Elk Bullets

[Rio56]

Originally Posted by Wildcat93

Not sure with the .338 but my 300 WM is getting 3013 fps with 180 gr bullets, .012 off the lands and 78.5 gr of H1000. 2969 fps with 78 gr. I never tried 200 gr yet.

Nice stuff ..
Lot's are aging and can't handle recoil ... so , they have many stories of little wiennies (hot dogs ) shooting big stuff ..
Does a .277 cal to a .308 make a diff or even better yet
.264 to .308 ??
just asking , with the same bullet
TTSX

[Pathfinder76]

You guys need more experience. This is stupid.

[Rio56]

Originally Posted by Pathfinder76

You guys need more experience. This is stupid.

truth of the matter is you have only shot 2 elk . the rest is others and 24hr camp ...
so who is stupid ?

.264 vs .308 ??
no answer

[Pathfinder76]

Spruster, You are the one asking questions, not me.

This old man will be out shooting an 8lb 338 in the morning. You are welcome to join me.

[Rio56]

I would love to join you
Mr Chuck
You can't answer my questions

[birdseye]

I like Nosler either partition or accubond.I have a .375Cal 260gr Accubonds running at 3265 ish and a 300gr running over 3000fps, Both are absolute hammer's on everything

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by Rio56

I would love to join you
Mr Chuck
You can't answer my questions

What is the question?

[obsessed1]

I think the question is does bullet diameter make a difference...
In my experience it does. To a degree. Does that mean a 264 wont kill as well as a 308? Not at all, but IME its a combination of speed, weight and frontal diameter. I am not against using light for caliber...my wife and kids have shot quite a few cow elk with 243 even at further ranges but my experience says the dramatic effect on game is much less with the smaller calibers. Frontal diameter does add to the visual effect on game. The larger it is the more dramatic, but this is only one aspect of killing and in no way means a smaller caliber cant get it done... I do know this from personal experience i wouldnt choose a small caliberfor bull elk or bull moose if i could go bigger. The combo of frontal diameter weight and speed does give slight advantages especially on steep angles heavy bone and dense muscles. Its an incremental difference but it is there.

[catnthehat]

I was taught that you cannot have too much of one thing without balance when it comes to stuff like bullets, cartridges and firearms.
bullets need to be able to withstand the velocity they are pushed to, and must perform to the expectations of terminal impact on an animal.

To that end, ti doesn't matter so much what bullet or cartridge case is used an long as both balance each other out, and that is up to the user to decide how they are going to make the adjustment to make that happen.
Cat

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by Rio56

I would love to join you
Mr Chuck
You can't answer my questions

You didn’t show up. Showing up, and shooting, answers all kinds of questions.

[Rio56]

good posts from
Obsessed1 and catnthehat
I sometime's have trouble putting my thoughts into words ..

the larger cal or frontal area is a advantage for large game and front shoulder shots .. all with the same bullet design
Pathfinder76 is 100 % right in the diff of a big bull and a cow elk ..
The last bull I shot was huge , not sure but only guessing at over 800 lbs live weight ..but shot at 90 yards
Does 200 fps make a diff in same cal with heavier boolit , I think so ..
One thing to think of is the 270 at .277 and the 7 at .284 vs a .308 for elk
The 270 might be a getting old cartridge and really should't be .. so for elk bullets the caliber does matter ..
.277
.284
so little diff
now a
.308
for large bulls and moose the advantage to the bigger hole
Just my thoughts and observations
I would never use a 243 or 6.5 on elk and expect to recover where I hunt ..
Again my personel

[Wildcat93]

Originally Posted by Rio56

Nice stuff ..
Lot's are aging and can't handle recoil ... so , they have many stories of little wiennies (hot dogs ) shooting big stuff ..
Does a .277 cal to a .308 make a diff or even better yet
.264 to .308 ??
just asking , with the same bullet
TTSX

For hunting purposes, I think it doesn’t matter that much. It all depends on the one squeezing the trigger if he/she do his/her part.

[Salavee]

If a 7mm is that much better than a .270 you can change that 270 in a hurry. Just change the .277 to metric (7.2 mm).

[X-Treme]

Originally Posted by Salavee

If a 7mm is that much better than a .270 you can change that 270 in a hurry. Just change the .277 to metric (7.2 mm).

Hmmmm. Weird. My math (and Googles) comes out to 7.036mm.

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by X-Treme

Hmmmm. Weird. My math (and Googles) comes out to 7.036mm.

Several different numbers getting batted around .
Bore diameter, lands, grooves, bullet diameter.
Cat