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Old 01-14-2022, 05:14 PM
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Why doesn't matter, for every opinion there is a counter opinion .
There are also lots who think the 6.5 Creedmoor is superior to the .303 British for killing deer, but they can't prove it either.
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Well, anyone who doubts the 270 being effective vs deer is pretty much working against 97 yrs of history and on heavy opiates so it'd be a short discussion I guess. I have to admit being taken somewhat aback by the suggestion to be honest because there would be zero suggesting it isnt. There's opinions and then there's......

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Old 01-14-2022, 06:06 PM
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Well, anyone who doubts the 270 being effective vs deer is pretty much working against 97 yrs of history and on heavy opiates so it'd be a short discussion I guess. I have to admit being taken somewhat aback by the suggestion to be honest because there would be zero suggesting it isnt. There's opinions and then there's......

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I seem to remember a fella named Keith that considered the 270 "a pretty good coyote cartridge" his words not mine
Lots of people don't consider the 6.5 Creedmoor a decent deer round either......
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Old 01-14-2022, 06:30 PM
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Only shoot targets with my 22-250. Bullets will go through a 3/8 piece of flat iron. If that isn't enough I'm not sure what is.
Well, hell yes! Good one man. Made me smile.
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Old 01-14-2022, 07:04 PM
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I seem to remember a fella named Keith that considered the 270 "a pretty good coyote cartridge" his words not mine
Lots of people don't consider the 6.5 Creedmoor a decent deer round either......
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Elmer kinda had his own mandate and was obviously on said heavy opiates at the time. Proof that a number of the old timers, some revered, often had no clue.

I believe Elmer, when he could actually put 2 words together that made sense also told of his 600-yard shot on a mule deer with his .44 Magnum. He was also a well noted O'Connor hater.

Short story. He was wrong. And that's not even an opinion.

Wonder how Elmer would have felt about the 22-250/wolf conversation. Probably that the 22-250 is a "pretty good sparrow cartridge."
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Old 01-14-2022, 07:46 PM
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One great thing about having a 270 win while lake hunting is if you forget your anchor ,there great for that .

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Old 01-14-2022, 08:26 PM
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Jack O'Conner loved the 270 and wrote a lot about it.
But then again, he was a p*sstank.
Another way to show that you are under the influence or just plain ignorant is to run down Elmer Keith on a gun forum.
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Old 01-14-2022, 09:31 PM
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Well, anyone who doubts the 270 being effective vs deer is pretty much working against 97 yrs of history and on heavy opiates so it'd be a short discussion I guess. I have to admit being taken somewhat aback by the suggestion to be honest because there would be zero suggesting it isnt. There's opinions and then there's......

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So, if age is the requirement to be a great wolf cartridge the the 6.5x55 beats the .270 by a few decades so I guess it is the only cartridge that should even be considered?

If I only had a 22-250 and a wolf stepped out I wouldn't think twice. actually if I had my .204 I would still make the same call. But some like recoil cause it is like wearing white sunglasses I guess.
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15 lbs of recoil, roughly double that of a .243, is generally accepted as the cut off point for some to develop a flinch. If its going to happen.
thanks 270 I didn't know that. Just going from personal experience on my behalf. significant improvement on accuracy when I dropped to a .243.
Sure do miss the punch that 270 wsm has. I now understand thank you for the info. Appreciate ya.
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Don’t mean this as a slight against any one person, but this is possibly the most stupid argument on AO that I can ever recall. Shoot whatever the hell you want within the bounds of the law. Go outside fellas. It has warmed up nicely.
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While headed home after work I come up on a pack of 5 wolves running down a lease road at 4am. I hit the gas and hit the rear one dead centre at 65kmh. Rolled right over him with a couple thumps. My choice of weapon at the time was a 2010 Dodge megacab 2500 diesel. I stopped to pick it up an low and behold he up and takes off. Looked again the next morning. Tracked him for a mile and a half. Never found him. A week later while in the same area I came across a black wolf running across a clear cut in the same area. A running shot at 150 yards with my 22-250 flattened him between lunges. So my choice is definitely 22-250 now.
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Old 01-15-2022, 01:32 PM
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Don’t mean this as a slight against any one person, but this is possibly the most stupid argument on AO that I can ever recall. Shoot whatever the hell you want within the bounds of the law. Go outside fellas. It has warmed up nicely.
I don't even think it makes top 10 lol
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While headed home after work I come up on a pack of 5 wolves running down a lease road at 4am. I hit the gas and hit the rear one dead centre at 65kmh. Rolled right over him with a couple thumps. My choice of weapon at the time was a 2010 Dodge megacab 2500 diesel. I stopped to pick it up an low and behold he up and takes off. Looked again the next morning. Tracked him for a mile and a half. Never found him. A week later while in the same area I came across a black wolf running across a clear cut in the same area. A running shot at 150 yards with my 22-250 flattened him between lunges. So my choice is definitely 22-250 now.
Would have had a better chance killing it with a 3500. Or better yet a 5500
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Well after reading this thread I now know that varmint grenades won't go through a water bottle.
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While headed home after work I come up on a pack of 5 wolves running down a lease road at 4am. I hit the gas and hit the rear one dead centre at 65kmh. Rolled right over him with a couple thumps. My choice of weapon at the time was a 2010 Dodge megacab 2500 diesel. I stopped to pick it up an low and behold he up and takes off. Looked again the next morning. Tracked him for a mile and a half. Never found him. A week later while in the same area I came across a black wolf running across a clear cut in the same area. A running shot at 150 yards with my 22-250 flattened him between lunges. So my choice is definitely 22-250 now.
That’s cruel man! I understand if it was Turd but not a poor doggy!
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While headed home after work I come up on a pack of 5 wolves running down a lease road at 4am. I hit the gas and hit the rear one dead centre at 65kmh. Rolled right over him with a couple thumps. My choice of weapon at the time was a 2010 Dodge megacab 2500 diesel. I stopped to pick it up an low and behold he up and takes off. Looked again the next morning. Tracked him for a mile and a half. Never found him. A week later while in the same area I came across a black wolf running across a clear cut in the same area. A running shot at 150 yards with my 22-250 flattened him between lunges. So my choice is definitely 22-250 now.
Read Alberta hunting regulations. General Prohibitions ...Rule # 2
Sportsman do not let animals die a slow painful death.........TOTAL BS
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While headed home after work I come up on a pack of 5 wolves running down a lease road at 4am. I hit the gas and hit the rear one dead centre at 65kmh. Rolled right over him with a couple thumps. My choice of weapon at the time was a 2010 Dodge megacab 2500 diesel. I stopped to pick it up an low and behold he up and takes off. Looked again the next morning. Tracked him for a mile and a half. Never found him. A week later while in the same area I came across a black wolf running across a clear cut in the same area. A running shot at 150 yards with my 22-250 flattened him between lunges. So my choice is definitely 22-250 now.
If ya would have smoked him with a black dually 3500 with a pool noodle hanging out the window that wolf wouldn’t have stood a chance of getting back up….
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Read Alberta hunting regulations. General Prohibitions ...Rule # 2
Sportsman do not let animals die a slow painful death.........TOTAL BS
People don't read those, had a new hunter this year tell me “I didn’t read the regs there are to many adds I didn’t think they where real” No wonder some people people think game have harder scapulas than pistol rated body armour or 3/8 mild steel plates. We live in the times of alternative facts
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Old 01-17-2022, 02:04 PM
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Jack O'Conner loved the 270 and wrote a lot about it.
But then again, he was a p*sstank.
Another way to show that you are under the influence or just plain ignorant is to run down Elmer Keith on a gun forum.

Jack was a university English and journalism professor that never rose to the baiting coming from Keith. Keith despised him. Likely because O'Connor was "well read," well respected, and didn't require a big bore to tip over animals.

Keith was a champion of the large bore wildcats, in particular the .33 versions. Stating the .270 was and is a coyote rifle at best says a lot about him.

Could always start a poll and see how many agree with his 270 thoughts if you're so inclined. Pretty sure its a hunting and firearms discussion site too no?
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So, if age is the requirement to be a great wolf cartridge the the 6.5x55 beats the .270 by a few decades so I guess it is the only cartridge that should even be considered?

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No clue where you picked up on me saying the 270 is a great wolf cartridge, the best cartridge for anything, or that origin dates have anything to do with the conversation.

I was simply responding, and chuckling, about it being suitable for nothing but coyotes.
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One great thing about having a 270 win while lake hunting is if you forget your anchor ,there great for that .

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Never hunted a lake so no idea. Deer, moose, elk, bear, etc but never a lake.

Thanks for the remarkable insight tho.
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Don’t mean this as a slight against any one person, but this is possibly the most stupid argument on AO that I can ever recall. Shoot whatever the hell you want within the bounds of the law. Go outside fellas. It has warmed up nicely.
you forgot the covid thread

back to the post...22-250 will kill a dam wolf period...better than a flinch and a miss on a braked 340 Weatherby...
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I’ve killed a lot of wolves at many different ranges with my 22-250 Varmint with 55gr. Have never had a wounded get away. Great gun, cheap ammo.
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back to the post...22-250 will kill a dam wolf period...better than a flinch and a miss on a braked 340 Weatherby...
A little more bench time may cure you of that flinch
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I’ve killed a lot of wolves at many different ranges with my 22-250 Varmint with 55gr. Have never had a wounded get away. Great gun, cheap ammo.
x2 Like I said earlier I used a 220 swift ,35 grains of varget 55 grain bullet and did very well. On a frozen lake the wind now buggers me up for my POI after a certain range so I go to a bit heaver cartridge . Hunting ON and I mean ON a lake can be challenge specially if they get the jump on me.

Enjoy your hunts guys and gals .

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x2 Like I said earlier I used a 220 swift ,35 grains of varget 55 grain bullet and did very well. On a frozen lake the wind now buggers me up for my POI after a certain range so I go to a bit heaver cartridge . Hunting ON and I mean ON a lake can be challenge specially if they get the jump on me.

Enjoy your hunts guys and gals .

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A little more bench time may cure you of that flinch

Won’t let me cuz I got a brake on it seems they can’t handle it either.


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Won’t let me cuz I got a brake on it seems they can’t handle it either.


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Won’t let me cuz I got a brake on it seems they can’t handle it either.


Wasn’t there another all mighty cartridge thread that could out do all?


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One of the biggest wolves I killed was with a 100 grain montec broadhead…
Do you think a 125 grain would’ve been better?
Don’t matter what your shooting them with as long as your shooting them.
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