If you've ever caused an aircraft to be diverted...

[TomCanuck]

You might be a redneck...

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/02...-from-halifax/

The media likes to go on about Alberta being full of them, but there's no shortage of em out East in my experience

I can imagine they're in for a big bill from the airline.

[220swifty]

I'm willing to bet the fellow passengers would have rather put up with a bit of smoke coming from the toilet, than live through that travel nightmare.

[Esox]

these idiots should be banned from commercial flights for a long time and should have to pay for any of the extra costs that came from having to land in Bermuda.

[Classic_Cool]

Half the airplane bathrooms still have ashtrays in them. Maybe if they took them out

[TomCanuck]

Originally Posted by Classic_Cool

Half the airplane bathrooms still have ashtrays in them. Maybe if they took them out

You've got to wonder if any country allows people to smoke on an aircraft anymore. I've flown in some sketchy places, don't remember any that allowed it.

[Taco]

Why the hell not, even RIM executives can throw hissy fits on planes

[TomCanuck]

Originally Posted by Taco

Why the hell not, even RIM executives can throw hissy fits on planes

Former RIM executives IIRC.

[CNP]

Originally Posted by Classic_Cool

Half the airplane bathrooms still have ashtrays in them. Maybe if they took them out

Ashtrays make people smoke?

Spoons make you fat?

Guns kill people?

I for one am glad when there is tp in the bathroom.......but the fact that there is tp...........doesn't make me ____?

[Ken07AOVette]

The airline should sue them for the costs involved.
Stupid entitled bastards.

Kind of ridiculous too, how far it went.

[CNP]

Got to questions the pilots decision to land in Bermuda. Maybe those passengers got too out of hand and it was the thing to do? Considering the fallout of going to Bermuda I imagine that the pilot will have to answer for that. Two hours flying time from BDA to the Dominican.......if the situation were manageable taking them off the plane in the Dominican and escorting them across the border to Haiti would have been the thing to do

[Classic_Cool]

Originally Posted by ehntr

Ashtrays make people smoke?

Spoons make you fat?

Guns kill people?

I for one am glad when there is tp in the bathroom.......but the fact that there is tp...........doesn't make me ____?

Ashtrays may not make people smoke, but they do make it more convenient.

Next McDonald's will install funnels on the edge of their tables and put round bottoms on their coffee cups

[doetracks]

Trust me, the pilots will not be chastised for their response.

Smoking on board an aircraft is illegal under Canadian Aviation Regulations, and is briefed accordingly.

Yes, some aircraft still have ashtrays. Consider them memories of a bygone era.

Smoking

602.06 (1) No person shall smoke on board an aircraft during take-off or landing or when directed not to smoke by the pilot-in-command.

(2) No person shall smoke in an aircraft lavatory.

(3) No person shall tamper with or disable a smoke detector installed in an aircraft lavatory without permission from a crew member or the operator of the aircraft.

Canadian Aviation Regulations

[Classic_Cool]

Originally Posted by doetracks

Trust me, the pilots will not be chastised for their response.

Smoking on board an aircraft is illegal under Canadian Aviation Regulations, and is briefed accordingly.

Yes, some aircraft still have ashtrays. Consider them memories of a bygone era.

Smoking

602.06 (1) No person shall smoke on board an aircraft during take-off or landing or when directed not to smoke by the pilot-in-command.

(2) No person shall smoke in an aircraft lavatory.

(3) No person shall tamper with or disable a smoke detector installed in an aircraft lavatory without permission from a crew member or the operator of the aircraft.

Canadian Aviation Regulations

Boggles the mind that someone might actually try to disable the smoke detector. But then again I'm not sure how people have sex in those bathrooms

[FishingMOM]

Originally Posted by Classic_Cool

Boggles the mind that someone might actually try to disable the smoke detector. But then again I'm not sure how people have sex in those bathrooms

No kidding.
Those bathrooms could do with 6-12 more inches of width.

[doetracks]

Originally Posted by FishingMOM

No kidding.
Those bathrooms could do with 6-12 more inches of width.

Hmmm??

[Batwoman]

If adults cannot abide by a few simple rules.......I am betting the rules to come down the pike will be no tobacco or smoking stuff of any kind permitted in carry on or on your person. That would solve the problem of any future incidents like this silly one..........Geesh if you know or think you know you have to go into the bathroom to smoke then maybe they do not want you to smoke while on board the plane?

As for recovering all of the money spent - Yes, indeed they should have to pay for everything and lien every item they have that can be to prevent them from selling it then claiming they are flat broke.........while I hate to see the court system bogged down by something so silly as what these people did - if they are not punished and made to pay for everything - the airlines will only have this to deal with in the future when Jr. and his bride go to the islands on their honeymoon.

[FishingMOM]

Originally Posted by doetracks

Hmmm??

I dont know how men who are broader through the shoulders than I am fit into the bathrooms.
It baffles me how parents can change a babies diaper in there. Heck I changed the diaper right on the seat. at least there was more space.

Now as for classic cool's comment about sex in the bathrooms..... Yeah RIGHT. would have to be 2 beanpoles to fit in there.

[Mickey]

Make these clowns pay for every single expense that the airline and passengers incurred.

If they cant pay, make them pay increments until it is paid off.

People like this need to be made an example out of so that people know it isnt ok to pull stunts like this.

If they get off scott free then it sends the wrong message.

[Classic_Cool]

Originally Posted by FishingMOM

I dont know how men who are broader through the shoulders than I am fit into the bathrooms.
It baffles me how parents can change a babies diaper in there. Heck I changed the diaper right on the seat. at least there was more space.

Now as for classic cool's comment about sex in the bathrooms..... Yeah RIGHT. would have to be 2 beanpoles to fit in there.

Definitely not easy. I'm 6'1 and I can barely turn around in there. Can't imagine what obese people do. I mean the general usage, not the sex part

[Donkey Oatey]

Originally Posted by Classic_Cool

Definitely not easy. I'm 6'1 and I can barely turn around in there. Can't imagine what obese people do. I mean the general usage, not the sex part

I am 6'3" and there is no changing your mind. Its either walk in or back in. Not a great place.

Idiots smoke on the plane. Doesn't get to much dumber than that.

[omega50]

Originally Posted by Mickey

Make these clowns pay for every single expense that the airline and passengers incurred.

If they cant pay, make them pay increments until it is paid off.

People like this need to be made an example out of so that people know it isnt ok to pull stunts like this.

If they get off scott free then it sends the wrong message.

x1000
And after they have paid-
Make them do Community Service!!

Make them Mods of the AO Forum for a week. That will teach them.

[Big Daddy Badger]

Its like a 4 hour flight and anyone that ought to be allowed unsupervised on a plane knows that smoking is a no no.

They should be jailed for being an afront to common sense.

I hope they get banned by every decent carrier.

[Classic_Cool]

Originally Posted by pesky672

Its like a 4 hour flight and anyone that ought to be allowed unsupervised on a plane knows that smoking is a no no.

They should be jailed for being an afront to common sense.

I hope they get banned by every decent carrier.

Yeah there's a lit NO SMOKING sign in the face of every passenger on the plane. Not to mention the captain warns them in 2 languages not to do it. Stupid as those guys are, they can't claim it as a defense.

[doetracks]

They can indeed be charged.

[CNP]

Originally Posted by doetracks

Trust me, the pilots will not be chastised for their response.

Smoking on board an aircraft is illegal under Canadian Aviation Regulations, and is briefed accordingly.

Yes, some aircraft still have ashtrays. Consider them memories of a bygone era.

Smoking

602.06 (1) No person shall smoke on board an aircraft during take-off or landing or when directed not to smoke by the pilot-in-command.

(2) No person shall smoke in an aircraft lavatory.

(3) No person shall tamper with or disable a smoke detector installed in an aircraft lavatory without permission from a crew member or the operator of the aircraft.

Canadian Aviation Regulations

No smoking means no smoking. Just saying that "smoking" doesn't warrant a diversion that incurs tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars in lost revenue for the company (the smokers aren't paying for that). The pilot may have been reacting to a safety situation where the passengers were abusive/violent. I suspect that was the situation. Who knows? If it was just smoking, he'll end up explaining to the leadership why landing in BDA was such a good idea at the time.

[midgetwaiter]

Originally Posted by Classic_Cool

Definitely not easy. I'm 6'1 and I can barely turn around in there. Can't imagine what obese people do. I mean the general usage, not the sex part

Off topic but the Wife and I stayed in a B&B once where I had to get out of the shower, turn and then get back in to wash my back.

[Classic_Cool]

Originally Posted by ehntr

No smoking means no smoking. Just saying that "smoking" doesn't warrant a diversion that incurs tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars in lost revenue for the company (the smokers aren't paying for that). The pilot may have been reacting to a safety situation where the passengers were abusive/violent. I suspect that was the situation. Who knows? If it was just smoking, he'll end up explaining to the leadership why landing in BDA was such a good idea at the time.

In "these times" I'm not sure the pilot is allowed to assume that smoke on a plane is harmless. Probably just some ignorant *******s thumbing their noses at authority, but then again they could be part of some hillbilly terrorist cell that's attempting to blow up the plane Rules are rules.

[Big Daddy Badger]

Originally Posted by ehntr

No smoking means no smoking. Just saying that "smoking" doesn't warrant a diversion that incurs tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars in lost revenue for the company (the smokers aren't paying for that). The pilot may have been reacting to a safety situation where the passengers were abusive/violent. I suspect that was the situation. Who knows? If it was just smoking, he'll end up explaining to the leadership why landing in BDA was such a good idea at the time.

Its policy.
There isn't supposed to be smoke on an aircraft and the presanse of smoke when non is expected could mean anything.
They get it on the ground...fast.
The way things are now...they can't just assume all the smoke is from cigarettes only.
What if the cigarette smoke is by co-incidence concealing another ignition?

[ali#1]

Originally Posted by FishingMOM

I dont know how men who are broader through the shoulders than I am fit into the bathrooms.
It baffles me how parents can change a babies diaper in there. Heck I changed the diaper right on the seat. at least there was more space.

Now as for classic cool's comment about sex in the bathrooms..... Yeah RIGHT. would have to be 2 beanpoles to fit in there.

I changed my babies diaper in there not that long ago, It wasn't that bad as long as you don't turn sideways.

[Big Daddy Badger]

Originally Posted by ali#1

I changed my babies diaper in there not that long ago, It wasn't that bad as long as you don't turn sideways.

Yiou can turn around in there?

Good Lord...whats that like?

I virtually have to back in and I'm not THAT big.