Lund Hull issues

[Bigballedbore]

Just curious if anybody else out there has had any issues with their
Double riveted seams collapsing while going through some waves. Ive had the seam on both sides cave in and Lund won't do anything as they claim i hit an object in the water without even examining the boat. Had third party adjusters come look and say otherwise however to fix the damage is worth more then the hull is worth and will be written off. Boat is a 2016 1650 rebel xs. This would if Been its third summer in the water. Hoping to build a case against them so any infoisappreciated.

PS if your thinking about buying a boat don't waste your time with Lund. They won't care about ya if the time comes.

Thanks

[Smoky buck]

I don’t know why they are popular in Alberta. Growing up in BC I always heard they did not do well on the coast and leaked

I have never owned one myself though

[EZM]

I have owned probably 2 dozen Lunds and have had excellent results and all of them except on beaten up tinner that leaked but it had likely hit many rocks over the course of it's life .... but the rest were dry as a bone.

My experience with Lund customer has been dramatically different as well. I break the buttons off my cover, 3-4 years after owning it - they replaced them, I left the bilge on and it burn out - yup warranty. Any issues I've had have been self inflicted and most of the time they just replace what they find and bill it to warranty. A pleasant surprise from the folks at Riverside in St.Albert.

Is the hull "caved in" or "dented" or just leaking. If it's caved in or dented, they probably have every reason to think you smacked something - I've hit logs at high speed and not even dented the hull. Beat up some waves, never an issue, the only time I got a dent was hitting a dead head 12" under the water which resulted in a crease and long dent but the seams were intact.

Never heard of a wave causing a dent - but who knows - I guess it could happen. And, in that case, if you photograph the dent and there's no abrasion and it looks like a hull collapse - you have a case.

Even with the cheapest crap boats out there I've never heard of a wave denting a hull - but who knows right? I guess it not impossible is it?

[Bigballedbore]

After reading that your dealer helped you out i have every reason to think the dealership plays a major role in how the manufacturer responds to the claim and maybe i should be focusing my problem on the dealership as they have been no help at all.

[Duramaximos]

You have damage on both sides from two separate incidents, or one?
You'd have to be very skilled or very unlucky to have two strikes that caused the same damage on both sides...

[Bigballedbore]

Yes i have damage on both sides of the hull. I know exactly when it happened. I was caught in bad weather coming across the lake and went through some 3ft white caps. After loading the boat i noticed the damage right away.

[Positrac]

I had the hulls replaced on warranty on one 12 footer and two 14 footers. Small splits in the aluminum hull going into the rivets so they couldn’t even be re-riveted. The last time I had the dealer say they hadn’t ever seen that happen to a Lund hull before. So I had to remind him that it was the 3rd hull that was being replaced for me at that exact dealership. Lol.

I’ve had 2 more that had to have the rivets tightened up because they were leaking badly.

I finally went to a welded hull and never had another issue. I like Lunds but the don’t stand up to heavy chop out on the chuck.

[Bigballedbore]

Originally Posted by Positrac

I had the hulls replaced on warranty on one 12 footer and two 14 footers. Small splits in the aluminum hull going into the rivets so they couldn’t even be re-riveted. The last time I had the dealer say they hadn’t ever seen that happen to a Lund hull before. So I had to remind him that it was the 3rd hull that was being replaced for me at that exact dealership. Lol.

I’ve had 2 more that had to have the rivets tightened up because they were leaking badly.

I finally went to a welded hull and never had another issue. I like Lunds but the don’t stand up to heavy chop out on the chuck.

Yes I've heard the same thing from the dealer multiple times now. " I never heard of this happening" not a bit impressed with my dealer so far but i know if i go in there guns a blazing I won't get anywhere either.

[Duramaximos]

If Lund is the best fishing boat out there why do I see zero of them on the West Coast?
I fish out of Port Hardy. Honest question.

What I see instead is 50% Glass and 50% Welded Aluminum. Of the welded aluminum boats, King Fisher and Hewes Craft make up 80%, with a smattering of other brands. Literally zero lunds in Port Hardy.

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[Coiloil37]

Lund makes a good boat for lakes and it’s absolutely a regional thing. By regional I mean interior Canada/USA. You don’t see them on the west coast because they weren’t built for those conditions and they don’t handle them well. Heck, the OP got chased off the lake in 1m wind chop which is quite funny when you think about it.
A more interesting question is why do you see so many alloy boats on the northwest coast? I fished off the Charlottes for 15 years and they all claimed it was due to debris in the water even though we never hit anything. My guess is the (north) west coast guys run them because it’s local lore that alloy is stronger if you hit something, the seas aren’t that big, the distances aren’t that great and they can get away with it.
By and large the ocean market is owned by glass boats because glass usually rides more comfortably and it’s dryer.
I’ve fished through the US and Caribbean and now live in Australia and alloy boats are few and far between. The local alloy boats are all made with 5mm hulls and 4mm sides and both bar crusher and surtees have a ballast system to hold water at rest and the option to hold it in on plane so the boats heavier, more stable and doesn’t knock ALL of your fillings out at once. They still can’t hold a candle to a glass boat in normal to rough seas and they aren’t usually 50-100km offshore. It takes to long for them to get out there at the speeds they have to travel and they “might” make up 5% of the boats I see out on the water. If I do see them heading out in anything less then ideal conditions I’m usually travelling much, much faster then they are and they appear to be taking more of a beating then I am.

To compare a kingfisher at nearly 5 tons with a 6mm thick hull to a 900-1400lb Lund with a 2mm thick hull is a bit of a stretch, they’re not built for the same conditions.

[gdbugs]

I bought my Lund brand new. A year in the transom was cracking and the brackets were all cracked through. Called the dealership and they said it's not covered on their "Lifetime hull guarantee"? Had to have it rebuilt myself. Lund talks a big game but when it comes time to back it up they've got nothing.

[EZM]

Originally Posted by Coiloil37

Lund makes a good boat for lakes and it’s absolutely a regional thing. By regional I mean interior Canada/USA. You don’t see them on the west coast because they weren’t built for those conditions and they don’t handle them well. Heck, the OP got chased off the lake in 1m wind chop which is quite funny when you think about it.
A more interesting question is why do you see so many alloy boats on the northwest coast? I fished off the Charlottes for 15 years and they all claimed it was due to debris in the water even though we never hit anything. My guess is the (north) west coast guys run them because it’s local lore that alloy is stronger if you hit something, the seas aren’t that big, the distances aren’t that great and they can get away with it.
By and large the ocean market is owned by glass boats because glass usually rides more comfortably and it’s dryer.
I’ve fished through the US and Caribbean and now live in Australia and alloy boats are few and far between. The local alloy boats are all made with 5mm hulls and 4mm sides and both bar crusher and surtees have a ballast system to hold water at rest and the option to hold it in on plane so the boats heavier, more stable and doesn’t knock ALL of your fillings out at once. They still can’t hold a candle to a glass boat in normal to rough seas and they aren’t usually 50-100km offshore. It takes to long for them to get out there at the speeds they have to travel and they “might” make up 5% of the boats I see out on the water. If I do see them heading out in anything less then ideal conditions I’m usually travelling much, much faster then they are and they appear to be taking more of a beating then I am.

To compare a kingfisher at nearly 5 tons with a 6mm thick hull to a 900-1400lb Lund with a 2mm thick hull is a bit of a stretch, they’re not built for the same conditions.

That's a total apples to oranges comparison as far as I'm concerned - not even the same type of vessel ... you're comparison isn't even close the way I look at it ....

- Lund's biggest boat is 22 feet (Baron) and the average boat on the coast starts at 24' and goes up into 26'-30' sizes commonly and many of them run 2 full sized outboards

- None of Lunds boats have hard tops - almost every boat on the coast has a hard top

- Lund boats are built to be towed behind a vehicle and launched - the coastal boats stay put for the most part of their lives - the tin is lighter because of it

If I was buying a 16-20' boat for the prairies and Kingfisher wouldn't even get a sniff from me - trust me I really was looking hard at them and they are simply not as good for the way I fish and use my boat. Others may disagree, but for a ski/fish and store my fishing stuff - the Lund was my best option.

Now if I lived on the coast - that's a different story - the Lund wouldn't get a sniff. Worthless on the coast.

Maybe we are saying the same thing here I guess.

[Coiloil37]

Originally Posted by EZM

That's a total apples to oranges comparison as far as I'm concerned - not even the same type of vessel ... you're comparison isn't even close the way I look at it ....

- Lund's biggest boat is 22 feet (Baron) and the average boat on the coast starts at 24' and goes up into 26'-30' sizes commonly and many of them run 2 full sized outboards

- None of Lunds boats have hard tops - almost every boat on the coast has a hard top

- Lund boats are built to be towed behind a vehicle and launched - the coastal boats stay put for the most part of their lives - the tin is lighter because of it

If I was buying a 16-20' boat for the prairies and Kingfisher wouldn't even get a sniff from me - trust me I really was looking hard at them and they are simply not as good for the way I fish and use my boat. Others may disagree, but for a ski/fish and store my fishing stuff - the Lund was my best option.

Now if I lived on the coast - that's a different story - the Lund wouldn't get a sniff. Worthless on the coast.

Maybe we are saying the same thing here I guess.

Perhaps you should go back to the first page and read it to understand why I wrote what I did. You got close with your last line but your rant makes me think you didn’t see the guys telling us how useless the Lund is because they aren’t used off our Pacific Northwest coast. Or how Hewes craft and kingfisher make a “better” boat then Lund.

[EZM]

Originally Posted by Coiloil37

Perhaps you should go back to the first page and read it to understand why I wrote what I did. You got close with your last line but your rant makes me think you didn’t see the guys telling us how useless the Lund is because they aren’t used off our Pacific Northwest coast. Or how Hewes craft and kingfisher make a “better” boat then Lund.

Yeah actually, should quoted the other contributor - my post was in support of what you were saying and adding to it - sorry - that was kinda awkward actually. lol.

[Coiloil37]

Originally Posted by EZM

Yeah actually, should quoted the other contributor - my post was in support of what you were saying and adding to it - sorry - that was kinda awkward actually. lol.

All good mate. I agree and I owned a Lund when I fished Alberta/sask and would again most likely if I moved back.
Now fishing the coast I own a 21’ glass boat and naturally want a bigger one but the wife gave me a budget so I’ll live with what I’ve got. In a couple more years I see a 30’ Boston whaler sitting out front with twin 250’s.