View Poll Results: What is your favourtie varmint calibre
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222
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5 |
4.24% |
223
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27 |
22.88% |
22-250
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52 |
44.07% |
220 Swift
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8 |
6.78% |
204 Ruger
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26 |
22.03% |
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01-19-2007, 03:32 PM
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Re: Varmint Caliber
It was a model 700 Remington and yes the recoil and muzzle jump were very limited. Was it quiet...it went bang is all I can really say. I wearing electronic ear protection at the time. I was pretty impressed with it...more than any of the other 17s have impressed me.
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01-19-2007, 03:33 PM
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17 Fireball
Just curious Sheephunter, why does the Fireball set the new standard for 17's? The fireball will drive a 20gr pill at 4000, but not the 25 gr one. The 17 Remington exceeds the Fireball in every category, I was just curious if you had actually compared the 17 Fireball(mach IV) to the 17 Remington. When you talk about 17's, the 17 Remington is really hard to beat.
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01-19-2007, 03:34 PM
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Re: 17 Fireball
Okay you have me totally confused here. Are you talking about the the new .17 Remington Fireball????????? I think we are talking about the same thing here.
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01-19-2007, 05:01 PM
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17 Remington VS 17 Remington Fireball
Hey Sheephunter we're not talking about the same thing.
The 17 Remington Fireball is different than the 17 Remington, which has been a factory offering since the early 70's.
In essence, the 17 Remington Fireball is a necked down 221 fireball.
The 17 Remington is a necked down 222 Remington Magnum.
Hope this helps.
If you liked shooting the Fireball, try the 17 Remington, they're a lot of fun too!
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01-19-2007, 05:05 PM
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Re: 17 Remington VS 17 Remington Fireball
Shot them many times Guest.....
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01-19-2007, 05:59 PM
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Re: 17 Remington VS 17 Remington Fireball
www.predatorxtreme.com/ar...ticleID=68 this is the link i think that started alot of the buzz...took me a bit to find it but there we go, the fox guys will be all over this one...would be awesome for reloaders who love shootin gophers too....a bit more of a niche round for the more experienced coyote caller who is fussy about the holes in his fur and therefore a stickler for shot placement...
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01-23-2007, 11:14 AM
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Re: "varmit cartridges"
I have just been re-reading "THE RIFLE BOOK" by Jack O'Connor.
In his chapter on "Varmint Cartridges" he gives a lot of praise to the .22 Hornet (more for an eastern chuck and western prarie dog round). He also has great praise for the .22/250.
Then he discusses .25 cal cartridges (more with coyotes and jackrabbits in mind) and says of the .275 Roberts "If I were pinned down I'd probably admit that it is just about my own favorite varmint cartridge."
Of course we have a good handful of "new" cartridges" since he wrote this book in 1949.
Ronin in Rocky
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02-06-2007, 01:17 PM
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Re: Varmint Caliber
Think a 270 would mess up a coyote too much? I guess it would be fine if you had no intention of selling the pelt. Wonder if that little 100 g. bullet you can get in 270 would help?
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02-11-2007, 10:24 PM
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Re: Varmint Caliber
All great rounds. I use a .243 and a .22mag. Definatelly my next gun though is the .17!
Any opinions on the. 280 as an all-around? I'm looking at ballistics compared to recoil energy. The .280 seems to have similar ballistics to the 7mm but with much less recoil.
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02-19-2007, 12:17 PM
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Re: Varmint Caliber
tree guy, my boy uses a 280rem, personally i feel that it is a 'useless' caliber the difference between it and a 270 is insignificant (.284-.277=.007"). big whoop,either one could be discontinued in favour of the other.
the only way i would buy this on purpose is if I had a lifetime supply of 7mm bullets and suitable powder.
not every retailer carries a box of 7mm express either.
if i only had one gun it wouldnt be a 280, its just plain awkward
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02-21-2007, 01:29 PM
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Re: Varmint Caliber
if youre going to buy a 280 you may as well learn to shoot guns with more recoil and have more knock down power with the 7Mag
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02-23-2007, 09:37 PM
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You guys are crazy....the 280Rem is a great round, and if I had to choose, I'd choose it over the 7 Rem Mag ANY day of the week. If cartridges were 'useless' because they were too close to others, then there wouldnt be 1/2 the cartridges out there that exist today....
280 Rem and .284 Win are two that trump the 7 Rem Mag any day......unless you NEED "mag" in the title....but that only benefits yourself...
Sorry...post limit reached!!
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02-23-2007, 09:40 PM
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BTW,
Knock down power is hitting an animal in the vitals accuratly....
Kinetic energy is a moot debate when you're talking 280Rem vs 7Rem Mag
Thats just my opinion though.....
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02-24-2007, 07:07 PM
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Re: ..
Thanks Rack. I spent alot of time looking at ballistic tables and found that the .280 seemed very, very close to the 7mm on paper. The big difference was in recoil energy. I mention recoil for two reasons. First, I have bad shoulders. I am a big believer in spending alot of time at the range getting to know my gun, heavy recoil definately takes its toll on me. Second, when I was 8-9 years old, and the only gun I had ever shot was a .22, my buddy's bonehead brother let me shoot his 12 gauge loaded with a slug! So I'll be the first to admit that I have a flinch. It's taken years and thousands of rounds to kind of get it managable, but I have kind of had to learn to shoot around it. That's why the .280 appealed to me. My only hesitation is round availiability.
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02-27-2007, 12:40 PM
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Re: .. 280 round availability
Won't find much at your local Canadian Tire or Walmart, but if you have the opportunity to frequent a hunting store of any size, like Wholesale, they seem to have plenty of variety and stock. Just stock up. As long as what's manufactured meets your needs.
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03-09-2007, 07:12 PM
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Re: Varmint Caliber
Go 204. If you like your dogs with as little damage as possible the 204 is second to none. Plus 4100fps isnt bad either. If you are strictly a gopher man you may find it a little rich in the shell department.
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