Crowsnest area snow pack?

[Flymph]

Or better said "Snow Water Equivalent" probably in the Old Man Water shed?
South of the boarder it is dismal! My particular area is at 58% and drought alerts already being imposed. Much fear about increased amount of Wild Fires. Have already had Wild Fires in March in some areas!

Your thoughts, please.

[lastlatvian]

When a party that doesn't believe in man affected climate change is elected it will only get worse and more extreme each year.

[lannie]

Originally Posted by lastlatvian

When a party that doesn't believe in man affected climate change is elected it will only get worse and more extreme each year.

WOW- That is one heck of a stretch.

[pikeman06]

Originally Posted by lastlatvian

When a party that doesn't believe in man affected climate change is elected it will only get worse and more extreme each year.

Rachel is that you?

[CNP]

There wasn't an extraordinary snowfall last winter but it wasn't minimal either. Increased wildfires? Increased fear...…………………only you can prevent fear of wildfires.

It's been a wet spring so far.

[CNP]

Originally Posted by lastlatvian

When a party that doesn't believe in man affected climate change is elected it will only get worse and more extreme each year.

Is this you?

[SNAPFisher]

Originally Posted by CNP

Is this you?

[matt1984]

Originally Posted by lastlatvian

When a party that doesn't believe in man affected climate change is elected it will only get worse and more extreme each year.

Last year actually had above average snowpack, that must have been the carbon tax helping?

[scel]

Originally Posted by matt1984

Last year actually had above average snowpack, that must have been the carbon tax helping?

Uhhh...This entire thread has already gone full bozo. I guess I will put on some Jason Kenney makeup and wade in...

This year's snow pack was significantly below average. Last year's snowpack was average, but with a much faster melt.



Carbon taxes suck ass, but the little evidence we have is that they should work.

Carbon tax is here to stay---'getting rid of the carbon tax' is just asinine political rhetoric. Either the provincial government mandates a tax or the federal government will. The difference being who collects the taxes. The only thing that would p!ss me off more than the carbon tax is letting Trudeau decide how the carbon tax money is spent.

[matt1984]

Originally Posted by scel

Uhhh...This entire thread has already gone full bozo. I guess I will put on some Jason Kenney makeup and wade in...

This year's snow pack was significantly below average. Last year's snowpack was average, but with a much faster melt.



Carbon taxes suck ass, but the little evidence we have is that they should work.

Carbon tax is here to stay---'getting rid of the carbon tax' is just asinine political rhetoric. Either the provincial government mandates a tax or the federal government will. The difference being who collects the taxes. The only thing that would p!ss me off more than the carbon tax is letting Trudeau decide how the carbon tax money is spent.

In the oldman basin snowpack was above average last year, look at lost creek or racehorse snow pillows. Alberta and probably Canada could stop using fossil fuels tomorrow and it wouldn’t make an impact on global levels of Carbon, let alone climate.

[Sundancefisher]

Originally Posted by scel

Uhhh...This entire thread has already gone full bozo. I guess I will put on some Jason Kenney makeup and wade in...

This year's snow pack was significantly below average. Last year's snowpack was average, but with a much faster melt.



Carbon taxes suck ass, but the little evidence we have is that they should work.

Carbon tax is here to stay---'getting rid of the carbon tax' is just asinine political rhetoric. Either the provincial government mandates a tax or the federal government will. The difference being who collects the taxes. The only thing that would p!ss me off more than the carbon tax is letting Trudeau decide how the carbon tax money is spent.

Actually evidence proves carbon taxes does nothing. No one is changing their habits. Costs are rising and kids are getting some rebates at the parents expense. WE are 1.4% of the global CO2 output. India, China, Russia...doing nothing but increase their output. Oil and gas consumption is rising every year.

Combine that with the global temperature increase yearly since the ice age 13000 years ago...where is the change?

Pundits state to impact on carbon usage the carbon tax needs to be $300 / ton...versus $30.

Think taxes hurt now...WOW.

At the prescribed necessary level it will make hunting and fishing cost prohibitive to drive anywhere not to mention flights.

[bessiedog]

i Wonder how many of us here have made up our minds about this stiff without doing more than ‘coffee table’ research about it.

It’s a complex issue with a lot of interest group white noise interwoven in it.

Tough for us average Joes to make an informed decision bout it.

Sad state of affairs.....

Anyhooooo..... she be dry round these parts. I’m hopin no forestry shut down and stream closures..... but it ain’t lookin good kids.

..... having said that.... it has started snowing.

[Joe Black]

Originally Posted by lastlatvian

When a party that doesn't believe in man affected climate change is elected it will only get worse and more extreme each year.

you're having a party for man affected climate change?

thats weird

[Smoky buck]

Spring rain is most important May June is when it’s most important

[Smoky buck]

Originally Posted by lastlatvian

When a party that doesn't believe in man affected climate change is elected it will only get worse and more extreme each year.

I know it’s been legalized but you might want to step away from the bong before logging onto public forums

[wildbill]

Originally Posted by lastlatvian

When a party that doesn't believe in man affected climate change is elected it will only get worse and more extreme each year.

Oh my!!!!
Give it a rest!!!

[59whiskers]

Carbon tax is here to stay. The brokers I know say investment capital is fleeing Canada.

[Maxwell87]

snow pacts are way down this year similar to 2&3 years ago, depending on how it melts and what sort of rain/snow we get in the next 3-4 weeks it could be a low water summer... how hot the summer will be? who knows...

[Don Andersen]

The UN says 12 years to fix the Carbon issue or the world dies.
And we still argue.
God forgive our actions.
And to illustrate stupidity, the SNC BS which resulted in NOTHING accomplished for several months.
Tbe clock is ticking


Don

[zabbo]

Originally Posted by lastlatvian

When a party that doesn't believe in man affected climate change is elected it will only get worse and more extreme each year.

I'm quite sure an intelligent person like yourself realizes the green house gasses generated by Alberta, and indeed all of Canada are a tiny bit of the global total (approx. 1.4 to 1.5 %). Also, these gasses have no clue that the 49th parallel is the American Canadian border, or the Pacific and Atlantic oceans divide continents. What happens in Canada is pretty much irrelevant in the grand scheme. Just saying.

[SNAPFisher]

Originally Posted by zabbo

I'm quite sure an intelligent person like yourself realizes the green house gasses generated by Alberta, and indeed all of Canada are a tiny bit of the global total (approx. 1.4 to 1.5 %). Also, these gasses have no clue that the 49th parallel is the American Canadian border, or the Pacific and Atlantic oceans divide continents. What happens in Canada is pretty much irrelevant in the grand scheme. Just saying.

We have to start somewhere. How about being a leading country for a change.

The UN is warning what climate scientists have said:
https://www.theguardian.com/environm...mark-un-report

So it is not the UN that is the source.

They are also not saying the world dies. Of course not. But it will change and we will get to the point that it would be harder to change it or slow it at all.

[cranky]

I think its pretty majorly presumptuous of us and by us i mean mankind to think we can have any affect on changing the climate. We are still struggling to predict weather accurately daily for gosh sakes. They said we were going to get 10 to 20 centimetres here this morning on the weather net work and now i see several hours later they have revised it to say 1 to 2 cc. What does UN know?

We may not like the result of trying to change it as much or more as what may be coming. As somebody on this forum said elsewhere what happens when the carbon taxes on gas keep going up which they will and end up costing us more in gas than the hotel we are going to for the night. As gas goes up so does all goods as its all hauled by fuel burners before we get it.

[matt1984]

Originally Posted by SNAPFisher

We have to start somewhere. How about being a leading country for a change.

The UN is warning what climate scientists have said:
https://www.theguardian.com/environm...mark-un-report

So it is not the UN that is the source.

They are also not saying the world dies. Of course not. But it will change and we will get to the point that it would be harder to change it or slow it at all.

Why is everyone so quick to believe everything “climate scientists” say but don’t believe a thing that comes out of the mouth of the government bios? They fall in the same boat in my eyes, they’re both on government pay rolls and their results should deservedly be scrutinized by the public.

[SNAPFisher]

Originally Posted by matt1984

Why is everyone so quick to believe everything “climate scientists” say but don’t believe a thing that comes out of the mouth of the government bios? They fall in the same boat in my eyes, they’re both on government pay rolls and their results should deservedly be scrutinized by the public.

I don't know if you referring to me but I'm not "that guy". Why would anyone believe someone on a forum, who is not a "climate scientist" but an arm chair expert? Obviously we should ignore science and go with "some guys" opinion....NOT!

[hal53]

Originally Posted by SNAPFisher

We have to start somewhere. How about being a leading country for a change.

The UN is warning what climate scientists have said:
https://www.theguardian.com/environm...mark-un-report

So it is not the UN that is the source.

They are also not saying the world dies. Of course not. But it will change and we will get to the point that it would be harder to change it or slow it at all.

What about the 30,000 scientists who say the whole thing is a farce?

[Don Andersen]

Originally Posted by hal53

What about the 30,000 scientists who say the whole thing is a farce?

Where are the 30,000?

Don

[zabbo]

Originally Posted by SNAPFisher

We have to start somewhere. How about being a leading country for a change.

The UN is warning what climate scientists have said:
https://www.theguardian.com/environm...mark-un-report

So it is not the UN that is the source.

They are also not saying the world dies. Of course not. But it will change and we will get to the point that it would be harder to change it or slow it at all.

Quite right. We do have to start somewhere. Seems to me we already have in terms of solar and wind power. Rachel has basically shut down our coal fired power plants, ( some of the cleanest and most efficient on the planet ) at huge cost to Alberta. Maybe Jason will reverse that plan, time will tell. There are getting to be more and more electric vehicles on the road all the time. These things all take time. The electrical grid would blow up if we suddenly plugged in every vehicle in the country each night. This carbon tax is just that, A TAX. All it really does is financially hamstring our country when competing in the global market. The U.N. is a bunch of hot air wind bags, jet setting the globe, slurping up champagne and caviar. Oh yes, adding hugely to green house gasses as well. Absolutely no disrespect to any of our service personnel that may have served on U.N. missions. Ask Romeo Dallaire what he thinks of the U.N.? They ordered him to do nothing while watching about a million people being butchered in Rwanda. The U.S., China and India generate approximately 60% of all green house gasses. Until they are on board anything Canada does is nothing more than symbolic at best. J.M.H.O.

[RZR]

Originally Posted by zabbo

Quite right. We do have to start somewhere. Seems to me we already have in terms of solar and wind power. Rachel has basically shut down our coal fired power plants, ( some of the cleanest and most efficient on the planet ) at huge cost to Alberta. Maybe Jason will reverse that plan, time will tell. There are getting to be more and more electric vehicles on the road all the time. These things all take time. The electrical grid would blow up if we suddenly plugged in every vehicle in the country each night. This carbon tax is just that, A TAX. All it really does is financially hamstring our country when competing in the global market. The U.N. is a bunch of hot air wind bags, jet setting the globe, slurping up champagne and caviar. Oh yes, adding hugely to green house gasses as well. Absolutely no disrespect to any of our service personnel that may have served on U.N. missions. Ask Romeo Dallaire what he thinks of the U.N.? They ordered him to do nothing while watching about a million people being butchered in Rwanda. The U.S., China and India generate approximately 60% of all green house gasses. Until they are on board anything Canada does is nothing more than symbolic at best. J.M.H.O.

And to produce the batteries in those electric vehicles was more harmful to the environment than producing a gas engine. The coal plant with all the scrubbers are pretty clean to produce power as well.

[SNAPFisher]

Originally Posted by zabbo

Quite right. We do have to start somewhere. Seems to me we already have in terms of solar and wind power. Rachel has basically shut down our coal fired power plants, ( some of the cleanest and most efficient on the planet ) at huge cost to Alberta. Maybe Jason will reverse that plan, time will tell. There are getting to be more and more electric vehicles on the road all the time. These things all take time. The electrical grid would blow up if we suddenly plugged in every vehicle in the country each night. This carbon tax is just that, A TAX. All it really does is financially hamstring our country when competing in the global market. The U.N. is a bunch of hot air wind bags, jet setting the globe, slurping up champagne and caviar. Oh yes, adding hugely to green house gasses as well. Absolutely no disrespect to any of our service personnel that may have served on U.N. missions. Ask Romeo Dallaire what he thinks of the U.N.? They ordered him to do nothing while watching about a million people being butchered in Rwanda. The U.S., China and India generate approximately 60% of all green house gasses. Until they are on board anything Canada does is nothing more than symbolic at best. J.M.H.O.

I don't know why you are going off on the UN. I really don't care. I was simply pointing out that they were bringing forwards information from someone actually doing his/her jobs. I.e. a scientist. Not the UN itself.

The rest, all your opinion and you are entitled to it. I'm sure the next generation will take the action that this generation did not. They will have to once it is a real crisis.

[dalewig]

To answer the original question (and no political comment) the south racehorse snow pillow says average range right now should be 350 - 400 mm snow water equivalent, but we are currently only at 250 mm, so very low snowpack. Hope for some spring/summer rains or could be very low tide in oldman streams. I think a bit better snowpack in the Castle area, but still below average.