....... 2012 Sheep Thread......... - Page 7

twsheephunter · #**181** 10-03-2012, 02:38 PM

But hes sure going to look good on the wall. Its been a long 4 years and alot of sweat and many days on a horse. I had a legal ram 2 years ago at less then 150 yards small tight curl real light and i wanted a bigger one so i let him go. To watch him 2 days later be hauled out by an outfitter

and probably right across the border.

Blanka · #**182** 10-03-2012, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by twsheephunter

But hes sure going to look good on the wall. Its been a long 4 years and alot of sweat and many days on a horse. I had a legal ram 2 years ago at less then 150 yards small tight curl real light and i wanted a bigger one so i let him go. To watch him 2 days later be hauled out by an outfitter

and probably right across the border.

Any Legal Bighorn is a trophy in my mind, thats a beauty you got there!!!! dont let anyone tell you differently. After Shooting my first Ram this year I know how much bloody work it is and He is going on the wall too

Congrats again!!

Tundra Monkey · #**183** 10-03-2012, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Blanka

Any Legal Bighorn is a trophy in my mind, thats a beauty you got there!!!! dont let anyone tell you differently. After Shooting my first Ram this year I know how much bloody work it is and He is going on the wall too

Congrats again!!

x2....congrats

I'd give ya a big ol' smilies cheer here but this stupid puter' won't let me access them........but it's the thought that counts.

Duk Dog · #**184** 10-03-2012, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 25-06rem.model700

10 year old 40 inch 166 bc Nwt dall from mid august i guided

11 year old 38 i caught on film

Right on, congrats. I was looking forward to seeing how your season went this fall, always enjoy the pics.

twsheephunter · #**185** 10-03-2012, 09:19 PM

Thanks Congrats to all of your awesome sheep too. Next year going for a goat in BC. And get the father inlaw a sheep too. There was one more legal where i shot mine but let him grow some. So hopefully hes there nextyear.

Sakoman · #**186** 10-03-2012, 09:25 PM

Congrats twsheephunter on your ram!

grndchekem · #**187** 10-04-2012, 11:32 AM

tw,

Nice ram, F&W held the ram for three days that would have had me nervous to say the least. Nice to see they plugged it.

As for the boys that did the leg work and pointed you to the ram don`t you think it`s fair to "NOT" take your dad into the spot they sent you into? This is the reason I never send a friend into sheep pockets.

Just saying.....

My first post here but had to stand up for the buds who actually did the original work to find them.

Congrats on your first ram tw.

westren · #**188** 10-04-2012, 12:16 PM

def....6.5 YEARS.....NICE RAM

bowhuntercam · #**189** 10-04-2012, 12:39 PM

Its hard to tell and its in your hands!

bone collecter · #**190** 10-04-2012, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bdub

All I see is 4.5, 1.5 to the first annuli from the tip, next one close to that looks like a false one. Whatever the case for sure not 7.5 or 8.5. Whoevers aging needs to get educated for sure.

Glad to see someone else knows what there looking at. 4.5 is all i would say he is.
Trophy is in the eyes of the beholder. Congrats on the ram twsheephunter.

walking buffalo · #**191** 10-04-2012, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by twsheephunter

From the pics, which are pretty good, I see a 4.5 year old ram.

As I mentioned, Good for you in taking a young Legal ram.

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Originally Posted by bdub

All I see is 4.5, 1.5 to the first annuli from the tip, next one close to that looks like a false one. Whatever the case for sure not 7.5 or 8.5. Whoevers aging needs to get educated for sure.

The incorrect aging of rams at registration is a Big Problem for sheep hunting's future.

ESRD is using age and horn size data to push for severely restricted regulation changes, a big part of their argument is that rams are taking longer to reach legal size. The over-aging of rams fudges the data in favour of these changes.

I hope the mistake was a 'mistake'....

pottymouth · #**192** 10-04-2012, 03:49 PM

http://www.rw.ttu.edu/butler/techniq...horn_sheep.pdf

bdub · #**193** 10-04-2012, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by walking buffalo

From the pics, which are pretty good, I see a 4.5 year old ram.

As I mentioned, Good for you in taking a young Legal ram.

The incorrect aging of rams at registration is a Big Problem for sheep hunting's future.

ESRD is using age and horn size data to push for severely restricted regulation changes, a big part of their argument is that rams are taking longer to reach legal size. The over-aging of rams fudges the data in favour of these changes.

I hope the mistake was a 'mistake'....

I share your concern completely. What the heck can we as hunters do about it I am wondering. Is it a scam that they are trying to pull to support their bad science or what. Can a supposed trained individual call that a 6.5 year old ram or is every legal ram just rubber stamped as such? Makes me wonder.

I also apologize to TW for not congratulating you on a fine ram. I was just kind of stupified that they would call that 8.5 or 7.5 as stated in the earlier post. That ram had tremendous growth. Good genetics, good mothering, good feed etc. There are rams that make book at 5.5 years, not just south of the border, but right here in Alberta. The whole genetic bull crap argument they are pushing is just that.

Diamond Hitch · #**194** 10-04-2012, 07:58 PM

Triple on rams

#**195** 10-04-2012, 08:03 PM

Personally I'd say 5.5 years from the picture.

bdub · #**196** 10-04-2012, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Diamond Hitch

Triple on rams

Very nice, congrats to you guys. Guided or self guided? B.C. or Yukon? if you don't mind me asking. Any more details of the hunt you can share.

Rackmastr · #**197** 10-04-2012, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sheephunter

Personally I'd say 5.5 years from the picture.

Thats what I get from the pic.....

ksteed17 · #**198** 10-04-2012, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rackmastr

Thats what I get from the pic.....

That's what I thought as well.

blackmamba · #**199** 10-04-2012, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Diamond Hitch

Triple on rams

love these stones you guys got !! I know how hard you guys worked for those rams and enjoy seeing the pics ..

congrats to all of you

mamba,

pottymouth · #**200** 10-04-2012, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Diamond Hitch

Triple on rams

Congrats great looking Stones guys.

Rackmastr · #**201** 10-04-2012, 08:38 PM

Thats a sweet lookin set of Stones! Congrats! An elk as well on the trip....wow looks sweet!

Bearen09 · #**202** 10-04-2012, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by walking buffalo

From the pics, which are pretty good, I see a 4.5 year old ram.

As I mentioned, Good for you in taking a young Legal ram.

The incorrect aging of rams at registration is a Big Problem for sheep hunting's future.

ESRD is using age and horn size data to push for severely restricted regulation changes, a big part of their argument is that rams are taking longer to reach legal size. The over-aging of rams fudges the data in favour of these changes.

I hope the mistake was a 'mistake'....

Ya I see what you guys are seeing now. The one at the base is a false one that I counted as age 8.I still see 6.5. I usually go by where there 4 years lies and depending on where it sits is were I get that age.They say usually if the 4th year is higher than the eye that they are usually over 8, and the opp. for the 4th being highter.

Bearen09 · #**203** 10-04-2012, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Diamond Hitch

Triple on rams

That's awesome, congrats...

albertadave · #**204** 10-05-2012, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by sheephunter

Personally I'd say 5.5 years from the picture.

I see a 5.5 year old ram as well.

walking buffalo · #**205** 10-05-2012, 01:56 PM

Awsome Rams DiamondH!

While we patiently wait for the next round of Rams, let's revisit the age game.

This is what I see. A view of the back of the ram's head would help determine any false annulie.

Tip to first line, 0.5 years, plus four more years= 4.5 year old ram at harvest.

Where do you guys differ on the Annulie to get 5.5 or more?

Rackmaster, got a picture of your better-half's 4.5 year old ram handy?

This is Weird. Picture will only show here upside down. All is fine in photobucket.... Mods, is the forum still having issues?

grndchekem · #**206** 10-05-2012, 02:53 PM

I think that ram had a bad year, looks like his 3rd year may have been a bad one with little growth.

Hard to tell without seeing it live! I would be suprised if this ram is 4.5, If that is a bad year makes more sense, if he`s 4.5 he would have been a dandy by 7!

Rackmastr · #**207** 10-05-2012, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearen09

Ya I see what you guys are seeing now. The one at the base is a false one that I counted as age 8.I still see 6.5. I usually go by where there 4 years lies and depending on where it sits is were I get that age.They say usually if the 4th year is higher than the eye that they are usually over 8, and the opp. for the 4th being highter.

That works really pretty good on thinhorns, but I havent found that it works too amazingly well on bighorns in my experience. I've got a bighorn in my house thats 4.5 years old and 35" long and about 1-2" past full curl.

But ya....on thinhorns that method seems to work really well.

Rackmastr · #**208** 10-05-2012, 03:23 PM

Dale I think I was adding in an extra one between his .5 and his 1.5 year mark. I think I'd agree that the ram pictured could be easily 4.5 years old rather than 5.5 as I had originally thought.

Here is a pretty easy ram to figure out....the field pics show it well but this pic shows it even better.....

fickell · #**209** 10-05-2012, 04:37 PM

Any one hear any info on the ram shot at the veiw point at the cadomin mine on oct 3

Huntnut · #**210** 10-05-2012, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by grndchekem

I think that ram had a bad year, looks like his 3rd year may have been a bad one with little growth.

Hard to tell without seeing it live! I would be suprised if this ram is 4.5, If that is a bad year makes more sense, if he`s 4.5 he would have been a dandy by 7!

I agree-I'm thinking 5.5