicker.

I actually thought that you were being sarcastic with your timings in your initial post on this thread but now I see that you are serious about them. I don't think that they very realistic for the average Trapper putting up his own fur. You don't get extra points for speed but you do for quality.

[Marty S]

All cartilage needs to be taken out, 20-30 seconds. But that's not called fleshing, that's called taking the cartilage out of the ears. i always take the cartilage out of the ears in my old age, the #1 buyer in the world just happens to not like it when the cartilage remains, but surely you knew that too... Doesn't everybody?