Tough news out of Red Deer today.

[raab]

This is why you don't send in social workers to deal with violent mental health cases. Job well done by the RCMP apprehending the offender without anyone else getting hurt.

[JDK71]

have they put a pic of this guy out yet

[NCC]

Originally Posted by walking buffalo

I could give a thousand reasons why a person would be justified in killing someone else.
Many of these I learned from AO members that have commented in this thread.


Careful you don't hail for the lynching of a man that didn't deserve it.

I’ll go out on a limb and say the guy with the machete and hammer was in the wrong.

[JDK71]

Originally Posted by NCC

I’ll go out on a limb and say the guy with the machete and hammer was in the wrong.

i was thinking the same

[Zip-in-Z]

Sylvan Lake NEWS Updated: 54-year-old man charged in connection with death of Red Deer doctor.








A 54-year-old Red Deer man has been charged with first-degree murder in connection with the death of a Red Deer doctor in his walk-in clinic on Monday.

Deng Mabiour has also been charged with assaulting a police officer and assault with a weapon. Another doctor at the clinic was also attacked and a responding police officer suffered minor injuries, said police.

Red Deer RCMP Supt. Gerald Grobmeier said it was a targeted attack and the the accused was known to his victim, Dr. Walter Reynolds, 45.

“This was not a random attack, and the first degree murder charge speaks to the premeditated nature of this incident,” said Supt. Gerald Grobmeier, who is in charge of Red Deer detachment.

“There were many witnesses and people who acted bravely during this assault, and we encourage anyone to reach out for support as these incidents can be traumatic and difficult to process.”

Reynolds was a well-liked and respected doctor and the married father of two young girls.

Red Deer Victim Services is available to anyone looking for support and can be reached by calling 403-306-2345, said RCMP.

Red Deer RCMP thanked the quick responses from witnesses at the clinic, Red Deer Emergency Services, Red Deer Transit and RCMP Major Crimes.

Mabiour is scheduled to appear in Red Deer Provincial Court on Wednesday.

Grobmeier said Mabiour was not known to them.

“We have no history from this individual,” said Grobmeier

More to come …

[CaberTosser]

Bob's mention of an Oxycodone (or similar) prescription bears consideration, I'd not considered the potential that a junkie might try to extort a prescription and get violent when turned down. Pharmacies are used to robbery attempts by junkies but are they doing it at Dr's offices now? That approach might seem less likely though, considering they'd then need to pay for the 'script.


Edit: I guess with articles mentioning this was targeted, that knocks out many avenues of speculation.

[Zip-in-Z]

Walter Reynolds Memorial Fund as of 1:20 pm Aug 11th.


https://www.gofundme.com/f/walter-re...=copy_link_all

[tirebob]

Honestly, I think I just need to believe there was some kind of mitigating circumstance that can at least explain why it happened. This kind of thing is just too horrendous to want to accept it was something trivial that set it off. Makes me sick to think about... Ugh

[Dean2]

I am WAY past tired of - "wait till we hear the whole story". We never hear the whole story unless it fits some political agenda. Walks like a Duck, Quacks like a Duck, pretty damn sure it is a Duck. Over sized black guy, hangs around 7-11, known to act nutz, enters Dr's office with Machete, and Hammer, pretty sure he wasn't there to protest a diagnosis or how his grand daughter was treated. Since we can't hang this scum, at least deport his butt back to where he came from.

[sns2]

Sad.

I'm guessing that the perp is schizophrenic. Time will tell.

Regardless of reason, I'd flip the switch if he were in the right chair.

Sent from my SM-A705W using Tapatalk

[Zip-in-Z]

Red Deer News




RCMP have laid charges, including first degree murder, against a 54-year-old male after yesterday’s homicide of a Red Deer physician at the Village Mall Walk-In Clinic.

Deng Mabiour of Red Deer faces the following charges:

· First degree murder
· Assault of a police officer
· Assault with weapon

Mabiour assaulted 45-year-old Walter Reynolds in the Village Mall Walk-In Clinic shortly after 11 a.m. on August 10. Reynolds was transported to hospital where he succumbed to his injuries.

“This was not a random attack, and the first degree murder charge speaks to the premeditated nature of this incident,” said Supt. Gerald Grobmeier, Officer in Charge of the Red Deer RCMP.
“There were many witnesses and people who acted bravely during this assault, and we encourage anyone to reach out for support as these incidents can be traumatic and difficult to process.”

Red Deer Victim Services is available to anyone looking for support and can be reached by calling 403-306-2345.

Red Deer RCMP wishes to thank the quick responses from witnesses at the clinic, The City of Red Deer Emergency Services, Red Deer Transit and RCMP Major Crimes.

Mabiour is scheduled to appear in Red Deer Provincial Court on August 12.

Red Deer RCMP
Royal Canadian Mounted Police in Alberta

[tirebob]

Originally Posted by Dean2

I am WAY past tired of - "wait till we hear the whole story". We never hear the whole story unless it fits some political agenda. Walks like a Duck, Quacks like a Duck, pretty damn sure it is a Duck. Over sized black guy, hangs around 7-11, known to act nutz, enters Dr's office with Machete, and Hammer, pretty sure he wasn't there to protest a diagnosis or how his grand daughter was treated. Since we can't hang this scum, at least deport his butt back to where he came from.

I don't actually disagree. I just have a hard time processing this kind of stuff. It is why I can't watch the news anymore. Too much stuff that makes me hate humans and I don't want to live my life being that person.

[MountainTi]

Originally Posted by sns2

Sad.

I'm guessing that the perp is schizophrenic. Time will tell.

Regardless of reason, I'd flip the switch if he were in the right chair.

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For me personally, a flick of the switch would be to merciful.
I'd go with long, drawn out, and excruciatingly painful to the point of being sadistic.....but that's just me

[JDK71]

i wonder if he is new to Canada?

[JDK71]

hang him high for all to see one . one could only wish

[Zip-in-Z]

An eye for an eye .... give him what he did to the Doc.

[Sooner]

Originally Posted by Zip-in-Z

An eye for an eye .... give him what he did to the Doc.

Yup, but a little slower and with a few more grazing hits. Just so he has more time to think how much it hurts.

[JDK71]

deport him

[Nikanit]

I know that clinic and its a rough place. All the druggies go there to try and get prescriptions. I have personally been there to witness these people screaming at staff & doctors when they failed to get narcotics. My own awesome doctor was threatened himself. The clinic is straight up the hill from Loaves and Fishes as well as the DT area, right across from Parkland mall, which has had it's own share of violent crimes. I wish they would move the Loaves to the faaaar south side of town. We also have a bottle depot right by too that sees a LOT of people from the rougher side of life...COSMOS

[Cement Bench]

was not a random attack, wait for the reason my friends

Originally Posted by sns2

Sad.

I'm guessing that the perp is schizophrenic. Time will tell.

Regardless of reason, I'd flip the switch if he were in the right chair.

Sent from my SM-A705W using Tapatalk

Originally Posted by tirebob

Honestly, I think I just need to believe there was some kind of mitigating circumstance that can at least explain why it happened. This kind of thing is just too horrendous to want to accept it was something trivial that set it off. Makes me sick to think about... Ugh

Originally Posted by CaberTosser

Bob's mention of an Oxycodone (or similar) prescription bears consideration, I'd not considered the potential that a junkie might try to extort a prescription and get violent when turned down. Pharmacies are used to robbery attempts by junkies but are they doing it at Dr's offices now? That approach might seem less likely though, considering they'd then need to pay for the 'script.


Edit: I guess with articles mentioning this was targeted, that knocks out many avenues of speculation.

[W921]

It just seems to keep getting worse. More bad things,evil or whatever you want to call it.
Are we getting worse? Am I just remembering years ago better than what it was?
Ever notice when we meet a stranger we just assume they are normal. I wonder why I do this? I probable shouldn't.
If you want to hurt and kill people your messed up in the head. If I accidentally hurt someone it hurts me more than it does them.
Just seems like more mental illness now a days?

[CBintheNorth]

Those poor little girls. My heart goes out to them and his widow. Absolutely awful.

[Dean2]

Originally Posted by Cement Bench

was not a random attack, wait for the reason my friends

So the scum knew the doctor, was maybe even a patient. So he didn't just walk in off the street and kill the first guy he saw. How does that improve a single friggin thing. What possible reason for a targeted killing could improve, justify or even mitigate this situation.

[JDK71]

Originally Posted by Dean2

So the scum knew the doctor, was maybe even a patient. So he didn't just walk in off the street and kill the first guy he saw. How does that improve a single friggin thing. What possible reason for a targeted killing could improve, justify or even mitigate this situation.

you are 100% right Dean

[WinefredCommander]

Red Deer is having quite the year... Canada needs the death penalty back.

[Bigwoodsman]

Originally Posted by Dean2

I am WAY past tired of - "wait till we hear the whole story". We never hear the whole story unless it fits some political agenda. Walks like a Duck, Quacks like a Duck, pretty damn sure it is a Duck. Over sized black guy, hangs around 7-11, known to act nutz, enters Dr's office with Machete, and Hammer, pretty sure he wasn't there to protest a diagnosis or how his grand daughter was treated. Since we can't hang this scum, at least deport his butt back to where he came from.

X1,000,000.

Send him to the Justin Trudeau residence for safe keeping! Or send him to our Justice Minister for rehab. ENOUGH already!

BW

[1899b]

Originally Posted by tirebob

This is true... It is easy to be cock-sure that he is a horrific human based on the surface of these reports, but I wonder what everyones reactions would have been if say the guy found out the doc was molesting his grand-daughter or something.

I by no means am saying this happened and he just may be an evil monster but not a single one of us knows what actually happened so is it not better to wait until we know what's up before demanding his lynching? I dunno... Just saying.

Yup or maybe he was being very very unprofessional with the perps wife. Who knows. Lots of unscrupulous doctors have been charged and convicted over the years. Two sides to every story...

[CaberTosser]

Originally Posted by 1899b

Yup or maybe he was being very very unprofessional with the perps wife. Who knows. Lots of unscrupulous doctors have been charged and convicted over the years. Two sides to every story...

More likely would be the perp reacting with anger if his wife miscarried and he blamed the Dr; or if the Dr informed him that he failed a fertility test or something else that he didn't want to hear. I've witnessed how some African-raised men react to perceived slights to their masculinity, some can be completely irrational. Regardless of what drove the fellow to his sinister act, he shouldn't be drawing breath.

[Cement Bench]

Originally Posted by Dean2

So the scum knew the doctor, was maybe even a patient. So he didn't just walk in off the street and kill the first guy he saw. How does that improve a single friggin thing. What possible reason for a targeted killing could improve, justify or even mitigate this situation.

Originally Posted by JDK71

you are 100% right Dean

once again it was not random he was attacked because of .........

can’t say just yet but please don’t jump to conclusions

[WayneChristie]

If someone attacks police with a weapon they shouldnt be breathing at the end of the day. Especially if they have just murdered someone!